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maluble
Mop Squad
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:38:00 -
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So I log in and all my fittings are invalid saying I am using too much pg/cpu. If this is not a mistake then I am done with this game. This has been the straw that broke the camels back, wtf ccp? Its a significant change too 7 pg short of my original suit set up is ridiculous. I seriously hope bad things happen to people at ccp and anyone who has profited off this game. |
Sum1ne Else
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1162
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:39:00 -
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Check the notes..armour plates have changed in terms of PG/CPU
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
432
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:40:00 -
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It's not random. The hotfix changes were announced, discussed, dated and spreadsheet almost a month ago.
Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
7862
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:42:00 -
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We've done a pass on PG/CPU requirements for armor modules. You will need to make some changes to your fittings.
CCP Logibro // Patron Saint of Logistics // Distributor of Nanites
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KILLER 20965
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
24
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:43:00 -
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Thats ******* bullshit... I spent hours working on a few fittings and now they are useless...
E-5
I once owned a district
Yes I run logi, got a problem?
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maluble
Mop Squad
27
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:44:00 -
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Thats hilarious I though you guys were done ruining your game go mess up legion before it has a chance to be good. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
13992
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:46:00 -
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The only way you're 7 PG over what your previous fit was would be if you were stacking a load of basic plates.
The fitting requirements were, quite rightly, increased.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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maluble
Mop Squad
27
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:46:00 -
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I but blueprint plates and you change them now so they are garbage,similar to breech of contract. I want my money back. Can you devs not see how that is wrong? |
Sum1ne Else
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1162
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:47:00 -
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maluble wrote:Thats hilarious I though you guys were done ruining your game go mess up legion before it has a chance to be good.
It was needed to make other plates viable. Who runs reactive/fero plates pre hotfix alpha?..the minority..now they are viable and cannot wait to start adding other plates onto my suits. Stacking armour modules will now be an even bigger compromise especially with the movement penalty. Good job CCP
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maluble
Mop Squad
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:49:00 -
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Sum1 other plates are not viable regardless. |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
13996
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:50:00 -
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They're more viable than they were, though.
Basic plates needing such a tiny amount of resources was broken. I'm glad they fixed it.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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maluble
Mop Squad
28
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:51:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:We've done a pass on PG/CPU requirements for armor modules. You will need to make some changes to your fittings.
These kind of changes so late in game are unacceptable, you should keep this in mind before you start on another fps. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
13996
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:53:00 -
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maluble wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:We've done a pass on PG/CPU requirements for armor modules. You will need to make some changes to your fittings. These kind of changes so late in game are unacceptable, you should keep this in mind before you start on another fps.
It's perfectly acceptable for balance changes at any point in a game's lifetime, especially when they're fixing something that was obviously broken.
Stacking basic plates for minimal resource costs was broken. It would take you 4 PG to fit four previously, and that'd give you a solid tank. 4 PG for an entirely solid tank? It's a good thing that was fixed.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
988
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:53:00 -
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maluble wrote:So I log in and all my fittings are invalid saying I am using too much pg/cpu. If this is not a mistake then I am done with this game. This has been the straw that broke the camels back, wtf ccp? Its a significant change too 7 pg short of my original suit set up is ridiculous. I seriously hope bad things happen to people at ccp and anyone who has profited off this game.
Dude, this was discussed extensively.
They asked for input and showed us what the proposed changes would be in a spreadsheet. Then they posted what the changes would be a week or ten days before the patch was implemented.
This wasn't a surprise or stealth patch.
Let the changes settle in. See how it goes.
Hopefully they will go through the same process of consultation. Then they will likely make further balance tweaks.
The way they are going now seems to be a very positive change from the way they were doing things for the past year. For some unfathomable reason they didn't do this earlier.
Munch
Anyone who buys AUR now is a fool.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
3293
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:56:00 -
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KILLER 20965 wrote:Thats ******* bullshit... I spent hours working on a few fittings and now they are useless...
They will be looking into CPU/PG adjustments for suits in hotfix beta.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
Covert Intervention
541
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Posted - 2014.06.04 14:51:00 -
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Lol, I'm loving the QQ
-Sincerely
--The Dual Swarm Commando
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
992
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:19:00 -
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OP is dumb, ignore this thread
Best Idea For Legion
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WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
326
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:23:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:OP is dumb, ignore this thread
Agreed, CCP can't hotfix stupid. |
D3LTA Blitzkrieg II
0uter.Heaven
107
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:24:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:OP is dumb, ignore this thread Agreed, CCP can't hotfix stupid.
aha! So this is where whataguy hangs out in the morning. |
Miokai Zahou
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
286
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:37:00 -
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the tears in this thread... just wow.
Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
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Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
733
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:39:00 -
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maluble wrote:I bought blueprint plates and you change them now so they are garbage,similar to breech of contract. I want my money back. Can you devs not see how that is wrong?
I'm dying with laughter at how incompetent some people are... I haven't really been playing the game the last month, nor have I been on the forums and I STILL KNEW about the hotfix updates. You people need to read more..
Newb
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headbust
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
27
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:45:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:KILLER 20965 wrote:Thats ******* bullshit... I spent hours working on a few fittings and now they are useless... They will be looking into CPU/PG adjustments for suits in hotfix bravo.
hahahahahahahaha i know this guy lol but seriously guy or gal that is mad there was a long discussion on this hotfix
a scout = once you turn your back on me you'll never be able to look back
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
General Tso's Alliance
984
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:49:00 -
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maluble wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:We've done a pass on PG/CPU requirements for armor modules. You will need to make some changes to your fittings. These kind of changes so late in game are unacceptable, you should keep this in mind before you start on another fps.
Dude shut up and go home.
Nuff said.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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RayRay James
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
164
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:49:00 -
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People complain the game balance is broken.
CCP announces fixes, discussed fixes with the community, and impliments the fixes
People are mad they have to change things.
You can please some of the people, all of the time. You can please all of the people, some of the time. You can never please all of the people all of the time. |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
1784
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Posted - 2014.06.04 16:17:00 -
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Well, at least there is basically a consensus that the OP is QQing because he abused easily fit plates, that the majority of people seem to realize needed changing.
I think that speaks volumes to how needed this change was.
And good riddance to FOTM chasers who abuse broken balance mechanics. This game will be better off.
The REAL Internet King
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Byozuma Kegawa
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
272
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Posted - 2014.06.04 16:52:00 -
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I logged on this morning to one, 1, as in single, fit being 2 points overbudget. Removed the one, 1, as in single, grenade and taa~daa! Fixed. Life moves on. By the way, it was my pub-match fit that costs me no isk to field. At all. Ever. The grenade was no loss. Adapt and move on or be gone. The game would be a much richer experience without people that can't roll with the punches, especially punches that are telegraphed by weeks. |
Hoover Damn
H.A.R.V.E.S.T.
Lokun Listamenn
121
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Posted - 2014.06.04 16:55:00 -
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A simpler fix would've been to modify the fitting requirements for the other plates and/or the armour bonus for the standard plates.
"Any job worth doing with a laser is worth doing with many, many lasers." - Unknown
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3361
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Posted - 2014.06.04 16:55:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Well, at least there is basically a consensus that the OP is QQing because he abused easily fit plates, that the majority of people seem to realize needed changing.
I think that speaks volumes to how needed this change was.
And good riddance to FOTM chasers who abuse broken balance mechanics. This game will be better off.
I actually just switched one of my plates to an enhanced Ferroscale. Seems almost pointless on my Amarr suit, but I'm going to give it a go.
Pity they give such pathetic HP.
BlowoutForCPM
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
1953
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Posted - 2014.06.04 17:09:00 -
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THISS! |
fragmentedhackslash
Last VenDetta.
301
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Posted - 2014.06.04 17:25:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Well, at least there is basically a consensus that the OP is QQing because he abused easily fit plates, that the majority of people seem to realize needed changing.
I think that speaks volumes to how needed this change was.
And good riddance to FOTM chasers who abuse broken balance mechanics. This game will be better off.
Now to work on the other stuffz...
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2193705#post2193705
Can I just add I have seen a responce from the community, having CCP's back, standing up for them very forceably sometimes as well, when they are doing the right thing, **** the wider community off and you have hell to pay, sometimes, just sometimes it it aimed at CCP that's all.
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
304
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Posted - 2014.06.04 17:26:00 -
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maluble wrote:Sum1 other plates are not viable regardless.
^^ You are totally correct. The change to plates was generally pointless. Decrease in CPU costs across all plates--cuz plates use so much CPU vs PG, right?  --plus an increase to the PG cost of basic plates.
And don't forget that massive improvement to reppers. Because, you know, CCP's plan was to make reactive plates viable. By reducing their PG/CPU costs. Instead of increasing their repping and EHP slightly, so they can compete with plates+repper(s). |
CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
305
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Posted - 2014.06.04 17:30:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:OP is dumb, ignore this thread Agreed, CCP can't hotfix stupid.
While my feathers aren't personally ruffled over the prospect at having to tweak a couple fitting, I do think that CCP's "rebalancing" of armor/reppers is ret@rded at best.
RayRay James wrote:People complain the game balance is broken.
CCP announces fixes, discussed fixes with the community, and impliments the fixes
People are mad they have to change things.
Yeah, but it seems to me that a lot of folks have drank the Kool Aid. Don't forget--it hasn't even been a month since FanFest. CCP's method of interacting with the Dust community is summarized very well here.
The fact that they changed a few things is sort of irrelevant to people (such as myself) that believe 1) CCP mostly "fixed" the wrong things and 2) the things that needed fixing were "fixed" in dumb@ss ways. |
Scheneighnay McBob
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
5154
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Posted - 2014.06.04 17:43:00 -
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ALL of you fittings?
How brick-tanked exactly are your fits?
When I logged in, only 1 or 2 were invalid due to the change.
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
192
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Posted - 2014.06.04 17:53:00 -
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Three days ago I skilled into plates so I could stack three militia plates on a gal medic starter and still fit a duvolle. All I had to do was switch one mlt for a basic and Yahoo! Then I read the hotfix notes and find out that in two days I can't do that anymore. I enjoyed my new fit for the two days.
Today I log in to see my new fits invalid.
Did I cry? No. I spent the SP to bring Dropsuit Eng to 5 and AR Opt to 1.
Yahooo!
And now I'm wondering what I can squeeze out of reactive and ferroscale.
Bring on assault suit hotfix cause I got more SP to spend!!!!
AKA - StarVenger
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RayRay James
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
166
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Posted - 2014.06.04 18:45:00 -
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CRNWLLC wrote:
The fact that they changed a few things is sort of irrelevant to people (such as myself) that believe 1) CCP mostly "fixed" the wrong things and 2) the things that needed fixing were "fixed" in dumb@ss ways.
I don't agree with a lot of business things CCP has done recently, AT ALL. That being said, I still mostly enjoy playing and most the time don't see the same problems others do but isn't that why the opened it up for discussion?
Your two points are, in all fairness, opinions. Fixing the wrong things, or fixing the right things wrong are what has been discussed for the past month and (mostly) settled between the community and CCP
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gauntlet44 LbowDeep
Heaven84 Devils
General Tso's Alliance
53
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Posted - 2014.06.04 19:01:00 -
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Sum1ne Else wrote:maluble wrote:Thats hilarious I though you guys were done ruining your game go mess up legion before it has a chance to be good. It was needed to make other plates viable. Who runs reactive/fero plates pre hotfix alpha?..the minority..now they are viable and cannot wait to start adding other plates onto my suits. Stacking armour modules will now be an even bigger compromise especially with the movement penalty. Good job CCP
i second this
Absorb what is useful,
discard what is not,
make it uniquely your own........ Bruce Lee
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Pvt Numnutz
Watchdoge Explosives
1360
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Posted - 2014.06.04 19:04:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:ALL of you fittings?
How brick-tanked exactly are your fits?
When I logged in, only 1 or 2 were invalid due to the change.
He's a brick, duna na na, tank du na na |
Shiruba Ryou
274
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Posted - 2014.06.04 19:29:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:ALL of you fittings?
How brick-tanked exactly are your fits?
When I logged in, only 1 or 2 were invalid due to the change. He's a brick, duna na na, tank du na na
Ok, I lol'd.
"Not to worry. The cards say you loved it."
- Ryoutoshi
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Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
254
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Posted - 2014.06.04 22:08:00 -
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maluble wrote:So I log in and all my fittings are invalid saying I am using too much pg/cpu. If this is not a mistake then I am done with this game. This has been the straw that broke the camels back, wtf ccp? Its a significant change too 7 pg short of my original suit set up is ridiculous. I seriously hope bad things happen to people at ccp and anyone who has profited off this game.
Nice to hear from you. |
castba
Penguin's March
467
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Posted - 2014.06.05 01:00:00 -
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KILLER 20965 wrote:Thats ******* bullshit... I spent hours working on a few fittings and now they are useless...
Sarcasm I presume?
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Vaux Karn
The Mercenary Collective
94
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Posted - 2014.06.05 02:05:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:OP is dumb, ignore this thread Agreed, CCP can't hotfix stupid.
Also...no hotfix for the delicious QQ tears that this thread is full of...mmmmmmm...tasty... |
Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
9126
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Posted - 2014.06.05 02:08:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The only way you're 7 PG over what your previous fit was would be if you were stacking a load of basic plates.
The fitting requirements were, quite rightly, increased.
Not only that, but upgrading your Engineering Skills will allow you to use the fitting again.
Amarrians would prefer you be faithful. I'd rather you be logical.
Your friendly neighborhood Swarm Scrub.
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jaksol JAK darnson
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.06.09 01:53:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:We've done a pass on PG/CPU requirements for armor modules. You will need to make some changes to your fittings.
yeah that hurt a lot all my suit are weaker
"Sacrifice is a choice you make. Loss is a choice made for you."
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10227
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Posted - 2014.06.09 04:09:00 -
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This thread
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10227
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Posted - 2014.06.09 04:11:00 -
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Also, ferroscales and repairers fo' life.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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THE-C-O-B-R-A
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
85
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Posted - 2014.08.02 15:14:00 -
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Not only are you a THIEF but your a CRYBABY as well, looks good on ya mal. go play C.O.D. little girl.
BTW... how's the Slop Squad doing? let me guess, Kae Gee took the money and ran didn't he? LMAO |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1167
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Posted - 2014.08.02 15:19:00 -
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Alldin Kan has joined the battle!
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THE-C-O-B-R-A
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
85
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Posted - 2014.08.03 00:48:00 -
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glad to have you back killer, you have been missed |
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