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Posted - 2014.06.02 22:57:00 -
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I just saw a corp named GamersForChrist. It gave me a chill. I literally shivered.
What's up with proselytizing murderers?
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:14:00 -
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Joe Macro wrote:... You don't have to agree or join. But, don't hate.
I'm not hating. Just wondering about the whole WWJD thing. I mean are these guys only playing the medic role? I just can't imagine Christ sitting around with the disciples playing FPS games, yelling, "WTF? I had that MF! How did he get me that quick!"
What would be Jesus' favorite weapon? Knives, HMG? Or would he be dropping REs and whispering "Blessed are the patient" to himself?
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Posted - 2014.06.03 11:02:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:So basically you want to just talk bad about them. The human race, devolving faster than you would have ever realized. If you can let homosexuals live their life, let the believers live theirs.
Thread is just poor taste.
I do not consider it to be of poor taste. It is a serious quandary. I am an athiest, but I know a lot about several religions, including Christianity.
1. One of the foundational precepts of Christianity is to keep the mind pure. Doing something in your heart/mind is viewed as being the same as actually doing it in reality.
2. Does it help anyone, or show love to anyone? Christ expressly left a message of love with his actions. I cannot envision him playing this game, but I could imagine him socializing with people who do play video games.
3. It is a worldly influence that does not glorify god or promote the values of Christianity.
4. It is a direct simulation of a forbidden behavior. Thou shalt not kill.
In regard your response to my original question, there is not a strong comparison between Christianity and homosexuality. Homosexuals are not claiming to adhere to any of the above ideas, so I have no questions about why a homosexual might play FPS games.
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Posted - 2014.06.03 17:03:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:You know Jesus said slaves should obey their masters right? What was the context? It is entirely sensible that slaves should obey their masters; not doing so has historically led to a rapid beating. Advocating that slaves should obey their masters =/= advocating slavery, necessarily. But also context, please.
Yeah, well it also doesn't say, "slaves, liberate yourselves from your masters." It says, "obey them." Whether or not the bible condones human oppression in the form of slavery is questionable, however the moral credibility of the bible can easily be dismissed simply by quantifying the numerous contradictions.
Since you're a scripture person: A more figurative reference about serving one master is here: Matthew 6:24 Jesus tells peter to put away his weapon: Matthew 26:52 What you do in your heart/mind is your true self: proverbs 23:7 Thinking is doing: Matthew 5:27-28
There is tons of this BS in the bible. The point is that if Christians picked up the damn book and read it, they would realize that games about war and murder are not aligned with the values of their chosen religion. Touting that you are a Christian that plays games about murder is a direct contradiction and indicates a strong pathological defense mechanism.
I'm just wondering how Christians justify playing war games. Would they teach it to their children, or is it something that only an adult can do? So, is looking at po*nography all of a sudden okay because you're not physically involved?
GamersForChrist is a ludicrous thing, from the perspective of an outsider. I am sure they are nice people, but seriously?
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Posted - 2014.06.03 17:19:00 -
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Freccia di Lybra wrote:... Personally, I'm christian, swear, probably too much, smoke, play video games and do a ton of other things that should be, according to you, forbidden. But I do believe there's a "God" and I do believe that anything Jesus said was right. But that's just my point of view, from what I've read and from my experience. It would be a much more complicated philosophical discussion...
Ephesians 4:29 et al - Don't use corrupt/obscene language 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 et al - Your body is a temple. John 8:11 et al - Go and sin no more.
Now you know.
How do you justify swearing, smoking, etc? Currently, it sounds like you're a faux Christian.
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Posted - 2014.06.03 17:32:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:The problem with all this is you are comparing things between hundreds of years of change. Back then there were not games with killing involved. An example, if you worked on a Sunday you are a sinner by the old laws. But the entirety of Sunday has been changed because times have changed. Even religions can evolve to encompass modern society. Edit - correction, there were no video games with killing involved
I agree that religions are subcultures that change over time, however, the concepts I refer to are thematic core concepts to Christianity, not specific to an era. This problem of comparing between hundreds of years of change is moot. According to the bible, if you do it in your mind, so you are.
The only marginally acceptable argument I see is from the standpoint of intent. By playing a video game, one does not physically intend to end another person's life. But that's like saying, by looking at po*nography, the boy did not physically intend to hook up with that skanky ho, so it's ok.
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Posted - 2014.06.03 19:04:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Again, there are many different viewpoints within religions, especially one as widespread as Christianity.
I hear ya. Some people profess to be something and choose only the aspects that appeal to them. Microreligions.
Still, if there were one place where I could go and not have to see/hear Christ somewhere, that would be a sweet sanctuary for me. I thought I could find an oasis among the belligerence of violence and war, but I was wrong. Alas, they have permeated every last vacuole. I wouldn't make anything of it if they didn't wear it on their sleeve.
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Posted - 2014.06.03 22:45:00 -
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Freccia di Lybra wrote:Your post is like yelling at religions telling them to be fundamentalists.
Everyone gets to do whatever they want by nature within the constraints of reality. I am merely commenting on the logic behind this one specific seeming contradiction. I only care because I became momentarily nauseous.
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Posted - 2014.06.03 23:02:00 -
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Freccia di Lybra wrote:Why? Can't they name a corporation as they want? What's wrong? This is a game, no one is dying, is much more a kind of "sport", where you test your skills, than a "killing simulation". And if you see these games as a killing sim, you'd better stop playing right now.
Each person's religion or lack thereof is specific to that individual. I was quite presumptuous to assume that the GamersForChrist had any semblance of traditional Christian virtue. Christianity is whatever anyone wants it to be. It's like the new Hinduism.
Peace
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