DUST Search - Fixing gal scout profile dampening?

Eko Sol wrote:

Sleepy Shadow wrote:

Eko Sol wrote:

1st off this change is completely justified. It has been explained so thoroughly that anyone against the changes are either mad b/c they can't have as easy time doing well or trolling.

SoGÇª why is it that we have not heard constant screams for nerfs for the Gal scout as this is the bonus it has had forGÇª as far as I can remember? Could it possibly be because so many people are using the suit?

The nerf is unjustified, both of them; the dampening and scan range.

Ok, to summarize, They are nerfing both Cal and Gal scouts to make medium suits more competitive.

1) There are no medium suits that can compete with the current scout suits except if the are competing against min or amarr scout

2) Gal scouts can be as fast as fast or faster than a 2x complex Kinkat min scout BUT have more dampening, more HP, and more scan range. The min scout is even better than the Amarr Scout so imagine that.

3) CCP recognizes that there are a lot of scouts being used to do things that are reserved for medium suits. They want them to be more specialized. Scouts shouldn't be over 9m/s sprint speed with 600 hp and not scanable. It doesn't make sense. medium suits can't do 600 hp with a 9m/s sprint speed let alone also be unscannable.

4) There is another hidden nerf to the Gal scout. The basic/Mlt armor plates will cost more PG and Basic and Enhanced will have a larger penalty to sprint speed. So now, if a Gal scout wants to be bricked out, it will be as slow or slower than a medium. it won't be completely stealth. And basically operate as a medium with a cloak, which I think is still fairly damn good. They are encouraging scouts to use reactive or ferroscale.

5) Lastly you forgot that they are nerfing scout armor rep from 3hp/s to 1hp/s. Again, to help eliminate gal scouts that are bricked out, stealth, fast, and rep armor so fast. Again, no medium or other scout can do this as well as the gal no matter what module combinations are used

That is the summary. If you cannot comprehend these small facts then you are just a whiner who is, likely, a terrible player who needs everything they can to be successful. Besides that, wearing 2x complex dampeners on your gal scout instead of 1x is not that big of a deal. If it is then re-read the second sentence of this paragraph.

Like so many people state in the forums:

Adapt or Die

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One class/role/frame/tactic/item, be it an ADS, HAV, AV weapon, Scout, Mass Driver, HMG, etc, should never have it's only viable counter be a subset of itself. Otherwise, the only way to counter one once it's fielded would be to use the class/role/frame/item/tactic yourself.

This would everyone who wants to remain viable to switch to that class/role/frame/tactic/item, thus killing the diversity DUST 514 and New Eden as a whole is supposed to have.

It also needs to be on a ratio where an equal amount of manpower is required to function and counter from both teams, otherwise you'll lead to the same problem I stated above.

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Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 8960	Posted - 2014.05.30 22:56:00 - [1] - Quote Eko Sol wrote: Sleepy Shadow wrote: Eko Sol wrote: 1st off this change is completely justified. It has been explained so thoroughly that anyone against the changes are either mad b/c they can't have as easy time doing well or trolling. SoGÇª why is it that we have not heard constant screams for nerfs for the Gal scout as this is the bonus it has had forGÇª as far as I can remember? Could it possibly be because so many people are using the suit? The nerf is unjustified, both of them; the dampening and scan range. Ok, to summarize, They are nerfing both Cal and Gal scouts to make medium suits more competitive. 1) There are no medium suits that can compete with the current scout suits except if the are competing against min or amarr scout 2) Gal scouts can be as fast as fast or faster than a 2x complex Kinkat min scout BUT have more dampening, more HP, and more scan range. The min scout is even better than the Amarr Scout so imagine that. 3) CCP recognizes that there are a lot of scouts being used to do things that are reserved for medium suits. They want them to be more specialized. Scouts shouldn't be over 9m/s sprint speed with 600 hp and not scanable. It doesn't make sense. medium suits can't do 600 hp with a 9m/s sprint speed let alone also be unscannable. 4) There is another hidden nerf to the Gal scout. The basic/Mlt armor plates will cost more PG and Basic and Enhanced will have a larger penalty to sprint speed. So now, if a Gal scout wants to be bricked out, it will be as slow or slower than a medium. it won't be completely stealth. And basically operate as a medium with a cloak, which I think is still fairly damn good. They are encouraging scouts to use reactive or ferroscale. 5) Lastly you forgot that they are nerfing scout armor rep from 3hp/s to 1hp/s. Again, to help eliminate gal scouts that are bricked out, stealth, fast, and rep armor so fast. Again, no medium or other scout can do this as well as the gal no matter what module combinations are used That is the summary. If you cannot comprehend these small facts then you are just a whiner who is, likely, a terrible player who needs everything they can to be successful. Besides that, wearing 2x complex dampeners on your gal scout instead of 1x is not that big of a deal. If it is then re-read the second sentence of this paragraph. Like so many people state in the forums: Adapt or Die 6) Scanning. The problems with Active Scanner: Scans provided over vast areas 24/7 Removed the need for situational awareness Precision so low that it became nearly impossible to counter for most Scouts & MedFrames Ironically, those same problems are currently present with the Passive Scanner, and it's the some of same people who called for the Active Scanner nerf defending the Passive Scanner nerf. There is no way to counter a Scout w/ Precision Enhancers without becoming a Scout yourself; which is bad for a reason I've already explained eariler, so allow me to copy/paste: Quote: One class/role/frame/tactic/item, be it an ADS, HAV, AV weapon, Scout, Mass Driver, HMG, etc, should never have it's only viable counter be a subset of itself. Otherwise, the only way to counter one once it's fielded would be to use the class/role/frame/item/tactic yourself. This would everyone who wants to remain viable to switch to that class/role/frame/tactic/item, thus killing the diversity DUST 514 and New Eden as a whole is supposed to have. It also needs to be on a ratio where an equal amount of manpower is required to function and counter from both teams, otherwise you'll lead to the same problem I stated above. G£ô HvLP Spreadsheet Warrior Why Do Slayers Get All The Credit? :( -HAND