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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
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Posted - 2014.06.01 09:13:00 -
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Everyone is slow except the Min,players in my match can't scan me unless their cal scout,that mean I can get close to kiled them.Killed two heavies an 18 more scout and logi with only 6 deaths.It was really 4 deaths but I got killed by a sniper 2 times.tried to kill him but did not find him.Wasted my time so match ended.How does it work for you.
All eyes on me till you drop dead in your Blood mmmm yummy
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poison Diego
Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo
406
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Posted - 2014.06.01 09:36:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:Everyone is slow except the Min,players in my match can't scan me unless their cal scout,that mean I can get close to kiled them.Killed two heavies an 18 more scout and logi with only 6 deaths.It was really 4 deaths but I got killed by a sniper 2 times.tried to kill him but did not find him.Wasted my time so match ended.How does it work for you.
its a good point defender. I love getting kills with that |
Velociraptor antirrhopus
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
117
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Posted - 2014.06.01 11:01:00 -
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personally i don't think you should be using kin cats on your nova knifer, but i havent been doing it for very long so take it with a grain of salt
i'd much rather have 2 complex dampeners that way a Cal Scout or Gal Logi will really have to try hard to scan you down
being seen is instant death when you've got nova knives. at least for me it is.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
1595
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Posted - 2014.06.01 11:14:00 -
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I love it. I'm a aggressive knifer, running behind groups and working my way from the last in line to the first, so I use kinetics since they actually DO kind of 'outrun' the stunlock? if I get seen. And cause I can flank so so fast and if you get behind cover I can run up on you so quick its so much fun. Like Moody said, the difference between knifing and shotgunning is very little. I'm now stab happy.
PSN Sil4nt Chaozz
GalScout since Chrome when few used it, now every F@ggot uses it, gimme my suit back I wear it better
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fragmentedhackslash
Last VenDetta.
287
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Posted - 2014.06.01 11:16:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:I love it. I'm a aggressive knifer, running behind groups and working my way from the last in line to the first, so I use kinetics since they actually DO kind of 'outrun' the stunlock? if I get seen. And cause I can flank so so fast and if you get behind cover I can run up on you so quick its so much fun. Like Moody said, the difference between knifing and shotgunning is very little. I'm now stab happy.
On the Minja?
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
1595
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Posted - 2014.06.01 11:18:00 -
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fragmentedhackslash wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:I love it. I'm a aggressive knifer, running behind groups and working my way from the last in line to the first, so I use kinetics since they actually DO kind of 'outrun' the stunlock? if I get seen. And cause I can flank so so fast and if you get behind cover I can run up on you so quick its so much fun. Like Moody said, the difference between knifing and shotgunning is very little. I'm now stab happy. On the Minja?
Yup. Forgot to type that lol. Basic Minja 2 ADV kinetics knives primary SMG secondary REs as secondary's secondary.
PSN Sil4nt Chaozz
GalScout since Chrome when few used it, now every F@ggot uses it, gimme my suit back I wear it better
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fragmentedhackslash
Last VenDetta.
287
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Posted - 2014.06.01 11:26:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:fragmentedhackslash wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:I love it. I'm a aggressive knifer, running behind groups and working my way from the last in line to the first, so I use kinetics since they actually DO kind of 'outrun' the stunlock? if I get seen. And cause I can flank so so fast and if you get behind cover I can run up on you so quick its so much fun. Like Moody said, the difference between knifing and shotgunning is very little. I'm now stab happy. On the Minja? Yup. Forgot to type that lol. Basic Minja 2 ADV kinetics knives primary SMG secondary REs as secondary's secondary.
Yeah, I sneakly copied Moodys fitments off his videos for critical point defence...
Works, till you get 1 shotted by everything...
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2188651#post2188651
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
1596
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Posted - 2014.06.01 11:30:00 -
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Yeah getting killed by a HMG at 80 mts or RR at 103 mts is BS. BS I say!
PSN Sil4nt Chaozz
GalScout since Chrome when few used it, now every F@ggot uses it, gimme my suit back I wear it better
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3991
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:12:00 -
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I have to start doing this more. I'm prof 4 w/ knives and L5 min scout.
I've only spent like 20 minutes knifing, I should delete all my fittings except for one and knife for a month straight.
Almost Level 4 Forum Warrior
PSN: wbrom42
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1059
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:20:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:Everyone is slow except the Min,players in my match can't scan me unless their cal scout,that mean I can get close to kiled them.Killed two heavies an 18 more scout and logi with only 6 deaths.It was really 4 deaths but I got killed by a sniper 2 times.tried to kill him but did not find him.Wasted my time so match ended.How does it work for you.
So you had a good game? Nice. Get those stats from 50+ games and tell us again how knives are.
:-S
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
9008
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:25:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Everyone is slow except the Min,players in my match can't scan me unless their cal scout,that mean I can get close to kiled them.Killed two heavies an 18 more scout and logi with only 6 deaths.It was really 4 deaths but I got killed by a sniper 2 times.tried to kill him but did not find him.Wasted my time so match ended.How does it work for you. So you had a good game? Nice. Get those stats from 50+ games and tell us again how knives are. He should try doing it in PC.
Anyone can drop a 50 against idiots in Public Contracts.
HvLP Spreadsheet Warrior
Why Do Slayers Get All The Credit? :(
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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
290
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:57:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Everyone is slow except the Min,players in my match can't scan me unless their cal scout,that mean I can get close to kiled them.Killed two heavies an 18 more scout and logi with only 6 deaths.It was really 4 deaths but I got killed by a sniper 2 times.tried to kill him but did not find him.Wasted my time so match ended.How does it work for you. So you had a good game? Nice. Get those stats from 50+ games and tell us again how knives are. Was in an other game 6 min ago.Got 18-7.A gal scout with an combat rifle killed me 3-4 times.Got him back when he was hacking.Did not kill him fast 1 strike for every death.Ya what about you
All eyes on me till you drop dead in your Blood mmmm yummy
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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
290
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Posted - 2014.06.01 15:00:00 -
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Atiim wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Everyone is slow except the Min,players in my match can't scan me unless their cal scout,that mean I can get close to kiled them.Killed two heavies an 18 more scout and logi with only 6 deaths.It was really 4 deaths but I got killed by a sniper 2 times.tried to kill him but did not find him.Wasted my time so match ended.How does it work for you. So you had a good game? Nice. Get those stats from 50+ games and tell us again how knives are. He should try doing it in PC. Anyone can drop a 50 against idiots in Public Contracts. Don't like my team they always lose I be the one with most points. Let me guess you two both use guns how boring.
All eyes on me till you drop dead in your Blood mmmm yummy
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Henrietta Unknown
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
257
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Posted - 2014.06.01 17:01:00 -
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I have Gal Scout, Kincats, and NK's to 5, yet a Cal Scout and his crutch ACR mows me down if I get to his friend.
Henrietta Reborn
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Vitharr Foebane
Heaven's Lost Property
1268
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Posted - 2014.06.01 20:17:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:Atiim wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Everyone is slow except the Min,players in my match can't scan me unless their cal scout,that mean I can get close to kiled them.Killed two heavies an 18 more scout and logi with only 6 deaths.It was really 4 deaths but I got killed by a sniper 2 times.tried to kill him but did not find him.Wasted my time so match ended.How does it work for you. So you had a good game? Nice. Get those stats from 50+ games and tell us again how knives are. He should try doing it in PC. Anyone can drop a 50 against idiots in Public Contracts. Don't like my team they always lose I be the one with most points. Let me guess you two both use guns how boring. There is nothin boring about that lovely beam of divine wrath known as a LR
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Orchi Aizen
Tronhadar Free Guard
48
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Posted - 2014.08.01 01:28:00 -
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Cass Caul
194
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Posted - 2014.08.01 02:17:00 -
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Most knife kills I've had in a single match since the changes in 1.8 was only 7. My average per match is somewhere around 2.5
Honestly, that's a lot. People are always watching for scouts and the only way for a Minja to remain undetected in PC is to run 3x complex dampeners and a proto cloak. but as soon as the cloak goes down everyone knows where you are.
It's not hard to get a kill in PC. It's hard to get a kill and then survive afterwards.
If you can't keep up, shut up.
Math is easy, you're just stupid.
The Empress of Alts
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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
617
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Posted - 2014.08.01 03:47:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Most knife kills I've had in a single PC match since the changes in 1.8 was only 7. My average per match is somewhere around 2.5
Honestly, that's a lot. People are always watching for scouts and the only way for a Minja to remain undetected in PC is to run 3x complex dampeners and a proto cloak. but as soon as the cloak goes down everyone knows where you are.
It's not hard to get a kill in PC. It's hard to get a kill and then survive afterwards. So true
Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
0
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Posted - 2014.08.01 04:27:00 -
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The best k/d I ever got with knives as my primary was 18/2, but 1 or 2 were scp kills... It was in a pub skirmish match where we redlined the other team. But even if I did get a really good k/d once or twice with knives, it doesn't make them 'easy to use' suddenly. Most of the time it's a horrible, soul-wrenching, masochistic experience. I didn't regularly go k/d positive with my knives for a month. Nova Knives are still arguably one of the most difficult weapons to use in the game, and probably still will be after charlie, but I like that about them; it's a nice challenge. |
BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
619
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Posted - 2014.08.01 04:34:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:The best k/d I ever got with knives as my primary was 18/2, but 1 or 2 were scp kills... It was in a pub skirmish match where we redlined the other team. But even if I did get a really good k/d once or twice with knives, it doesn't make them 'easy to use' suddenly. Most of the time it's a horrible, soul-wrenching, masochistic experience. I didn't regularly go k/d positive with my knives for a month. Nova Knives are still arguably one of the most difficult weapons to use in the game, and probably still will be after charlie, but I like that about them; it's a nice challenge. My best is stated above,people to knife at a time 3-4
Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
507
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Posted - 2014.08.01 04:41:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I have to start doing this more. I'm prof 4 w/ knives and L5 min scout.
I've only spent like 20 minutes knifing, I should delete all my fittings except for one and knife for a month straight. That's the way I learned. M-1, ZN-28s and Assault ScP. Precision enhancers and dampers only, and you have about 200 eHP. It's hard mode to the nth degree.... you learn quick, and the kills are sweeeeeeet when you get them. And with the above fitting, it's possible to do well in a pub match at least, believe it or not.
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
1236
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Posted - 2014.08.01 06:43:00 -
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Ultimately it depends on the situation. During normal gameplay I find setting up for a kill a waste of time and a hindrance to the team. The faster I can take a red down the less likely they can take a clone off our side. All too often I see a knifer chase his target around while be takes out team mates. Its selfish if you ask me. Therefore I shoot rather than knife 95% of the time. Not to mention they only really work in pubs without decent teams on comms else they're on to you the moment yo take the first one down.
For point defence yes they're very handy but a good primary weapon and RE's are far more reliable. I can't deny the power though (I have taken out some of the best heavies in the game in one swipe) but they fail too often, and fail hard. Recovering from that situation is almost impossible. Plus its already a given that there are players defending so enemy comms are less of an issue - unless its to call more support, but then that's a win in itself.
I have concerns with regard to the proposed changes though. Right now they're failure is mostly down to poor player prediction. Yes there is also a hit detection issue but not sure how the 'adhesion' buff will relate to that. We shall have to wait and see I guess.
"The air smells damp and oppressive, like a wet nun"
"Why am I talking to a lightbulb? Illuminate me"
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X7 lion
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
242
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Posted - 2014.08.01 11:42:00 -
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i speedstealth tank with nk's and i wreck shop... moooost of the time...
I am death,
you cannot see me,
you cannot out run me,
you cannot find me,
but im always right behind you. -stab-
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Dreis Shadowweaver
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
4
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Posted - 2014.08.01 18:31:00 -
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I've been toying around for a while now with the Combat Rifle + Nova Knives combo, and I'm finding it really effective: I can still kill enemies at a distance and can take out the heavies and logis up close. It's a very versatile fit and actually makes using knives helpful, rather than a hinderance, to my team. I highly recommend it.
Well, I once meleed an R.E.. That's all you need to know about me...
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