DUST Search - Nerfing grenades again but

Harpyja wrote:

jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:

Harpyja wrote:

CCP is continuing to fail at balancing standard against proto. Proto is supposed to have only marginal benefits with high costs. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, barely any better but much mich much mire expensive, lol, not how balance should work.

There is NOTHING marginal about going from 250 damage to 650 damage. The rich players that can spam proto are only going to benefit, as they can afford proto while everyone else has to deal with inferior equipment because of ISK.

Either standard needs to be almost as effective as proto or proto needs a severe price cut to make it much more accessible to everyone, because right now proto is only in the hands of the rich.

I take it you're part of the 1% that can spam proto all day long and shoot down anyone that wants a more balanced fight.

It's not balanced if you can pay the ISK to gain the large benefits offered by proto (suits mostly, but now grenades as well).

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deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 559	Posted - 2014.05.24 12:49:00 - [1] - Quote REs continue to rain hell. Im fine with them being one hit kills but I the blast radius should be dropped from to 3.5 or 4. Even when you watch it being thrown at you and you jump backwards there is still time for them to detonate insta killing you. Yet grenades you have to cook for X amount of time and with the nerf they will not even take out a starter fit. Laser focused in a room full of mirrors. Everything you ever wanted coming SoonGäó just keep buying boosters.
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 290	Posted - 2014.05.24 13:04:00 - [2] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: REs continue to rain hell. Im fine with them being one hit kills but I the blast radius should be dropped from to 3.5 or 4. Even when you watch it being thrown at you and you jump backwards there is still time for them to detonate insta killing you. Yet grenades you have to cook for X amount of time and with the nerf they will not even take out a starter fit. Don't nerf my RE's... How else am i supposed to get those dang heavies off my back? Oh and if you see the RE being thrown and you still have no time to move then.... They are also pretty easy to spot.
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 269	Posted - 2014.05.24 13:15:00 - [3] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: deezy dabest wrote: REs continue to rain hell. Im fine with them being one hit kills but I the blast radius should be dropped from to 3.5 or 4. Even when you watch it being thrown at you and you jump backwards there is still time for them to detonate insta killing you. Yet grenades you have to cook for X amount of time and with the nerf they will not even take out a starter fit. Don't nerf my RE's... How else am i supposed to get those dang heavies off my back? Oh and if you see the RE being thrown and you still have no time to move then.... They are also pretty easy to spot. Except when they lag five metres closer to you than you thought they were. That one's always fun. MY ACTUAL NAME IS LORHAK It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
Dengar Skirata The Third Day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 105	Posted - 2014.05.24 16:39:00 - [4] - Quote As long as I can still use my jihad jeep, I wouldn't be opposed to reducing the blast radius. After all jihad jeeps are the only things that can stop an all out tank stomp. You were the chosen one, CCP! It was said that you would create a great game, not destroy one!
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 386	Posted - 2014.05.24 19:05:00 - [5] - Quote I guess the butthurt from grenade spam circa 1.0-1.5 has finally trickled into CCP's ear. Good job, tards. We're over it now. Leave my grenades alone. They're supposed to OHK everything - they're ***** grenades. Wanna with explosives? Fix Proxies. ***** carebear coddling bullshit... PSN: The_Rynoceros Destiny = Biomass Console Master Race
Benjamin Ciscko The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 2278	Posted - 2014.05.24 19:39:00 - [6] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: REs continue to rain hell. Im fine with them being one hit kills but I the blast radius should be dropped from to 3.5 or 4. Even when you watch it being thrown at you and you jump backwards there is still time for them to detonate insta killing you. Yet grenades you have to cook for X amount of time and with the nerf they will not even take out a starter fit. RE's aren't anywhere near effective as grenades on open maps, nades on the other hand are effective everywhere + they can be cooked to explode on contact can be thrown farther and more accurately. RE's are really good in cities but no where near as effective and all purpose as nades and don't really need a tweak. Tanker/Logi
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1762	Posted - 2014.05.24 19:53:00 - [7] - Quote CCP is continuing to fail at balancing standard against proto. Proto is supposed to have only marginal benefits with high costs. There is NOTHING marginal about going from 250 damage to 650 damage. The rich players that can spam proto are only going to benefit, as they can afford proto while everyone else has to deal with inferior equipment because of ISK. Either standard needs to be almost as effective as proto or proto needs a severe price cut to make it much more accessible to everyone, because right now proto is only in the hands of the rich. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 2126	Posted - 2014.05.24 20:24:00 - [8] - Quote Vehicules can withstand salvos after salvos composed of 6 f****** anti-vehicular rockets... So a silly little grenade shouldn't be able to seriously harm an infantry, right? My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Cat Merc, Long Evity, DeadlyAztec11 and Sinboto Simmons.
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1525	Posted - 2014.05.24 22:02:00 - [9] - Quote Harpyja wrote: CCP is continuing to fail at balancing standard against proto. Proto is supposed to have only marginal benefits with high costs. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, barely any better but much mich much mire expensive, lol, not how balance should work. There is NOTHING marginal about going from 250 damage to 650 damage. The rich players that can spam proto are only going to benefit, as they can afford proto while everyone else has to deal with inferior equipment because of ISK. Either standard needs to be almost as effective as proto or proto needs a severe price cut to make it much more accessible to everyone, because right now proto is only in the hands of the rich. Closed beta vet.
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1762	Posted - 2014.05.24 22:43:00 - [10] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Harpyja wrote: CCP is continuing to fail at balancing standard against proto. Proto is supposed to have only marginal benefits with high costs. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, barely any better but much mich much mire expensive, lol, not how balance should work. There is NOTHING marginal about going from 250 damage to 650 damage. The rich players that can spam proto are only going to benefit, as they can afford proto while everyone else has to deal with inferior equipment because of ISK. Either standard needs to be almost as effective as proto or proto needs a severe price cut to make it much more accessible to everyone, because right now proto is only in the hands of the rich. I take it you're part of the 1% that can spam proto all day long and shoot down anyone that wants a more balanced fight. It's not balanced if you can pay the ISK to gain the large benefits offered by proto (suits mostly, but now grenades as well). "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32

J0LLY R0G3R Legion Alpha Tester 835	Posted - 2014.05.24 22:58:00 - [11] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: REs continue to rain hell. Im fine with them being one hit kills but I the blast radius should be dropped from to 3.5 or 4. Even when you watch it being thrown at you and you jump backwards there is still time for them to detonate insta killing you. Yet grenades you have to cook for X amount of time and with the nerf they will not even take out a starter fit. XD silly XD PS4 psn = J0LLYxR0G3R Underscore before and after the x
Michael Arck 4513	Posted - 2014.05.24 23:00:00 - [12] - Quote Harpyja wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Harpyja wrote: CCP is continuing to fail at balancing standard against proto. Proto is supposed to have only marginal benefits with high costs. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, barely any better but much mich much mire expensive, lol, not how balance should work. There is NOTHING marginal about going from 250 damage to 650 damage. The rich players that can spam proto are only going to benefit, as they can afford proto while everyone else has to deal with inferior equipment because of ISK. Either standard needs to be almost as effective as proto or proto needs a severe price cut to make it much more accessible to everyone, because right now proto is only in the hands of the rich. I take it you're part of the 1% that can spam proto all day long and shoot down anyone that wants a more balanced fight. It's not balanced if you can pay the ISK to gain the large benefits offered by proto (suits mostly, but now grenades as well). You say that as if matches are wall to wall with prototypes. Novice players gets stomped by your corp even when your guys come out in ADV gear Is that advanced stomping? To beat prototypes, to beat anything in this game, involves some brains and teamwork. Two things that escapes most when they play this game. Then they come here to the forums and cry about protostomping. But I bet you, they didn't concentrate fire on the proto with other blues. They didn't cover somebody's six. No, they just want to be the lone star hero with a high KDR at the top of the leaderboards. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
lunatis orrak Band of The Hawkx Lokun Listamenn 25	Posted - 2014.05.24 23:09:00 - [13] - Quote Theres an easy fix for re's make them a plantable equipment should of been done long ago the ability to throw tgem makes a militia scout with basic re's a killchamp but it will never happen my best advise to you is to plant them yourself CHUBBY CHASER FOR LIFE `!BEWARE MY FAT BULLDOGS! The leash is not for your protection`
End is Near Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 80	Posted - 2014.05.24 23:27:00 - [14] - Quote I am a MASTER of Re's. Got a logi that has 16..... The BEST way to FIX them is make them have a longer time to become active (additional 5 seconds seems fair). This will have no effect on lav vs tank. I NORMALY only pull them out when my team is being massed murdered with Re's. They seem to get the point after I kill 30 of them. It only takes about 2-3 seconds to detonate now.
deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 559	Posted - 2014.05.25 00:58:00 - [15] - Quote End is Near wrote: I am a MASTER of Re's. Got a logi that has 16..... The BEST way to FIX them is make them have a longer time to become active (additional 5 seconds seems fair). This will have no effect on lav vs tank. I NORMALY only pull them out when my team is being massed murdered with Re's. They seem to get the point after I kill 30 of them. It only takes about 2-3 seconds to detonate now. I could get behind this as well. That may be a better solution than a blast radius change. Laser focused in a room full of mirrors. Everything you ever wanted coming SoonGäó just keep buying boosters.
lunatis orrak Band of The Hawkx Lokun Listamenn 25	Posted - 2014.05.25 01:04:00 - [16] - Quote End is Near wrote: I am a MASTER of Re's. Got a logi that has 16..... The BEST way to FIX them is make them have a longer time to become active (additional 5 seconds seems fair). This will have no effect on lav vs tank. I NORMALY only pull them out when my team is being massed murdered with Re's. They seem to get the point after I kill 30 of them. It only takes about 2-3 seconds to detonate now. Thanks for your personal opinion just a question, how would this do anything at all? The only differance would be you might not get the one guy that might have been paying attention enough to see it drop CHUBBY CHASER FOR LIFE `!BEWARE MY FAT BULLDOGS! The leash is not for your protection`
Tectonic Fusion 1672	Posted - 2014.05.25 01:56:00 - [17] - Quote End is Near wrote: I am a MASTER of Re's. Got a logi that has 16..... The BEST way to FIX them is make them have a longer time to become active (additional 5 seconds seems fair). This will have no effect on lav vs tank. I NORMALY only pull them out when my team is being massed murdered with Re's. They seem to get the point after I kill 30 of them. It only takes about 2-3 seconds to detonate now. I think they should instead add a timed bomb.


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