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LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2597	Posted - 2014.06.01 14:58:00 - [1] - Quote I've been trying to make them work, I really have, but the Standard CR/RR does everything better. Countless times have I been fooled thinking, "I got this," after seeing an enemy's shields get stripped away, but as soon as I'd hit armor, things would end horribly for me. At range, I'd perch myself on something high and tell myself, "I got this," as I ADS on my TAR, but as soon as a red falls back to a distance of about 70m, I usually find my self eating CR and RR rounds. I give up. Guess I'll play with my Flaylock for bit.
manboar thunder fist SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 39	Posted - 2014.06.01 14:59:00 - [2] - Quote I use my breach to harass the top players on the enemy team 1.8 will shoot my amarr logi in the face with an ion pistol then bury it under a caldari heavy. No, not alive thankfully
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2597	Posted - 2014.06.01 15:01:00 - [3] - Quote manboar thunder fist wrote: I use my breach to harass the top players on the enemy team The Breach is one of the only variants that's worth a damn. Equip it on a stealthy GalScout and you'll wreck any red that you manage to sneak up on.
manboar thunder fist SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 39	Posted - 2014.06.01 15:02:00 - [4] - Quote I wouldn't say wreck... But it's more useful than a bolt pistol at close range 1.8 will shoot my amarr logi in the face with an ion pistol then bury it under a caldari heavy. No, not alive thankfully
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5796	Posted - 2014.06.01 15:08:00 - [5] - Quote The Breach still has insanely low DPS so even if you manage to get the drop on an individual, there's still a chance he could easily put you down at a faster rate than your could have. It was nice knowing you guys. But I'm done with DUST. So long guys, it's been an interesting Journey. Sgt Kirk, out.
Wolf revenant We Who Walk Alone 9	Posted - 2014.06.01 16:26:00 - [6] - Quote I've noticed something as I try to make adjustments to cope with the lag lately. One of my adjustments is to change my display to standard definition. When I use the TAR in high def. it sucks. When I use the TAR in standard def. it's pretty good. Could it have something to do with hit detection and how well the game is running at a given moment?
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 13889	Posted - 2014.06.01 16:28:00 - [7] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: manboar thunder fist wrote: I use my breach to harass the top players on the enemy team The Breach is one of the only variants that's worth a damn. Equip it on a stealthy GalScout and you'll wreck any red that you manage to sneak up on. The Breach also has the lowest light weapon DPS in the game excluding things like the swarm launcher. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Cross Atu for CPM1
PARKOUR PRACTIONER The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 1607	Posted - 2014.06.01 16:47:00 - [8] - Quote I like my TAC and Burst and breach ARs. Maybe its just me but those types of weapons are my niche. Minja Knifer, The Best Chef in New Eden G1 the best Artist PSN SilentChaozz Being a true scout is cowardice, who knew?
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 186	Posted - 2014.06.02 02:33:00 - [9] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I like my TAC and Burst and breach ARs. Maybe its just me but those types of weapons are my niche. Wish I could say the same. Mainly I use duvolle just to keep up with adv RR and CR. The breach seems pretty good but it needs an increase in ROF. As long as plasma rifles have a penalty vs armor it will be as OP wrote; once the shields are gone the plasma rifle gets bogged down and the enemy has time to hit back and win. Hopefully the hotfix boost to damage will improve things a bit. AKA - StarVenger
The Eristic Dust 90210 461	Posted - 2014.06.02 03:27:00 - [10] - Quote One of my most fun fits pre-1.8 was range tanked G-1 Scout with Breach AR + Breach Flaylock + Sleeks. Too bad they're kittening the GalScout, thought I was going to get to run that character again. Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.

HYENAKILLER X WILL FIGHT ANYONE 747	Posted - 2014.06.02 04:06:00 - [11] - Quote Proto burst ar with full prof and damage mods is "ok". I carry a breach on my galmando for the range. Lol/pointing@anyone using tac ars. Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1455	Posted - 2014.06.02 04:12:00 - [12] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Proto burst ar with full prof and damage mods is "ok". I carry a breach on my galmando for the range. Lol/pointing@anyone using tac ars. The breach has worse range than a standard AR. Fun > Realism
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 165	Posted - 2014.06.02 04:24:00 - [13] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: The Breach still has insanely low DPS so even if you manage to get the drop on an individual, there's still a chance he could easily put you down at a faster rate than your could have. Where are you getting your info from ? The breach melts scouts in seconds and 9 out of 10 I win If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2605	Posted - 2014.06.02 04:26:00 - [14] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Proto burst ar with full prof and damage mods is "ok". I carry a breach on my galmando for the range. Lol/pointing@anyone using tac ars. The breach has worse range than a standard AR. That's why I only use it on a stealthy scout. It's decent at CQC. Well, my Flaylock was fun. Guess I'll play around with my Breach MD.
Egonz4 318	Posted - 2014.06.02 05:18:00 - [15] - Quote I salute u fellow flaylocker self proclaimed - Master of The Flaylock
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3335	Posted - 2014.06.02 09:22:00 - [16] - Quote I was trying to use the DTAC earlier this week; I think I might have pulled a 1.5 KDR on my protosuit, and even that was thanks to my IASMG. Couldn't make it work. manboar thunder fist wrote: I wouldn't say wreck... But it's more useful than a bolt pistol at close range I would have to disagree strongly with you; I am a big fan of the bolt pistol. Now, if they cut its PG consumption a little... BlowoutForCPM
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox 349	Posted - 2014.06.02 10:41:00 - [17] - Quote breach ar + gallente assault = win. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
sebastian the huds Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 154	Posted - 2014.06.02 12:40:00 - [18] - Quote Bro! Bro! Do you even Allotek Burst assault rifle!?! Come at me bro! Got a commando with a Duvolle tac and an Allotek burst. Don't read this next statement. You little rebel, i like that.
Onesimus Tarsus Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 2049	Posted - 2014.06.02 14:38:00 - [19] - Quote SCRP and SMGs do the AR's job better. Battlefield 1943. Running since 2009. I'm diskinetic, BTW. Birth, growth, decline, death.
B-F M Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 6	Posted - 2014.06.03 02:00:00 - [20] - Quote Try pairing it with a sidearm (or secondary light weapon if commando) that does damage to armour - engage enemy with AR at range till shield is down, then switch to armour-eating weapon. The next step is to use this tactic with improved positioning, so... if enemy is weaker than you: engage with AR then advanced aggressively to finish off with SMG if enemy is stronger than you: engage with AR then retreat into cover and do cheeky shots to lure them over until they're in SMG range where you'll have the advantage. My main rifle is a CR, but I often have to use this tactic to beat shield-tankers. So on my Assault I try to get 2-3 scrambler pistol shots in first then switch to CR. Or.. on my Commando I can use TAC AR at range, then CR.

manboar thunder fist SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 47	Posted - 2014.06.03 14:48:00 - [21] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: manboar thunder fist wrote: I use my breach to harass the top players on the enemy team The Breach is one of the only variants that's worth a damn. Equip it on a stealthy GalScout and you'll wreck any red that you manage to sneak up on. The Breach also has the lowest light weapon DPS in the game excluding things like the swarm launcher. Which is why killing a proto fit player with it is so entertaining. Make sure you equip nades as you need to dispose of their body or pick up a logi+them doublekill while they trumpet in rage. NERF SCOUTS, NERF TANKS, NERF AV, NERF ASSAULTS, NERF LOGIS, NERF HEAVIES nerf life
manboar thunder fist SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 47	Posted - 2014.06.03 14:51:00 - [22] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: I was trying to use the DTAC earlier this week; I think I might have pulled a 1.5 KDR on my protosuit, and even that was thanks to my IASMG. Couldn't make it work. manboar thunder fist wrote: I wouldn't say wreck... But it's more useful than a bolt pistol at close range I would have to disagree strongly with you; I am a big fan of the bolt pistol. Now, if they cut its PG consumption a little... i like my bolt pistol too, heck i use the basic more than my assault SMG, but that's because headshots with it or just bodyshots wreck scouts in general. Plus, it's nice to have range with your nova knife/heavy hmg/viziam scrambler fits. But i dont use it as a straight up primary weapon.... i use it to finish people or kill them from afar. At close range vs an ACR/ASCR/AR/ARR/BR it is disadvantaged in terms of DPS ... Obviously NERF SCOUTS, NERF TANKS, NERF AV, NERF ASSAULTS, NERF LOGIS, NERF HEAVIES nerf life


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