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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1789
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Posted - 2014.05.30 16:26:00 -
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Each match I go at least half a million in the red because of stupid vehicle imbalances. Reducing the ISK would greatly reduce the rage which these imbalances bring.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1792
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Posted - 2014.05.31 03:10:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Yoma Carrim wrote:Atiim wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Or cause more vehicle spam? Not thanks. Prices are fine imo. The price effectively denies someone of the ability to use what they dumped all of their SP into. I know I wouldn't like it if I had to run Starter Fits as opposed to my Dual Swarm Commando. They aren't even consistent. 24k for a ST-201t, yet 105k for an AT-201? That's 4x the price and it's not even a specialized variant, or Prototype.  Balance the vehicles and I'll deal with the spam all day. It gives me something better to do than lolstopming people. ^this a proto turret costs the same as the stock frame for an ADS about 300k EDIT. This isn't to say that vehicles fitting prototype mods should cost the same as the Proto suits they should still cost more but the scaling of vehicle prices is off. Is it off? I wonder about the ISK effiency of vehicles compared to that of drop suits. I'm guessing vehicles win that comparison but I could be wrong. CCP we demand these STATS!
My wallet is in the red running vehicles almost every match, except when I run a militia fit triple rep blaster Maddy in ambush 
While my alt can run almost exactly what he wants and still break even or even be in the green a little (adv Amarr assault with adv laser rifle, adv SMG, adv nanohive, complex armor mods, and soon to be complex shield mods)
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1793
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Posted - 2014.06.01 00:06:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:lolno. prices don't need reducing anymore. How about they just fix the vehicles?
Trust me, I'd much rather them fix vehicles. However, I think we both know that it won't be for a while, and any band-aid would help while the wound heals.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1800
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Posted - 2014.06.02 00:02:00 -
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I've been settled down for several days now, though I'd still like to see a price reduction, at least for the turrets. The large XT missiles make up nearly 3/5 of the final cost of my fitting. I think that halving turret prices will have the highest benefit to proto with no benefit to militia (as it's already extremely cheap).
Also reducing the cost of proto makes it affordable to more people too, making SP the only barrier rather than SP and ISK. I'm more for reducing proto prices for everything to make it more accessible to everyone rather than the 1%.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1801
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Posted - 2014.06.02 01:05:00 -
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castba wrote:Harpyja wrote:I've been settled down for several days now, though I'd still like to see a price reduction, at least for the turrets. The large XT missiles make up nearly 3/5 of the final cost of my fitting. I think that halving turret prices will have the highest benefit to proto with no benefit to militia (as it's already extremely cheap).
Also reducing the cost of proto makes it affordable to more people too, making SP the only barrier rather than SP and ISK. I'm more for reducing proto prices for everything to make it more accessible to everyone rather than the 1%. Proto is not supposed to be readily accessible. It is supposed to be a considerable financial risk to use.
Only if the benefits are marginal. Though we all can agree that there's nothing marginal about the turret damage from standard to proto, from standard to proto dropsuit, and from standard to proto dropsuit modules.
The only items that provide marginal benefits are weapons, with only about 10% increased damage from standard to proto.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1802
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Posted - 2014.06.02 16:29:00 -
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The-Errorist wrote:Turrets should be expensive, modules should be cheap, and the hulls are fine except for assault dropships'.
Edit: The reason I thin turrets should stay as costly is because they get 30% more damage from standard to proto while for infantry its only a 10% difference.
Exactly why they should become cheaper. ISK shouldn't allow for pay-to-win. You get a pay-to-win scenario when the benefits are not marginal and the cost becomes prohibitive for most.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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