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HYENAKILLER X
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Posted - 2014.05.30 19:52:00 -
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How does that even come into play when all the gripes have been about cloaks?
Right now my adv scout with full damp prof gets 25% off of scans. 30 dbs isnt s***. 35% off of 40 dbs is 26. In many cases 26 dbs isnt s***. I saw a caldari proto scout go 55/3 in a dom 2 days ago.
The idea of gimping gal scouts in all of this ia crazy. 90% of all the games played revolve around heavies and tanks during DOMS!!!!!!!!!!!
Cannot believe this.
Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
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HYENAKILLER X
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Posted - 2014.05.30 21:03:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:How does that even come into play when all the gripes have been about cloaks?
Right now my adv scout with full damp prof gets 25% off of scans. 30 dbs isnt s***. 35% off of 40 dbs is 26. In many cases 26 dbs isnt s***. I saw a caldari proto scout go 55/3 in a dom 2 days ago.
The idea of gimping gal scouts in all of this ia crazy. 90% of all the games played revolve around heavies and tanks during DOMS!!!!!!!!!!!
Cannot believe this. 1st off this change is completely justified. It has been explained so thoroughly that anyone against the changes are either mad b/c they can't have as easy time doing well or trolling. Justified? You have got to be kidding!!!!! If ANY thought was put into this they would have lowered scan profiles in general seeing how the move that 1.8 BLATENTLY was ewar, tactics, aggressive play and mobility. Scans......nerfed means gameplay was about player alertness, not player lathargy with scanners.
Even with all the stealth the average heavy still gets more wreck than tanks, dropships and anything else. Nerfing gal scouts will not change game play other than making players go to different suits. Wtf is the point in that? Ccp has seriously lost connection with core game play.
Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
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HYENAKILLER X
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Posted - 2014.05.30 22:10:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:Eko Sol wrote:1st off this change is completely justified. It has been explained so thoroughly that anyone against the changes are either mad b/c they can't have as easy time doing well or trolling.
SoGǪ why is it that we have not heard constant screams for nerfs for the Gal scout as this is the bonus it has had forGǪ as far as I can remember? Could it possibly be because so many people are using the suit? The nerf is unjustified, both of them; the dampening and scan range. Ok, to summarize, They are nerfing both Cal and Gal scouts to make medium suits more competitive. 1) There are no medium suits that can compete with the current scout suits except if the are competing against min or amarr scout 2) Gal scouts can be as fast as fast or faster than a 2x complex Kinkat min scout BUT have more dampening, more HP, and more scan range. The min scout is even better than the Amarr Scout so imagine that. 3) CCP recognizes that there are a lot of scouts being used to do things that are reserved for medium suits. They want them to be more specialized. Scouts shouldn't be over 9m/s sprint speed with 600 hp and not scanable. It doesn't make sense. medium suits can't do 600 hp with a 9m/s sprint speed let alone also be unscannable. 4) There is another hidden nerf to the Gal scout. The basic/Mlt armor plates will cost more PG and Basic and Enhanced will have a larger penalty to sprint speed. So now, if a Gal scout wants to be bricked out, it will be as slow or slower than a medium. it won't be completely stealth. And basically operate as a medium with a cloak, which I think is still fairly damn good. They are encouraging scouts to use reactive or ferroscale. 5) Lastly you forgot that they are nerfing scout armor rep from 3hp/s to 1hp/s. Again, to help eliminate gal scouts that are bricked out, stealth, fast, and rep armor so fast. Again, no medium or other scout can do this as well as the gal no matter what module combinations are used That is the summary. If you cannot comprehend these small facts then you are just a whiner who is, likely, a terrible player who needs everything they can to be successful. Besides that, wearing 2x complex dampeners on your gal scout instead of 1x is not that big of a deal. If it is then re-read the second sentence of this paragraph. Like so many people state in the forums: Adapt or Die Like I stated earlier, this will not change how the game works. This will not change game play. If ANY coherant thought was used it would have come to realize buffing medium suits is more important than nerfing scouts.
Why the hell would you slow anything, or make any player more vulnerable with the current state of the game. Huge maps, op vehicles and indestructabe heavy/logi combos are what beat everyone period.
Deciding that(and may I say omfg) to reinstitute a higher speed penalty AFTER CCP REMOVED IT is insane.
How slow, and how armored does the average player need things just to play? You say adapt or perish like that actually means something outside you trying to sound self righteous while regurgitating information that is not even relavent to the statement.
Smh
Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
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HYENAKILLER X
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Posted - 2014.05.30 22:39:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:Eko Sol wrote:1st off this change is completely justified. It has been explained so thoroughly that anyone against the changes are either mad b/c they can't have as easy time doing well or trolling.
SoGǪ why is it that we have not heard constant screams for nerfs for the Gal scout as this is the bonus it has had forGǪ as far as I can remember? Could it possibly be because so many people are using the suit? The nerf is unjustified, both of them; the dampening and scan range. Ok, to summarize, They are nerfing both Cal and Gal scouts to make medium suits more competitive. 1) There are no medium suits that can compete with the current scout suits except if the are competing against min or amarr scout 2) Gal scouts can be as fast as fast or faster than a 2x complex Kinkat min scout BUT have more dampening, more HP, and more scan range. The min scout is even better than the Amarr Scout so imagine that. 3) CCP recognizes that there are a lot of scouts being used to do things that are reserved for medium suits. They want them to be more specialized. Scouts shouldn't be over 9m/s sprint speed with 600 hp and not scanable. It doesn't make sense. medium suits can't do 600 hp with a 9m/s sprint speed let alone also be unscannable. 4) There is another hidden nerf to the Gal scout. The basic/Mlt armor plates will cost more PG and Basic and Enhanced will have a larger penalty to sprint speed. So now, if a Gal scout wants to be bricked out, it will be as slow or slower than a medium. it won't be completely stealth. And basically operate as a medium with a cloak, which I think is still fairly damn good. They are encouraging scouts to use reactive or ferroscale. 5) Lastly you forgot that they are nerfing scout armor rep from 3hp/s to 1hp/s. Again, to help eliminate gal scouts that are bricked out, stealth, fast, and rep armor so fast. Again, no medium or other scout can do this as well as the gal no matter what module combinations are used That is the summary. If you cannot comprehend these small facts then you are just a whiner who is, likely, a terrible player who needs everything they can to be successful. Besides that, wearing 2x complex dampeners on your gal scout instead of 1x is not that big of a deal. If it is then re-read the second sentence of this paragraph. Like so many people state in the forums: Adapt or Die Like I stated earlier, this will not change how the game works. This will not change game play. If ANY coherant thought was used it would have come to realize buffing medium suits is more important than nerfing scouts.
Why the hell would you slow anything, or make any player more vulnerable with the current state of the game. Huge maps, op vehicles and indestructabe heavy/logi combos are what beat everyone period.
Deciding that(and may I say omfg) to reinstitute a higher speed penalty AFTER CCP REMOVED IT is insane.
How slow, and how armored does the average player need things just to play? You say adapt or perish like that actually means something outside you trying to sound self righteous while regurgitating information that is not even relavent to the statement.
Smh
Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
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HYENAKILLER X
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Posted - 2014.05.30 22:43:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:You want to keep things the way they are because you are afraid that if they are not you won't perform as well. That's all it is. Should have said that at the beginning. Um no. I was good in a gal assault and with the coming ar buff I have proto gal commando. This is about me sinking sp and isk into an already extremely long time line and not getting(again) what I paid for. You dont speak for me, you speak for ccp due to lack of individuality.
Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
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Posted - 2014.05.31 04:11:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:The OP must run GalScout and is sad that he is no longer an invisible force of destruction. The majority of the community is happy about this, even many players, good players, that run GalScout.
Plain and simple, a GalScout can still be completely invisible even after the hotfix hits. Run the numbers properly. The only big change is that it will no longer be able to stack copious amounts of armor, be completely invisible and be super fast. Just like others have stated.
As for your argument of "heavies and logis are the real issue" is a complete misunderstanding. The heavy and logi combo in Dust has always been subpar at best. Now that it's finally working as intended people are QQ'ing over it. It's really simple. Kill the logi, then kill the heavy. Or you could even ask your squad mates for help if you cannot do it yourself. Scouts and medium frames aren't meant to take heavies on 1v1 and win, let alone one heavy with a logi versus one light or medium frame. Heavies are in a good place. They're difficult to kill, yet not indestructible.
IMO you just need to play smarter. If you have difficulty taking out heavy/logi combos then maybe the light frame suits aren't for you.
As for tanks? Yeah it's still an issue if you don't have vehicle users on your team. Light AV still needs some work IMO. If you're really having that much trouble with them do what the rest of us do. Sica + Railgun + 2x DMG mods. The tank QQ tears will start flowing. Invisible? you people are rediculous. Heavies are invincable in cqc without a logi let alone with one. THATS WHY CUBS ALWAYS RAN HEAVY WITH LOGI. Tanks fear no one and rightfully so. Av is garbage. Almost every game is dom or ambush where heavies and tanks dominate. How the hell can you nerf scouts and crs when EVERY SINGLE GAWD DAAM THING BOUNCES OFF OF THEM? Its f***ing stupid. Cloaks make you invisible, not profile dampening. Profile dampening is radar only. When you say invisible I want to slam my head in a door to clear my mind of your stupidity.
The notion that ccp is fixing anything is ********. The only thing broken is cloaks, av, heavies and tanks and they wont touch vehicles or heavies because thats a scrub role that earns money.
Ide like my game to revolve around progression and excellence not pitty and training wheels.
You fkn people who agree with scout/cr nerf are pathetic.
Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
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Posted - 2014.05.31 06:21:00 -
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Im ar lvl 3 on gal scout and now that they are nerfing it I not only feel robbed but deflated. It is so hard to be enrhusiastic at all with this game. Its like a scrub daycare and ccp is some trailor park welfare mom making money off of crying babies. If I had a hi def tv ide of left for cod months ago.
These people care about money more than they ever will quality.
Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
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Posted - 2014.05.31 06:35:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Go into tanks CCP loves tankes They just keep on going and going and going
Oh and they are race car fast also Tanks are for scrubs.
Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
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