just realize that CCP tested the concept with us. They did not want to alienate their PC player base. They needed time to train and learn how to make a shooter with a small player base.

LOL @ both of you morons.

Dust didn't make enough money because the game never was any sort of good. Its been a subpar game from day one. About a 3 K constant playerbase on a free to play ps3 game says a lot about how good the game actually is....

And LOL at blaming it on the PS3, I guess you never played MAG?

That's not the problem; the problem is that what they want to do with dust/legion can't be done on the PS3.

ccp didn't promote dust514 on game shops worldwide and failed to advertise dust514 on facebook or in other sites ths only thing there have is the youtube channel come on ccp hire some business brains on your company i only discovered this game because my friend told me how the heck you expect to make money on that come on ccp here is a advice before you release legion promote your game on computer shops worldwide and advertise..

LOL @ both of you morons.

Dust didn't make enough money because the game never was any sort of good. Its been a subpar game from day one. About a 3 K constant playerbase on a free to play ps3 game says a lot about how good the game actually is....

And LOL at blaming it on the PS3, I guess you never played MAG?

I doubt its really all that fair to compare what Zipper did with MAG to Dust 514. Unless you are a game developer, you really don't have any authority to make that comparison.

However, I think even the Devs agree that Dust sucks cause they couldn't figure out how to make a good game on the PS3, hence the move to PC. If they felt they could have made a better game on the PS4 I 100% believe they would have announced Legion for the PS4 instead. They would have had a wider audience to appeal to and a higher profit potential.

I doubt its really all that fair to compare what Zipper did with MAG to Dust 514. Unless you are a game developer, you really don't have any authority to make that comparison.

However, I think even the Devs agree that Dust sucks cause they couldn't figure out how to make a good game on the PS3, hence the move to PC. If they felt they could have made a better game on the PS4 I 100% believe they would have announced Legion for the PS4 instead. They would have had a wider audience to appeal to and a higher profit potential.

I'll gladly admit that I don't have the slightest idea about programming, but it doesn't change any of the facts:

- MAG had 256 player battles working as good as totally lag free. (As long as you played it on your regional server)
- MAGs biggest and only(?) issue was the latency, AKA they shut down all the servers except for the one in LA making it extremely hard for EU players to compete with our 500 ms ping.
- Dust couldn't even get 16 vs 16 without a severe frame rate drop whenever players are grouped too close together.
- They never got any sort of proper balance going, this goes for all the various builds....
- FFS sake dubs, now, a year after launch they can't even get basic movement right. Sometimes I get the run glitch, I press my "run" button but my character runs at about walking speed, this bug has been in the game since 1.8 launch and the devs haven't even acknowleged it. Its raelly pathetic to not even get basic movement right after 2 years...
- You know, I could go on and on about how much better MAG was than Dust, I could also go on and on about the various faults of Dust, we all know this.
- You write towards the end "if they could make a better game on the PS4...) So, are we agreeing that its the lack of skill from CCPs side thats the real issue here? Or do you honestly believe that the tech that has brought great game after great game isn't good enough for Dust?

Oh yeah, I'm not saying its 'only' the PS3s fault, but to say "MAG had 256 players therefore all games can have 256 players' is likely an unfair comparison, would you not agree?

Was MAG a better game? Of course, I played it for about a year and can't deny that either.

I do believe the PS3 can't allow Dust to be what it should be though. Its a mix of dated hardware, CCP Shanghai, Sony's validation process, and Unreal 3 that make Dust the game it is though imo, not JUST CCP Shanghai.

If what I'm seeing from Legion is truly legit for the comparatively short time they've put into it, its clear those are guys who make PC games.

ccp didn't promote dust514 on game shops worldwide and failed to advertise dust514 on facebook or in other sites ths only thing there have is the youtube channel come on ccp hire some business brains on your company i only discovered this game because my friend told me how the heck you expect to make money on that come on ccp here is a advice before you release legion promote your game on computer shops worldwide and advertise..

ccp didn't promote dust514 on game shops worldwide and failed to advertise dust514 on facebook or in other sites ths only thing there have is the youtube channel come on ccp hire some business brains on your company i only discovered this game because my friend told me how the heck you expect to make money on that come on ccp here is a advice before you release legion promote your game on computer shops worldwide and advertise..

LOL @ both of you morons.

Dust didn't make enough money because the game never was any sort of good. Its been a subpar game from day one. About a 3 K constant playerbase on a free to play ps3 game says a lot about how good the game actually is....

And LOL at blaming it on the PS3, I guess you never played MAG?

And LOL at blaming it on the PS3, I guess you never played MAG?

Gameplay > Graphics/Performance

BTW, did you break 100k kills yet?

ccp didn't promote dust514 on game shops worldwide and failed to advertise dust514 on facebook or in other sites ths only thing there have is the youtube channel come on ccp hire some business brains on your company i only discovered this game because my friend told me how the heck you expect to make money on that come on ccp here is a advice before you release legion promote your game on computer shops worldwide and advertise..

No, I thought I could get those last 4000 kills but I just can't be bothered.....