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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:

Dust User wrote:

How are corps suppose to make the ISK to buy the new and improved 45,000,000 ISK clone pack?

And before someone chimes in with taxes, give me a break. It would take months to bring in that kind of ISK from taxes.

Snappy quick answer:

How long does it take a single player to earn 9 million (the price difference in clone pack) by grinding pubs using BPO gear? Are you really trying to make the case that corps suddenly have to spend months longer to get into PC? Give me a break.

Longer serious bizness answer:

How are corps (that are not in PC already) making the money for clone packs today? How has any corp ever made the isk needed to buy a clone pack before they actually had districts to print isk for them?

Remember, PC is high level content, and it should take some level of effort and time to prepare a corp to compete and enter Molden Heath to begin with. The fact that there's time and effort involved in ramping up towards PC (both financially and in troop training) isn't really a problem. Before I was in Onslaught I was a member of D3LTA FORC3, one of many corps early in the game's history that made a pointed effort to save isk because we knew PC was a personal goal for the corp. Charismatic leaders with a goal for the corp to work towards don't have any problem finding that isk.

Besides, the per-clone cost isn't being raised at all here, corps are just buying more clones at a time (giving them a greater margin in battle to win the initial attack with). We're really only talking about a 20% greater investment to buy a clone pack after all.

In terms of taxation - that means the difference between a 5% tax and a 6% tax. Or raising a 10% tax to 12%. This is quite reasonable to ask especially if it means the corp is able to provide content previously unavailable to its members. I'm confident that many corps will find the difference between participating in PC or not worthy of this slight additional investment.

Also - tax is hardly the only way to raise funds. 9 million isk today is fairly trivial and could easily be found by even a handful of small donations from individuals from within the corp. Again, corp leadership confident in their ability to win an attack and enter MH may even front this initially themselves, if it means greater income once the corp is in MH and fighting other corps regularly. I think you're dramatically underestimating the myriad ways that players can work around a clone pack cost bump to achieve their goals.


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Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 282	Posted - 2014.05.26 20:27:00 - [1] - Quote How are corps suppose to make the ISK to buy the new and improved 45,000,000 ISK clone pack? And before someone chimes in with taxes, give me a break. It would take months to bring in that kind of ISK from taxes.
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 282	Posted - 2014.05.27 11:07:00 - [2] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Dust User wrote: How are corps suppose to make the ISK to buy the new and improved 45,000,000 ISK clone pack? And before someone chimes in with taxes, give me a break. It would take months to bring in that kind of ISK from taxes. Snappy quick answer: How long does it take a single player to earn 9 million (the price difference in clone pack) by grinding pubs using BPO gear? Are you really trying to make the case that corps suddenly have to spend months longer to get into PC? Give me a break. Longer serious bizness answer: How are corps (that are not in PC already) making the money for clone packs today? How has any corp ever made the isk needed to buy a clone pack before they actually had districts to print isk for them? Remember, PC is high level content, and it should take some level of effort and time to prepare a corp to compete and enter Molden Heath to begin with. The fact that there's time and effort involved in ramping up towards PC (both financially and in troop training) isn't really a problem. Before I was in Onslaught I was a member of D3LTA FORC3, one of many corps early in the game's history that made a pointed effort to save isk because we knew PC was a personal goal for the corp. Charismatic leaders with a goal for the corp to work towards don't have any problem finding that isk. Besides, the per-clone cost isn't being raised at all here, corps are just buying more clones at a time (giving them a greater margin in battle to win the initial attack with). We're really only talking about a 20% greater investment to buy a clone pack after all. In terms of taxation - that means the difference between a 5% tax and a 6% tax. Or raising a 10% tax to 12%. This is quite reasonable to ask especially if it means the corp is able to provide content previously unavailable to its members. I'm confident that many corps will find the difference between participating in PC or not worthy of this slight additional investment. Also - tax is hardly the only way to raise funds. 9 million isk today is fairly trivial and could easily be found by even a handful of small donations from individuals from within the corp. Again, corp leadership confident in their ability to win an attack and enter MH may even front this initially themselves, if it means greater income once the corp is in MH and fighting other corps regularly. I think you're dramatically underestimating the myriad ways that players can work around a clone pack cost bump to achieve their goals. Fair points, we'll just have to wait and see how it all pans out.