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Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 918	Posted - 2014.05.24 01:34:00 - [1] - Quote Speed penalties being increased. Amarr assault suits bout to be slower than freking heavies.
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 465	Posted - 2014.05.24 02:34:00 - [2] - Quote Say what now? D: Nova Knives are magic~ -Inserts knife into nearest merc's spinal column- And now, so are you! Bask in the magics!
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1276	Posted - 2014.05.24 02:36:00 - [3] - Quote Inb4 use the proper thread
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3218	Posted - 2014.05.24 03:08:00 - [4] - Quote Looks at the Gallente armory The grass is looking an awful lot prettier for some reason... Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1756	Posted - 2014.05.24 03:45:00 - [5] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Speed penalties being increased. Amarr assault suits bout to be slower than freking heavies. I was thinking the same thing when I read the notes. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3418	Posted - 2014.05.24 04:21:00 - [6] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Speed penalties being increased. Amarr assault suits bout to be slower than freking heavies. Lovely. It's pretty much a semi-mobile laser turret as it is for f*cks sake. Quitting cold turkey was impossible. The forum patch is helping me kick the habit! See you in Destiny psn: bobswerski
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1756	Posted - 2014.05.24 04:44:00 - [7] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Speed penalties being increased. Amarr assault suits bout to be slower than freking heavies. Lovely. It's pretty much a semi-mobile laser turret as it is for f*cks sake. Doesn't help the fact that the laser beam (much more so for laser rifles than scrambler rifles) allows enemies to easily trace the bright beam back to the origin and the shooter. Nothing like shooting at one person in a group and then a second later having half a dozen rifles aimed at and running towards you, at which point I try to finish off the target as quickly as possible and begin running for my life. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 259	Posted - 2014.05.24 05:01:00 - [8] - Quote pls buff Amarr Mediums, CPP :( My Assault and Logi are spending all my ISK on tissues to mop up their tears as it is :( OH WELL. MY CALSCOUT WILL BE FINE. MY ACTUAL NAME IS LORHAK It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
Vitharr Foebane Heaven's Lost Property 1249	Posted - 2014.05.24 09:10:00 - [9] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Speed penalties being increased. Amarr assault suits bout to be slower than freking heavies. Amarr "scouts" already slower then assaults? F*ck it let's mak em slower... Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 13697	Posted - 2014.05.24 10:51:00 - [10] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Looks at the Gallente armory The grass is looking an awful lot prettier for some reason... You realise they're getting the increased speed penalties too, right? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Cross Atu for CPM1

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 9893	Posted - 2014.05.24 11:07:00 - [11] - Quote Alright, so let me get this straight. Gallente are going to finally start using Ferroscale plates, which means a MUCH lower HP ceiling, while the normal armor plates fit Amarr like a glove (Base speed means that speed penalties don't affect you as much). In fact, you can brick much better than before! You can use three plates and one repairer and that will be a ferocious suit. Couple that with the slot increase to the Amarr Assault and arguably the best bonus, and the Amarr Assault looks better than ever. And you're complaining? Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3420	Posted - 2014.05.24 13:45:00 - [12] - Quote Harpyja wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Speed penalties being increased. Amarr assault suits bout to be slower than freking heavies. Lovely. It's pretty much a semi-mobile laser turret as it is for f*cks sake. Doesn't help the fact that the laser beam (much more so for laser rifles than scrambler rifles) allows enemies to easily trace the bright beam back to the origin and the shooter. Nothing like shooting at one person in a group and then a second later having half a dozen rifles aimed at and running towards you, at which point I try to finish off the target as quickly as possible and begin running for my life, which seems will only get more difficult to do with an increase on my movement penalty. I feel your pain, brother. Quitting cold turkey was impossible. The forum patch is helping me kick the habit! See you in Destiny psn: bobswerski
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 925	Posted - 2014.05.24 14:06:00 - [13] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Alright, so let me get this straight. Gallente are going to finally start using Ferroscale plates because they're viable and Gallente weaponry requires fast speed to use, which means a MUCH lower HP ceiling, while the normal armor plates fit Amarr like a glove (Base speed means that speed penalties don't affect you as much and long range weaponry making speed less of a factor). In fact, you can brick much better than before! You can use three plates and one repairer (Since repairers got buffed) and that will be a ferocious suit. Couple that with the slot increase to the Amarr Assault and arguably the best assault bonus, and the Amarr Assault looks better than ever. And you're complaining? ScR isn't a really good weapon. When facing a heavy you are dead because even with my proto Assault and damage mods and Pro 4, I overheat trying to kill a armor tanked Militia heavy with prototype Viziam. ScR needs love, ScP needs Rof Buff.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 925	Posted - 2014.05.24 14:10:00 - [14] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Alright, so let me get this straight. Gallente are going to finally start using Ferroscale plates because they're viable and Gallente weaponry requires fast speed to use, which means a MUCH lower HP ceiling, while the normal armor plates fit Amarr like a glove (Base speed means that speed penalties don't affect you as much and long range weaponry making speed less of a factor). In fact, you can brick much better than before! You can use three plates and one repairer (Since repairers got buffed) and that will be a ferocious suit. Couple that with the slot increase to the Amarr Assault and arguably the best assault bonus, and the Amarr Assault looks better than ever. And you're complaining? My current PROTO Ak.0 runs 6.3 m/s sprint 4.8 walk and that's with with two complex plates, what is next?? 5.9 m/s? I also got a minmitar heavy running 7.7 m/s. What's the problem? Minmitar heavy has more EHP than me, runs faster than me,walks faster than me, recharges stamina faster than me and carries the the lowest TTK weapon in the game. Hmmmm...
castba Penguin's March 445	Posted - 2014.05.24 14:22:00 - [15] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Speed penalties being increased. Amarr assault suits bout to be slower than freking heavies. So use ferroscale plates?
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 925	Posted - 2014.05.24 14:33:00 - [16] - Quote castba wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Speed penalties being increased. Amarr assault suits bout to be slower than freking heavies. So use ferroscale plates? Yes let me fill my Amarr Assault's slots with ferroscales then I will have a total of 440 armor... Hmm, 440 armor and still running at 7.2 m/s, still slower than my minmitar heavy. "well use sprint mods" Yess, let me use one of my 3 low slots for a kin cats. Yep now with my proto suit left with 2 slots use one complex repair and one complex Quote: ferroscale and now I run at 8/s with 380 armor, huge hitbox, and 8 repair rate. How useful right?
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 8831	Posted - 2014.05.24 14:38:00 - [17] - Quote Amarr Dropsuits aren't really suited for flankers, and seem to have a focus around point defense. You don't really need speed anyways. HvLP Spreadsheet Warrior Why Do Slayers Get All The Credit? :( -HAND
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 9900	Posted - 2014.05.24 14:50:00 - [18] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Alright, so let me get this straight. Gallente are going to finally start using Ferroscale plates because they're viable and Gallente weaponry requires fast speed to use, which means a MUCH lower HP ceiling, while the normal armor plates fit Amarr like a glove (Base speed means that speed penalties don't affect you as much and long range weaponry making speed less of a factor). In fact, you can brick much better than before! You can use three plates and one repairer (Since repairers got buffed) and that will be a ferocious suit. Couple that with the slot increase to the Amarr Assault and arguably the best assault bonus, and the Amarr Assault looks better than ever. And you're complaining? ScR isn't a really good weapon. When facing a heavy you are dead because even with my proto Assault and damage mods and Pro 4, I overheat trying to kill a armor tanked Militia heavy with prototype Viziam. ScR needs love, ScP needs Rof Buff. SCR is a hair short of being overpowered. It's an excellent weapon, it's only downfall is that it's weak against armor bricking. And oh look at that, it's being fixed. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 8831	Posted - 2014.05.24 14:51:00 - [19] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Yes let me fill my Amarr Assault's slots with ferroscales then I will have a total of 440 armor... Hmm, 440 armor and still running at 7.2 m/s, still slower than my minmitar heavy. "well use sprint mods" Yess, let me use one of my 3 low slots for a kin cats. Yep now with my proto suit left with 2 slots use one complex repair and one complex Quote: ferroscale and now I run at 8/s with 380 armor, huge hitbox, and 8 repair rate. How useful right? I'm fairly certain that he didn't mean fill your entire suit with Ferroscale Plating. I've just made a fit that has a Ferroscale, yet still has 920 eHP, and can even push out 70HP/s reps when needed. You don't need speed on an Amarr Assault, in the same sense that you don't need eHP on a Minmatar Assault. My fitting seems very useful, though has a large focus on Point Defense. HvLP Spreadsheet Warrior Why Do Slayers Get All The Credit? :( -HAND
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 9900	Posted - 2014.05.24 14:51:00 - [20] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Alright, so let me get this straight. Gallente are going to finally start using Ferroscale plates because they're viable and Gallente weaponry requires fast speed to use, which means a MUCH lower HP ceiling, while the normal armor plates fit Amarr like a glove (Base speed means that speed penalties don't affect you as much and long range weaponry making speed less of a factor). In fact, you can brick much better than before! You can use three plates and one repairer (Since repairers got buffed) and that will be a ferocious suit. Couple that with the slot increase to the Amarr Assault and arguably the best assault bonus, and the Amarr Assault looks better than ever. And you're complaining? My current PROTO Ak.0 runs 6.3 m/s sprint 4.8 walk and that's with with two complex plates, what is next?? 5.9 m/s? I also got a minmitar heavy running 7.7 m/s. What's the problem? Minmitar heavy has more EHP than me, runs faster than me,walks faster than me, recharges stamina faster than me and carries the the lowest TTK weapon in the game. Hmmmm... This is true for everything. The MLT Minnie Sentinel is pretty much better than my PRO Gallente Assault in every way possible. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC

Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 8831	Posted - 2014.05.24 14:52:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: SCR is a hair short of being overpowered. It's an excellent weapon, it's only downfall is that it's weak against armor bricking. And oh look at that, it's being fixed. They're adjusting the Scrambler Rifle? Link? HvLP Spreadsheet Warrior Why Do Slayers Get All The Credit? :( -HAND
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 925	Posted - 2014.05.24 14:55:00 - [22] - Quote Atiim wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Yes let me fill my Amarr Assault's slots with ferroscales then I will have a total of 440 armor... Hmm, 440 armor and still running at 7.2 m/s, still slower than my minmitar heavy. "well use sprint mods" Yess, let me use one of my 3 low slots for a kin cats. Yep now with my proto suit left with 2 slots use one complex repair and one complex Quote: ferroscale and now I run at 8/s with 380 armor, huge hitbox, and 8 repair rate. How useful right? I'm fairly certain that he didn't mean fill your entire suit with Ferroscale Plating. I've just made a fit that has a Ferroscale, yet still has 920 eHP, and can even push out 70HP/s reps when needed. You don't need speed on an Amarr Assault, in the same sense that you don't need eHP on a Minmatar Assault. My fitting seems very useful, though has a large focus on Point Defense. And now you have no repairs. The Wiki hive can only do so much for you. 6.6 m/s is still 1.1 m/s slower sprint than my minni heavy.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 8831	Posted - 2014.05.24 15:05:00 - [23] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: And now you have no repairs. The Wiki hive can only do so much for you. 6.6 m/s is still 1.1 m/s slower sprint than my minni heavy. They can actually do lots for you when you can carry 3, have 2 active, and have 67 Nanite Clusters each. The only weakness it has is the Flux Grenade. Though you can carry 3 Nanohives, and they only have 2 Flux Grenades, meaning you'll still out-last them. Not really sure what the problem is with you being slower than a Matari Frame. If your finding your low speed to be an issue, change suits. HvLP Spreadsheet Warrior Why Do Slayers Get All The Credit? :( -HAND
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 925	Posted - 2014.05.24 15:06:00 - [24] - Quote Atiim wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: And now you have no repairs. The Wiki hive can only do so much for you. 6.6 m/s is still 1.1 m/s slower sprint than my minni heavy. They can actually do lots for you when you can carry 3, have 2 active, and have 67 Nanite Clusters each. The only weakness it has is the Flux Grenade. Though you can carry 3 Nanohives, and they only have 2 Flux Grenades, meaning you'll still out-last them. Not really sure what the problem is with you being slower than a Matari Frame. If your finding your low speed to be an issue, change suits. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/549/4558 better long range defense.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 925	Posted - 2014.05.24 15:08:00 - [25] - Quote Atiim wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: And now you have no repairs. The Wiki hive can only do so much for you. 6.6 m/s is still 1.1 m/s slower sprint than my minni heavy. They can actually do lots for you when you can carry 3, have 2 active, and have 67 Nanite Clusters each. The only weakness it has is the Flux Grenade. Though you can carry 3 Nanohives, and they only have 2 Flux Grenades, meaning you'll still out-last them. Not really sure what the problem is with you being slower than a Matari Frame. If your finding your low speed to be an issue, change suits. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/549/4558 better long range defense. more EHP, shield recharge is good. and you can switch weapon with HMG, KIN cat with complex rep. This fit is 31k isk compared to you 140k isk + fit.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 925	Posted - 2014.05.24 15:13:00 - [26] - Quote Atiim wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: And now you have no repairs. The Wiki hive can only do so much for you. 6.6 m/s is still 1.1 m/s slower sprint than my minni heavy. They can actually do lots for you when you can carry 3, have 2 active, and have 67 Nanite Clusters each. The only weakness it has is the Flux Grenade. Though you can carry 3 Nanohives, and they only have 2 Flux Grenades, meaning you'll still out-last them. Not really sure what the problem is with you being slower than a Matari Frame. If your finding your low speed to be an issue, change suits. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/549/4560 16k isk fit. requires about 1 million sp.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 9901	Posted - 2014.05.24 16:14:00 - [27] - Quote Atiim wrote: Cat Merc wrote: SCR is a hair short of being overpowered. It's an excellent weapon, it's only downfall is that it's weak against armor bricking. And oh look at that, it's being fixed. They're adjusting the Scrambler Rifle? Link? Nah, they're fixing armor bricking. You can still brick, but it will be a lot less appealing. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2654	Posted - 2014.05.24 16:16:00 - [28] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Looks at the Gallente armory The grass is looking an awful lot prettier for some reason... You realise they're getting the increased speed penalties too, right? Gallente armor rep tank. Most don't because it hasn't been reliable ala TRIPLE REP MADRUGAR.


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