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Phoenix 85
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.23 18:32:00 -
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I know alot of things are being looked at currently, but any change you could bring up or look into minmatar tanking. I feel like the min suits should have a lower recharge delay than caldari, just makes sense if minmatar is supposed to be weak HP hit and run.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:01:00 -
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I support the idea that Caldari shield tanking should be geared towards higher HP values than Minmatar and Minmatar having higher regen rates (also possibly lower delays).
I've always thought that all the races should have their own flavour of tanking, rather than just 'armour' or 'shield'.
Amarr: Buffer armour tanking Caldari: Buffer shield tanking Gallente: Active armour tanking Minmatar: Active shield tanking
That kind of thing, with the shield/armour having a little more skew of high HP or high regen.
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Phoenix 85
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:03:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I support the idea that Caldari shield tanking should be geared towards higher HP values than Minmatar and Minmatar having higher regen rates (also possibly lower delays).
I've always thought that all the races should have their own flavour of tanking, rather than just 'armour' or 'shield'.
Amarr: Buffer armour tanking Caldari: Buffer shield tanking Gallente: Active armour tanking Minmatar: Active shield tanking
That kind of thing, with the shield/armour having a little more skew of high HP or high regen.
This is exactly what I've been talking about for the past 2 years.
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1546
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:13:00 -
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Phoenix 85 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I support the idea that Caldari shield tanking should be geared towards higher HP values than Minmatar and Minmatar having higher regen rates (also possibly lower delays).
I've always thought that all the races should have their own flavour of tanking, rather than just 'armour' or 'shield'.
Amarr: Buffer armour tanking Caldari: Buffer shield tanking Gallente: Active armour tanking Minmatar: Active shield tanking
That kind of thing, with the shield/armour having a little more skew of high HP or high regen. This is exactly what I've been talking about for the past 2 years. Same here.
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TechMechMeds
KLEENEX INC.
3430
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Posted - 2014.05.23 21:27:00 -
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Yes.
I run a complex reactive plate and a shield reg with shields and energizer on my min assault and feel like i should really be putting two full plates.
Need that caldari regen.
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bogeyman m
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
214
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Posted - 2014.05.24 16:08:00 -
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Bump.
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bogeyman m
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
214
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Posted - 2014.05.24 16:09:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I support the idea that Caldari shield tanking should be geared towards higher HP values than Minmatar and Minmatar having higher regen rates (also possibly lower delays).
I've always thought that all the races should have their own flavour of tanking, rather than just 'armour' or 'shield'.
Amarr: Buffer armour tanking Caldari: Buffer shield tanking Gallente: Active armour tanking Minmatar: Active shield tanking
That kind of thing, with the shield/armour having a little more skew of high HP or high regen.
THIS.
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Zatara Rought
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.24 16:11:00 -
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I completely support this.
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Phoenix 85
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.25 22:42:00 -
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bump
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Phoenix 85
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.11 16:32:00 -
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bump part 2
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bogeyman m
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
267
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Posted - 2014.06.14 22:07:00 -
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Bump
Duct tape 2.0 ... Have WD-40; will travel.
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Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
585
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Posted - 2014.06.14 22:16:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Amarr: Buffer armour tanking Caldari: Buffer shield tanking Gallente: Active armour tanking Minmatar: Active shield tanking Everyone seems to have had something like this in mind yet somehow nobody at CCP cared to implement it. I wonder what Dust 514's design document looks like... |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
70
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Posted - 2014.06.15 01:29:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I support the idea that Caldari shield tanking should be geared towards higher HP values than Minmatar and Minmatar having higher regen rates (also possibly lower delays).
I've always thought that all the races should have their own flavour of tanking, rather than just 'armour' or 'shield'.
Amarr: Buffer armour tanking Caldari: Buffer shield tanking Gallente: Active armour tanking Minmatar: Active shield tanking
That kind of thing, with the shield/armour having a little more skew of high HP or high regen.
minmatar have always been the middle ground balanced yet fastest of the other races.. i think they need a movment speed buff and then they will be in their seat as their shield tank is fairly secent and 2nd to caldari.. their armor tank isnt bad either its perhaps 2nd or 3rd ranked.. so generally id say an over all 2nd or 3rd so its not bad but not great either..
Amarr/gallente - armor buffer/active.. situational but overall much higher EHP at the end result either way.
Caldari - shield buffer but also moduals to speed up recharge speed/amount
minmatar - id say its mixed tank (the EVE player in me Abhors mixed tank) they NEED the innate shield recharge which is right behind caldari (note hotfix bravo for shield modual buffs) and enough low slots to have some armor buffer and a repper so you got the breathign space to get out of harms way with your SPEED to let your armor repair and shield regen..
- downside of minmatar is it is the lowest EHP of all 4 races.. maybe a little shield and armor hp buff and a more noticeable speed buff might make them look pleasant again.. especially nonvaknife hacker minmatar scouts
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
657
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Posted - 2014.06.15 17:22:00 -
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i think all the races tanking styles are fairly well defined as the game is now but the modules need some tweeking rather than the suits. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Red Whines.
707
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Posted - 2014.06.15 17:30:00 -
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Phoenix 85 wrote:I know alot of things are being looked at currently, but any change you could bring up or look into minmatar tanking. I feel like the min suits should have a lower recharge delay than caldari, just makes sense if minmatar is supposed to be weak HP hit and run.
Minmatarr tanking style is dodging, have you seen Minmatarr strafing ? This is hell to kill. Maybe a higher "walking speed" could help ? (Strafing is walking speed which can't be upgraded by mods) |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1486
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Posted - 2014.06.15 21:38:00 -
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I am Mobius Kaethis and I support this idea.
Fun > Realism
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Lynn Beck
NoGameNoLife
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Posted - 2014.06.15 21:41:00 -
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I'm more in favor of Caldari having lower delays, but significantly lower rates, as this supports their high Ehp nature- steadily regen HP.
Minmatar i'm in favor of having hugher delays(like 1 second) and +15-20/s regen.
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