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Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 148	Posted - 2014.06.03 06:54:00 - [1] - Quote So I've seen this post here before but I think this needs a serious look at. This idea is really from Titan Fall. For those who don't have the Origins gaming center or an Xbone, in Titan Fall you not only fight other players but NPCs. There are two of them, Marines and Specters (Hackable Robots). How I think this can fit into Legion is really in Factional Warfare and Planetary Conquest. Faction Warfare NPCs: How it will work is that there would be NPCs who are regular soldiers in their factions suits. Now these suits will have lower EHP than unfit Dropsuits and the damage they deal will be less as not to be to OP. They cannot hack objectives but will engage in combat. They can also send information to you and your squad about enemy movements. Killing a Soldier will not count towards the clone count and the WP gain will be 10WP due to how easy they are to kill. Logis will be able to revive them for 15WP and triage them for 5WP instead of 25. They can also tag along and NPC logis will just rep at an extremely low rate. Planetary Conquest: Now in PC they will work the same way as FW, however there are a few differences. First off you have to pay for these people to fight for you and will only be deployed if they are fitted. You will also have to pay for their suit fittings and can choose which suit, weapons and equipment they can use. Mechanic wise, they will operate the same as FW Soldiers. The Two Soldiers Types: The first is just a standard grunt, think of him as someone fresh out of training. He will be the weaker of the two. The second is more of a veteran fighter. He will have more EHP and do a bit more damage, but still weaker than an unfit basic suit. Notes: They can swarm. So you will need to engage them. One alone (even a Veteran) is not much of a threat, but 10 or more will be a problem, especially if you engage this group by yourself. Thoughts? Opinions? Concerns? Insults? Cookies? Come Join the War
Decasor The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 58	Posted - 2014.06.03 07:14:00 - [2] - Quote A really good idea. I like it a lot, sort of like drones in EVE, in a sense. Naturally would require a lot of tweaking (which you allude to) to prevent them being overpowered, on the other hand they shouldn't be a walkover either. Being able to fit them in corporation coloured/decorated armour would be nifty, but one thing at a time! Edit: a variety of roles should be able to be filled by the NPC"s with varying cost dependent upon skills i.e. electronic warfare solders, door gunners for dropships, grunts etc.
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 149	Posted - 2014.06.03 07:37:00 - [3] - Quote Decasor wrote: Edit: a variety of roles should be able to be filled by the NPC"s with varying cost dependent upon skills i.e. electronic warfare solders, door gunners for dropships, grunts etc. I completely agree. When I meant the two types I misspoke, I really meant two different levels. One being better (and more expensive) than the other. I would also like to add that in FW where you can't purchase troops, there will be a mixture of Veterans and Soldiers. I would love to see some medic style that would say "Hang in there buddy, I got you" when they are repping you or a grunt saying "Enemy Clones spotted at (insert location)," when they spot an enemy player or "Hell yeah got one!" when they kill an enemy player or npc. The list goes on. Come Join the War
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 860	Posted - 2014.06.03 11:14:00 - [4] - Quote Humans? No. Just like Eve is Homeworld with one player per unit, Legion will be Starcraft with one player per troop. Drones? Sure. Dust/Eve transfers
Decasor The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 59	Posted - 2014.06.03 12:21:00 - [5] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: Humans? No. Just like Eve is Homeworld with one player per unit, Legion will be Starcraft with one player per troop. Drones? Sure. Which in reality would just be a change of skin from a 'human' trooper. Personally i'm not concerned either way as long as the function is there. Manufacturing/upgrading etc would be an interesting issue though if drones are deployable as 'servants'! I must admit that when playing EVE a lot of my enjoyment simply came out of creating/researching and so on..
Samuel Zelik D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 212	Posted - 2014.06.03 15:08:00 - [6] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: Humans? No. Just like Eve is Homeworld with one player per unit, Legion will be Starcraft with one player per troop. Drones? Sure. I'm more inclined to agree here; although, this idea does have some merit. I'd love to see a return to Star Wars: Battlefront-esque style immersion, where NPC troopers are part of the "environment" in PvPvE. This would lead to some interesting options if you have Players, Drones, and/or NPCs competing with each other for Salvage. Additionally, battles would be interesting for players to team up with NPC troopers upon accepting an NPC contract. I think making NPC trooper underpowered is uncalled for, though. Their equipment, eHP, etc. should be no different than ours; if they are going to be in the game, they need to follow the same rules we do. Lovin' daddy Rattati! CCP Ankou s+êTà+ bro!
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4340	Posted - 2014.06.03 23:03:00 - [7] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: Humans? No. Just like Eve is Homeworld with one player per unit, Legion will be Starcraft with one player per troop. Drones? Sure. Your logic only applies if massive player numbers in a single game can exist, with the engine and netcode cooperating on a grand scale. Given that CCP have already blundered that with Dust thanks to their chosen engine, it is unlikely we will ever get it on Legion. NPC units are actually a great way to make the battle feel more "busy", as well as give the "Commander Mode" player a unique ability -- to direct NPC units in an RTS fashion to support the players on the field.
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 155	Posted - 2014.06.04 00:00:00 - [8] - Quote Samuel Zelik wrote: SponkSponkSponk wrote: Humans? No. Just like Eve is Homeworld with one player per unit, Legion will be Starcraft with one player per troop. Drones? Sure. I think making NPC trooper underpowered is uncalled for, though. Their equipment, eHP, etc. should be no different than ours; if they are going to be in the game, they need to follow the same rules we do. Thing is we don't want them to be too overpowered, if they are fitted with advanced or protogear, then that side would have an unfair advantage against players still in basic gear when fighting NPCs. So for this to work, CCP would need to find a medium between being so easy to kill they are useless and too overpowered that its not worth fighting them. Come Join the War
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10440	Posted - 2014.06.04 00:25:00 - [9] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Samuel Zelik wrote: SponkSponkSponk wrote: Humans? No. Just like Eve is Homeworld with one player per unit, Legion will be Starcraft with one player per troop. Drones? Sure. I think making NPC trooper underpowered is uncalled for, though. Their equipment, eHP, etc. should be no different than ours; if they are going to be in the game, they need to follow the same rules we do. Thing is we don't want them to be too overpowered, if they are fitted with advanced or protogear, then that side would have an unfair advantage against players still in basic gear when fighting NPCs. So for this to work, CCP would need to find a medium between being so easy to kill they are useless and too overpowered that its not worth fighting them. I also think your point is to introduce the difference between us Immortals and Mortal NPC's. As clones we do stand at 7 feet tall and are much more durable and combat effective. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2516	Posted - 2014.06.04 00:32:00 - [10] - Quote I like the idea, especially giving the commander a tool to use other than "HEY! GO THERE!" and the person goes the other way. This would actually be pretty neat. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10441	Posted - 2014.06.04 01:09:00 - [11] - Quote I can see it now. You stand there holding the line against waves of these tiny soldiers. You think you are a badass, damn son you are immortal and a certified badass....you've downed what? Ten enemies in rapid succession, your squad is slapping each other on the back..... but then you see something...it gives you pause. Oh **** its another waves......but there are massive soldiers in Heavy armour with them..... oh god you realise with horror...suddenly a tank shell takes you through the face and you wake up sweating in your CRU.... "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 155	Posted - 2014.06.04 01:11:00 - [12] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I can see it now. You stand there holding the line against waves of these tiny soldiers. You think you are a badass, damn son you are immortal and a certified badass....you've downed what? Ten enemies in rapid succession, your squad is slapping each other on the back..... but then you see something...it gives you pause. Oh **** its another waves......but there are massive soldiers in Heavy armour with them..... oh god you realise with horror...suddenly a tank shell takes you through the face and you wake up sweating in your CRU.... This is exactly what I had pictured. Come Join the War
Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2517	Posted - 2014.06.04 01:21:00 - [13] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: True Adamance wrote: I can see it now. You stand there holding the line against waves of these tiny soldiers. You think you are a badass, damn son you are immortal and a certified badass....you've downed what? Ten enemies in rapid succession, your squad is slapping each other on the back..... but then you see something...it gives you pause. Oh **** its another waves......but there are massive soldiers in Heavy armour with them..... oh god you realise with horror...suddenly a tank shell takes you through the face and you wake up sweating in your CRU.... This is exactly what I had pictured. same... well I was the one shooting the HAV shooting the blaster at True click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10443	Posted - 2014.06.04 01:25:00 - [14] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: True Adamance wrote: I can see it now. You stand there holding the line against waves of these tiny soldiers. You think you are a badass, damn son you are immortal and a certified badass....you've downed what? Ten enemies in rapid succession, your squad is slapping each other on the back..... but then you see something...it gives you pause. Oh **** its another waves......but there are massive soldiers in Heavy armour with them..... oh god you realise with horror...suddenly a tank shell takes you through the face and you wake up sweating in your CRU.... This is exactly what I had pictured. same... well I was the one shooting the HAV shooting the blaster at True I'd be 350m back burning you all with Laser Cannon. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 156	Posted - 2014.06.04 01:31:00 - [15] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: True Adamance wrote: I can see it now. You stand there holding the line against waves of these tiny soldiers. You think you are a badass, damn son you are immortal and a certified badass....you've downed what? Ten enemies in rapid succession, your squad is slapping each other on the back..... but then you see something...it gives you pause. Oh **** its another waves......but there are massive soldiers in Heavy armour with them..... oh god you realise with horror...suddenly a tank shell takes you through the face and you wake up sweating in your CRU.... This is exactly what I had pictured. same... well I was the one shooting the HAV shooting the blaster at True I'd be 350m back burning you all with Laser Cannon. And I'd be waddling my fat ass across the map so I can join the fight! Come Join the War
Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2517	Posted - 2014.06.04 01:50:00 - [16] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: True Adamance wrote: I can see it now. You stand there holding the line against waves of these tiny soldiers. You think you are a badass, damn son you are immortal and a certified badass....you've downed what? Ten enemies in rapid succession, your squad is slapping each other on the back..... but then you see something...it gives you pause. Oh **** its another waves......but there are massive soldiers in Heavy armour with them..... oh god you realise with horror...suddenly a tank shell takes you through the face and you wake up sweating in your CRU.... This is exactly what I had pictured. same... well I was the one shooting the HAV shooting the blaster at True I'd be 350m back burning you all with Laser Cannon. You would get the chance, as your slow ass wouldn't be able to stay at that range for long. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 222	Posted - 2014.06.04 06:55:00 - [17] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: True Adamance wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: True Adamance wrote: I can see it now. You stand there holding the line against waves of these tiny soldiers. You think you are a badass, damn son you are immortal and a certified badass....you've downed what? Ten enemies in rapid succession, your squad is slapping each other on the back..... but then you see something...it gives you pause. Oh **** its another waves......but there are massive soldiers in Heavy armour with them..... oh god you realise with horror...suddenly a tank shell takes you through the face and you wake up sweating in your CRU.... This is exactly what I had pictured. same... well I was the one shooting the HAV shooting the blaster at True I'd be 350m back burning you all with Laser Cannon. You won't get the chance, as your slow ass wouldn't be able to stay at that range for long. And as soon as you got close enough... Shofixti beats an Ur-Quan Dreadnought and a Kor-Ah Marauder.
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 156	Posted - 2014.06.04 07:04:00 - [18] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: True Adamance wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: This is exactly what I had pictured. same... well I was the one shooting the HAV shooting the blaster at True I'd be 350m back burning you all with Laser Cannon. You won't get the chance, as your slow ass wouldn't be able to stay at that range for long. And as soon as you got close enough... It's more like this. Come Join the War
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 222	Posted - 2014.06.04 07:15:00 - [19] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: And as soon as you got close enough... It's more like this. How the hell did you get in-game footage!? #EVELegionGreenlightConfirmed Shofixti beats an Ur-Quan Dreadnought and a Kor-Ah Marauder.
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 156	Posted - 2014.06.04 07:21:00 - [20] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: And as soon as you got close enough... It's more like this. How the hell did you get in-game footage!? #EVELegionGreenlightConfirmed I know a guy whos knows a guy who knows a guys cousin... Come Join the War



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