DUST Search - Get rid of WP

AmlSeb wrote:

After some time I decided to come back to the forums once more and had to find out that there is still just whining around and no constructive feedback. It-¦s like the whiners are the only people that stay here.

Enough of the cynicism and let-¦s get back to topic: Get rid of WP

WP or any other direct reward for actions in game are an invention of lobby shooters. There they work because after the match the barely matter anymore. A few unlocks or achievements but that-¦s it.
Let-¦s take COD BOII as example: (It-¦s the only COD I have so sorry) You have one major way to get them and that-¦s killing (and conquering). You get some additional points from Pointstreaks but those are usually only a part of the points you need to get them. They are the only support actions possible in the whole game. Here it works because you can clearly distribute the points (Conquering>)Killing>Kill Assists>Pointstreak points>Destruction

In BF4 it-¦s about the same just that you don-¦t have Pointstreaks but real Equipment and Vehicles. The focus still lies on Killing and Destruction so it is only marginally different. A supporting class is still not really supporting, it just throws down its equipment. You don-¦t give up fire power.

In DUST you can specialize in support and fully give up fire power to support your mates so it has to be equally worth the work of an assault suit dedicated to kill. You have heavies giving up 95% of their anti infantry abilities to run AV fits so that should worth equally as well. It should all be worth equally and there is the problem: There are no restrictions. You most of the time run a mix of two or even three of the dedications. If you run an Assault and use a rep tool you get as many points from it as a Logi using it and vice versa.
This leads together with missing damage bonuses on Assaults to fitting your suits to be good at everything (where logis are best at) instead of specializing into one role.

It may now seem that I want CCP to remove that freedoms in fitting but listen: DON-¦T REMOVE IT
If you remove WP at all every dedication is worth the same. There will be no more problems of exploiting rep tools or nanite injectors.

Of course there would be problems as well:
SP:
Skill Points are largely dependent on your WP gain
Solution: Make the whole SP system like EVE
Actively playing could increase the SP generation rate

Statistics:
WP are the statistic to compare all kinds of play styles
Solution: ISK efficiency rating
ISK you destroyed or saved divided by the ISK you lost

Recruiting:
As for now recruiter rewards depend on WP
Solution: Base it on total ISK destroyed or saved

Orbital Strikes:
They are available upon certain WP
Solution: Make them like those in FW

This would improve the game in several ways:

Every action is worth the same
You fight for your ISK, not your SP
Better statistics
More specializing in fitting instead of trying to be good at everything
More dependency on EVE players for Orbitals

If you don-¦t use it DUST use it at least in Legion
Cheers,
Aml


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Meee One BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Dark Taboo 814	Posted - 2014.06.02 15:02:00 - [1] - Quote AmlSeb wrote: After some time I decided to come back to the forums once more and had to find out that there is still just whining around and no constructive feedback. It-¦s like the whiners are the only people that stay here. Enough of the cynicism and let-¦s get back to topic: Get rid of WP WP or any other direct reward for actions in game are an invention of lobby shooters. There they work because after the match the barely matter anymore. A few unlocks or achievements but that-¦s it. Let-¦s take COD BOII as example: (It-¦s the only COD I have so sorry) You have one major way to get them and that-¦s killing (and conquering). You get some additional points from Pointstreaks but those are usually only a part of the points you need to get them. They are the only support actions possible in the whole game. Here it works because you can clearly distribute the points (Conquering>)Killing>Kill Assists>Pointstreak points>Destruction In BF4 it-¦s about the same just that you don-¦t have Pointstreaks but real Equipment and Vehicles. The focus still lies on Killing and Destruction so it is only marginally different. A supporting class is still not really supporting, it just throws down its equipment. You don-¦t give up fire power. In DUST you can specialize in support and fully give up fire power to support your mates so it has to be equally worth the work of an assault suit dedicated to kill. You have heavies giving up 95% of their anti infantry abilities to run AV fits so that should worth equally as well. It should all be worth equally and there is the problem: There are no restrictions. You most of the time run a mix of two or even three of the dedications. If you run an Assault and use a rep tool you get as many points from it as a Logi using it and vice versa. This leads together with missing damage bonuses on Assaults to fitting your suits to be good at everything (where logis are best at) instead of specializing into one role. It may now seem that I want CCP to remove that freedoms in fitting but listen: DON-¦T REMOVE IT If you remove WP at all every dedication is worth the same. There will be no more problems of exploiting rep tools or nanite injectors. Of course there would be problems as well: SP: Skill Points are largely dependent on your WP gain Solution: Make the whole SP system like EVE Actively playing could increase the SP generation rate Statistics: WP are the statistic to compare all kinds of play styles Solution: ISK efficiency rating ISK you destroyed or saved divided by the ISK you lost Recruiting: As for now recruiter rewards depend on WP Solution: Base it on total ISK destroyed or saved Orbital Strikes: They are available upon certain WP Solution: Make them like those in FW This would improve the game in several ways: Every action is worth the same You fight for your ISK, not your SP Better statistics More specializing in fitting instead of trying to be good at everything More dependency on EVE players for Orbitals If you don-¦t use it DUST use it at least in Legion Cheers, Aml So,you want slayer logis? Because a logistics suit can easily cost 250k isk. TL;DR You're an idiot.