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maluble
Mop Squad
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:38:00 -
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So I log in and all my fittings are invalid saying I am using too much pg/cpu. If this is not a mistake then I am done with this game. This has been the straw that broke the camels back, wtf ccp? Its a significant change too 7 pg short of my original suit set up is ridiculous. I seriously hope bad things happen to people at ccp and anyone who has profited off this game. |
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Sum1ne Else
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1162
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:39:00 -
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Check the notes..armour plates have changed in terms of PG/CPU
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
432
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:40:00 -
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It's not random. The hotfix changes were announced, discussed, dated and spreadsheet almost a month ago.
Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
7862
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:42:00 -
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We've done a pass on PG/CPU requirements for armor modules. You will need to make some changes to your fittings.
CCP Logibro // Patron Saint of Logistics // Distributor of Nanites
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![KILLER 20965 KILLER 20965](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
KILLER 20965
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:43:00 -
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Thats ******* bullshit... I spent hours working on a few fittings and now they are useless...![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png)
E-5
I once owned a district
Yes I run logi, got a problem?
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maluble
Mop Squad
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:44:00 -
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Thats hilarious I though you guys were done ruining your game go mess up legion before it has a chance to be good. |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:46:00 -
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The only way you're 7 PG over what your previous fit was would be if you were stacking a load of basic plates. The fitting requirements were, quite rightly, increased.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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maluble
Mop Squad
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:46:00 -
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I but blueprint plates and you change them now so they are garbage,similar to breech of contract. I want my money back. Can you devs not see how that is wrong? |
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Sum1ne Else
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1162
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:47:00 -
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maluble wrote:Thats hilarious I though you guys were done ruining your game go mess up legion before it has a chance to be good.
It was needed to make other plates viable. Who runs reactive/fero plates pre hotfix alpha?..the minority..now they are viable and cannot wait to start adding other plates onto my suits. Stacking armour modules will now be an even bigger compromise especially with the movement penalty. Good job CCP
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maluble
Mop Squad
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:49:00 -
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Sum1 other plates are not viable regardless. |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:50:00 -
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They're more viable than they were, though.
Basic plates needing such a tiny amount of resources was broken. I'm glad they fixed it.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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maluble
Mop Squad
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:51:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:We've done a pass on PG/CPU requirements for armor modules. You will need to make some changes to your fittings.
These kind of changes so late in game are unacceptable, you should keep this in mind before you start on another fps. |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:53:00 -
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maluble wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:We've done a pass on PG/CPU requirements for armor modules. You will need to make some changes to your fittings. These kind of changes so late in game are unacceptable, you should keep this in mind before you start on another fps.
It's perfectly acceptable for balance changes at any point in a game's lifetime, especially when they're fixing something that was obviously broken.
Stacking basic plates for minimal resource costs was broken. It would take you 4 PG to fit four previously, and that'd give you a solid tank. 4 PG for an entirely solid tank? It's a good thing that was fixed.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
988
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:53:00 -
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maluble wrote:So I log in and all my fittings are invalid saying I am using too much pg/cpu. If this is not a mistake then I am done with this game. This has been the straw that broke the camels back, wtf ccp? Its a significant change too 7 pg short of my original suit set up is ridiculous. I seriously hope bad things happen to people at ccp and anyone who has profited off this game.
Dude, this was discussed extensively.
They asked for input and showed us what the proposed changes would be in a spreadsheet. Then they posted what the changes would be a week or ten days before the patch was implemented.
This wasn't a surprise or stealth patch.
Let the changes settle in. See how it goes.
Hopefully they will go through the same process of consultation. Then they will likely make further balance tweaks.
The way they are going now seems to be a very positive change from the way they were doing things for the past year. For some unfathomable reason they didn't do this earlier.
Munch
Anyone who buys AUR now is a fool.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.06.04 13:56:00 -
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KILLER 20965 wrote:Thats ******* bullshit... I spent hours working on a few fittings and now they are useless... ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png) They will be looking into CPU/PG adjustments for suits in hotfix beta.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.06.04 14:51:00 -
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Lol, I'm loving the QQ
-Sincerely
--The Dual Swarm Commando
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
992
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:19:00 -
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OP is dumb, ignore this thread
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WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:23:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:OP is dumb, ignore this thread
Agreed, CCP can't hotfix stupid. |
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D3LTA Blitzkrieg II
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:24:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:OP is dumb, ignore this thread Agreed, CCP can't hotfix stupid.
aha! So this is where whataguy hangs out in the morning. |
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Miokai Zahou
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:37:00 -
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the tears in this thread... just wow.
Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
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Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:39:00 -
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maluble wrote:I bought blueprint plates and you change them now so they are garbage,similar to breech of contract. I want my money back. Can you devs not see how that is wrong?
I'm dying with laughter at how incompetent some people are... I haven't really been playing the game the last month, nor have I been on the forums and I STILL KNEW about the hotfix updates. You people need to read more..
Newb
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headbust
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:45:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:KILLER 20965 wrote:Thats ******* bullshit... I spent hours working on a few fittings and now they are useless... ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png) They will be looking into CPU/PG adjustments for suits in hotfix bravo. hahahahahahahaha i know this guy lol but seriously guy or gal that is mad there was a long discussion on this hotfix
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance
984
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:49:00 -
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maluble wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:We've done a pass on PG/CPU requirements for armor modules. You will need to make some changes to your fittings. These kind of changes so late in game are unacceptable, you should keep this in mind before you start on another fps.
Dude shut up and go home.
Nuff said.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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RayRay James
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:49:00 -
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People complain the game balance is broken. CCP announces fixes, discussed fixes with the community, and impliments the fixes People are mad they have to change things.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
1784
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Posted - 2014.06.04 16:17:00 -
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Well, at least there is basically a consensus that the OP is QQing because he abused easily fit plates, that the majority of people seem to realize needed changing.
I think that speaks volumes to how needed this change was.
And good riddance to FOTM chasers who abuse broken balance mechanics. This game will be better off.
The REAL Internet King
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Byozuma Kegawa
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
272
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Posted - 2014.06.04 16:52:00 -
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I logged on this morning to one, 1, as in single, fit being 2 points overbudget. Removed the one, 1, as in single, grenade and taa~daa! Fixed. Life moves on. By the way, it was my pub-match fit that costs me no isk to field. At all. Ever. The grenade was no loss. Adapt and move on or be gone. The game would be a much richer experience without people that can't roll with the punches, especially punches that are telegraphed by weeks. |
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Hoover Damn
H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.06.04 16:55:00 -
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A simpler fix would've been to modify the fitting requirements for the other plates and/or the armour bonus for the standard plates.
"Any job worth doing with a laser is worth doing with many, many lasers." - Unknown
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3361
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Posted - 2014.06.04 16:55:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Well, at least there is basically a consensus that the OP is QQing because he abused easily fit plates, that the majority of people seem to realize needed changing.
I think that speaks volumes to how needed this change was.
And good riddance to FOTM chasers who abuse broken balance mechanics. This game will be better off. I actually just switched one of my plates to an enhanced Ferroscale. Seems almost pointless on my Amarr suit, but I'm going to give it a go.
Pity they give such pathetic HP.
BlowoutForCPM
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
1953
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Posted - 2014.06.04 17:09:00 -
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THISS! |
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fragmentedhackslash
Last VenDetta.
301
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Posted - 2014.06.04 17:25:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Well, at least there is basically a consensus that the OP is QQing because he abused easily fit plates, that the majority of people seem to realize needed changing.
I think that speaks volumes to how needed this change was.
And good riddance to FOTM chasers who abuse broken balance mechanics. This game will be better off.
Now to work on the other stuffz...
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2193705#post2193705
Can I just add I have seen a responce from the community, having CCP's back, standing up for them very forceably sometimes as well, when they are doing the right thing, **** the wider community off and you have hell to pay, sometimes, just sometimes it it aimed at CCP that's all.
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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