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Posted - 2014.06.06 12:39:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:
Additional concern:
The Caldari scout has unnecessarily and obscenely high shield recharge rate, combined with extremely short shield recharge delays. These have to be reduced, or else my proposed changes will lead to further imbalanced with the Caldari scout.
What is 200, 300, or 400 Shields to an AR, ScR, LR, Shotgun or Sniper Rifle?
An effective CalScout has no room for Rechargers, Regulators or stacked Extenders.
Similarly, he has no room for Biotics, Armor or Damps.
His Highs are committed to Precision and his Lows are committed to Range.
But you want to bone him just in case?
If your nerf is aimed at "Slayers" HP-tanking CalScouts, simply offer them better Assault Frames.
Even so, what is 400 Shields to an AR, ScR, LR, Shotgun or Sniper Rifle?
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.06.06 13:12:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:
A. Running a suit set up like a mobile radar unit is less of an asset than you think.
B. With the advent of Cloaks, why are you trying to go toe-to-toe with people?
A. Squad Recon is the best use of CalScout; do your job and leave slaying to suits optimized for it.
B. At ~250HP, I try my level best to avoid people who can insta-gib me (which is pretty much everyone).
Mobius Wyvern wrote:
I don't want to sound like I'm condoning ScoutShotgun (which pisses me off to no end), but the idea of a Scout suit is to use your stealthiness as an asset to move around the battlefield and get kills.
I use 2 Shield Extenders, 2 Precision Enhancers, 1 Range Amplifier, and 1 Profile Dampener along with a PRO Cloak Field.
Works just fine for me.
Your build isn't bad for a pub fit, but it wouldn't hold up well against Min/Maxers in PC.
21 dB (cloak active) should get around everything except a GalLogi or 3+ Precision CalScout.
* Good for Pubs (unless you're up against proto stompers)
* Bad for PC
Instead of being "OK" as hunting and "OK" at hiding, you could be excellent at one or the other.
* Optimize your CalScout for hunting; get a squad and stick with them.
* Switch out for your GalScout when the mission calls for sneaking / infiltration.
PS: Pardon the alt (45M SP Scout)
Shoot scout with yes...
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Posted - 2014.06.06 13:16:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:
A. Running a suit set up like a mobile radar unit is less of an asset than you think.
B. With the advent of Cloaks, why are you trying to go toe-to-toe with people?
A. Squad Recon is the best use of CalScout; do your job and leave slaying to suits optimized for it. You mean the Cal Scout isn't optimized for combat? 
It won't be once Rattati fixes Assault frames :-)
Shoot scout with yes...
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Posted - 2014.06.06 17:50:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:
One specific sidebar on the above, if the Cal is to be heavily pushed into an eWar primary role so much so that it's combat potential is actively reduced then those passive scans will need to have earnings (i.e. WP) attached to them somehow.
It's bad practice to attach a suits primary role to something which they can't break even doing (let alone something which they do not get earnings for at all).
o7
My CalScout Recon fits generate decent WP returns thru Active Scanners assists.
I'm incredibly squishy, but I can see far enough out to avoid insta-gib most of the time. I've little need for cloak (too easily scanned) so I drop it for a 2nd active scanner. With two active scanners, I paint hostiles fairly frequently and am able to augment my oft unreliable shared passives. My role isn't particularly glorious, but it offers a substantial boost to my squad's effectiveness.
I am overwatch. I use a Rail, MagSec or K.Tac Sniper Rifle to soften / kill-steal hostiles.
I play to my strengths and rely on my squad; I try avoid contact as best I can; when I err I die.
Snipers, other CalScouts and GalScouts are my constant counter.
If and when I make a mistake, any hostile in my proximity can kill me.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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