it is also an unequivocal fact, that based on the amount of stuff other companies have been capable of doing on the ps3 that ccp did not bring dust to its full potential, and probably more truthfully spoken, were not skilled enough too.

troll post is troll.

really? are you cereal? so cereal?

/slow clap

and as far as palming goes, yes it does feel good... I palm it every night before I go to sleep sometimes I even let my wife palm it... but she doesn't have my technique...

it is pure and simple fact that ps3 is last gen and its days are numbered

it is also fact that porting a game from ps3 to ps4 is NOT an easy thing to do, there's an article by naughty dog explaining how difficult it was to do it with the last of us; and this is a company that has had over 7 years experience on the ps3 ...plus more years on ps2...but they did do it...

it is also an unequivocal fact, that based on the amount of stuff other companies have been capable of doing on the ps3 that ccp did not bring dust to its full potential, and probably more truthfully spoken, were not skilled enough too.

it is also a fact that eve is the only successful game they have ever had, it is very niche, it has had TONS of problems over the years (incarna for one),and unlike most triple A titles it has never had millions of people who play it, the average amount on at any given time including dust players is about 35,000 WORLD WIDE that is nothing! the most eve ever had on at once was around 60,000 WORLD WIDE.

the bottom line is ccp has not done anything to inspire confidence that they can pull legion off... the ps3 wasn't the problem, their lack of ability and application has always been the issue.

if this wasn't true dust would have been better than it was because as we all know the ps3 has had lots of great games, and MMO's like ff14, DCUO, have also been done successfully.

there is no excuse for why they could not have had:

PVE

a player market ( not connected to eve)

32v32 matches

an efficient tutorial for beginners

better controls

better balance

etc etc etc

all other good ps3 games have these things. while dust may be a more in depth shooter experience its coding was not so much more complicated than every other triple A ps3 game that it had a disadvantage to compete....it was simply a failure to hire competent people which resulted in a skill deficit of the development team trying to complete the task... which is fact because most of the old devs are gone.

but instead of hiring competent people who could rework the ps3 version of dust and port it to ps4 they hired instead people to port it to PC with a nice new shiny name... and they haven't even ok'ed the game yet.

by the way they handled fan fest this new arm of ccp doesn't look any more prepared or capable of delivering the dream of legion anymore than the old team was capable of delivering the old dream of dust.

if legion fails, how many more dreams will you let ccp sell you?

I agree completely.

thanks.

I cant wait to read your next post!

Dust is unnecessarily complicated. It's a schizophrenic mish-mash of front-end equation fiddling and results-based criticism. They could have easily simulated the ties to EvE, simplified the weapons load-outs, matchmade by K/D(r) and WP/D(r) and had something worth selling until Legion hit. They chose to do, um, this. Whatever that is.

the idea of dust is more complicated than the reality of it....

its all smoke and mirrors just like eve.... eve has almost no graphics when you think about it its just a lot of pretty looking space pictures on a 2-d plain that gives the illusion of a large open universe, when really (and I don't have the exact numbers) every X amount of distance just puts you in a new "room" every time you jump, it just puts you in a new "room" you didn't actualy travel all the distance youre made to believe you covered...

dust is the same kind of illusion. it's a lobby shooter... you go from your little room to a bigger room with 31 random people, the red line are the walls to that room... you don't actually travel through a universe to a planet... nothing but the text telling you that you are on xyz planet is done to put you there...

my point?

pve could be done the same way, incredibly easily... a single player or maybe 4 man "room" where you kill some drones or npc soldiers and such and then back to your little room when its done.

there is nothing complicated about doing something like this... there are many complicated ps3 games that do so much more than this... don't let ccp fool you... it was their lack of skill and not short comings on the ps3 that made dust the way it was/is

I'm not going to be CCP's pr team or try to explain what "I think" happened. last time I did that they royally shafted me, lesson learned fellas, the only thing you're laser focused on is my anus.

now everything I'm about to say is probably total bullshit, but I feel like it's important to add another perspective.

I never said I knew anything about coding btw.... I'[b]m simply an intuitive person with some critical thinking skills, so I'm able to see what has been done with the ps3 and then look at dust and see how far below that bar the game is and for no reason that I can see or for that matter any reason ccp ever detailed....

So in other words, you assumed everything - well we all know what happens when you assume things...

...You make an ASS out of U and ME You miss some really important stuff that is admittedly not immediately obvious.

lol so let me get this straight... because you feel that you cant sway me to your position I need to grow up? that's too funny...

I need to grow up but you cant even put forth a few bullet points on why you are still loyal to ccp...

if your only goal is to convince people of your side of things instead of having an engaging and adult conversation on why or why not ccp still deserves our respect and loyalty

if you are of the mind set "if you don't see it my way you're wrong and a child"

if you have to resort to petty insult instead of either ignoring the thread all together or providing a relevant reply (perhaps due to lacking one?)

then I think you may need to take another look at who's maturity level has some catching up.

but please feel free to tell me why you think my OP is misguided if you have a valid argument and are also not afraid and mature enough for a rebuttal...or just throw more insults at me... your choice,


/throws lorhak the ball

Based on the sheer amount of vitriol you've spewed, I don't feel it's a worthwhile use of my time. If you'd like me to start working through some arguments, I will.

Expect them in a few hours; I start work in eleven minutes :)