If removed hardeners would be the order of the day against other vehicles.

If removed hardeners would be the order of the day against other vehicles.

Other idea: What if damage mods reduced the range of fire by about 30%?

ADV and PRO rails fit that role to a T.
Edit: Also, Missiles.
I mean seriously, then it would take a bit of investment into tanks to survive, instead of, "whoever gets the rail and damage mod first wins"... Railgun ADV and PRO have a permanent damage mod inside of them.. 200 extra damage per level from about 1450 base, that's 20% boost almost to 1650 then 1880 or so..
You DON'T need 40% on top of 1650.. that's 2310 already.. tanks have about 5000 health
With no damage mods, that's... just about 5 shots if they had two hardeners running 45% max. 3 hardeners makes the tank a dead duck.

Also, the reppers would need diminishing returns when stacked or else that will claim the field. I can understand if one can rep through swarms, but not through railgun/ Forgegun fire.


Other idea: What if damage mods reduced the range of fire by about 30%?

Noob if someone ripped through your hardener your doing it wrong 2x dam mod 1 sheild hardener 1 particle cannon

That's a good idea and not about the 30 percent because that's a little too much , but the fact that ... that should have been the mechanic to begin with for both infantry and vehicles .

Place a damage mod on and have the range reduced on the effected weapon in swap for the extra power .

That would have been a game changer and would have had a greater effect in a persons approach to the game then just a flat percentage of a damage increase .

That's game development knowledge from a member from the community and a great job indeed .

That's innovative thinking .. +1 Dovallis .

ADV and PRO rails fit that role to a T.
Edit: Also, Missiles.
I mean seriously, then it would take a bit of investment into tanks to survive, instead of, "whoever gets the rail and damage mod first wins"... Railgun ADV and PRO have a permanent damage mod inside of them.. 200 extra damage per level from about 1450 base, that's 20% boost almost to 1650 then 1880 or so..
You DON'T need 40% on top of 1650.. that's 2310 already.. tanks have about 5000 health
With no damage mods, that's... just about 5 shots if they had two hardeners running 45% max. 3 hardeners makes the tank a dead duck.

Also, the reppers would need diminishing returns when stacked or else that will claim the field. I can understand if one can rep through swarms, but not through railgun/ Forgegun fire.


Other idea: What if damage mods reduced the range of fire by about 30%?

Repper tanks cannot rep through any conceivable railgun fit, and it takes a maxed out afg to down a maxed out repper tank.

If you expect CCP to be able to balance vehicles without taking input from vehicle users into account, then you are mistaken.

Before the vehicle rework, the vehicle users were very vocal about what they thought needed to be done. CCP went in a completely different direction and turned tanking into easy mode for scrubs.

None of this matters, because Legion will have 800 player battles with 100 Valkyrie pilots providing airborne AV. Expect a trailer showing that off next year, game to follow shortly afterwards(2020 at the earliest, then 4 years of beta, followed by a rebranding and a move to Google Wrap[the social rage after Google Glass flops]})

I imagine saying **** dust and working on legion.