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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.23 09:55:00 -
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Seriously, every stats you'll see, Amarr is WAYYYYYYY behind, the last, the less used, the less powerful....And the Race with the less stuff.
WHY ?
We received 30hp in Exchange of 5% speed penality.....WTF ? it's not even a bonus it's a native nerf...... You nerfed Armor plates, okay so what Amarr are supposed to use, they were the worst suits, and now they are even worse ? Gallente still better brick tanking than us, while being faster, with hp/regen lower Scan profile.... We have the biggest suits, (bigger hitbox i think)..
How Amarr is supposed to be competitive with the worst values of all stats exepting...Stamina, which is useless when you are slow as hell ?
When are you going to understand than it's NOT because the base ehp of the suit is bigger (30ehp..whoa) than the suit once fitted will NOT have the biggest ehp ?
Gallente sentinel is brick tanking bettter than Amarr ? WTF ?
First : - Bring at least the equivalent of an ADV plate ehp for Amarr suits. (We have 5% speed nerf which is an advanced plate, why we have half of an STD ? ) - EVERY Amarr suit should have way more Armor ehp than Gallente ONCE FITTED. - Bring Armor plates to a %. - Bring equality to Amarr slots. They should have more Armor slots than gallente (And less high slots). - An Amarr suit should have native Overheat reduction. 10% would be good. Amarr weapons are the ONLY one that have lethal drawbacks and punitive system.... Amarr suits are not just Amarr assaults. -Reduce PG cost of ScR, 11PG on STD is a joke, it's bigger than Proto weapons of other races.... |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.23 12:35:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Wait, no, that's only true for the assault suits.... Scratch that.
Though it would make sense.
Yep, almost
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.23 12:37:00 -
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Balamob wrote:While i agree in most of your post, we also have to consider that when amarr reaches lvl 5 on dropsuit armor upgrades (25% or armor basic HP) you will have 50 hp more than gallente meduim that also has that at lvl 5 for example (which is still less than a basic armor plate), they should add a low slot to all amarr suits, that would be more efficient, to give us an innate plate would be OP in my opinion, more if we get that bonus before sepnding ponts on the skill previously mentioned. Most of you perspective is right, i like the PG reduction idea of the amarr SR but about the 10% heat reduction would be a mark that only SR is for amarr (which sounds logical) but not sure about this beain a good idea, they should have lowered the heat built up in general after the increase of TTK, at least a little bit.
So... having a free basic plate would be OP for you ? So why we have an Advanced plate PENALITY ? I can't understand.
Choice one : Free advanced plate + advanced plate penality. Free 30 hp + NO penality. Seems logic ?
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.23 15:34:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:TheD1CK wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:We know that Amarr needs some love, please have patience. We can't do everything at once. They have the highest fitting available, decent starting HP, High stamina all at the cost of reduced speed ^^ thats 3 pro's with 1 con There weaponry isn't spammed as often as other racial variants, as the Amarr weapons take skilled shooting They are not as easy spammed as CR/PR yet in combat they can take down any of their racial counterparts Basically what I am saying is beware... The parity between suits is closer that forum whiners would claim What we have now in Dust is suits that perform better in different situations and in terms of killing power The Amarr are in a good place, always have been but too many players repeatedly asking for buffs is a joke Variety is a good thing, if we pigeon-hole all of Dust514's niche classes then we might as well play BF4 We are hoping that with these changes, shields might get more popular and with it scramblers/lasers and with it Amarr dropsuits. We also will be taking a look at shields. That's the idea at least
It don't makes any sense. Amarr is an Armor suits, the worst of the other suits, check your numbers and tell me how Amarr is supposed to be competitive. With recent Armor nerf to Shield buff, that's even worse for Amarr which is an Armor tanker.
D1CK Amarr have the biggest fitting ? Amarr Assault is NOT all the Amarr suits. And when you have no slot and a weapons that takes 11PG at STD 16 at ADV and 20 at PRO you DON'T have a big fitting possibility. At the contrary.
Decent starting ehp ? WHAT ? 30hp more ? At the end once fitted EVERY suit in this game have more ehp than Amarr and you know it, what the point about having more starting ehp if once fitted you have the less ? Nobody play with unfitted suit.
Stmaina ? What the point of stmaina when you're slow ? Graphics showed it, all the suits in this game goes faster and longer than Amarr.
You're just telling wrong facts. Check your numbers. You just proved Amarr have no pro exept an useless stamina. You forgot we have bigger hitbox, no strafe possibility.
Amarr weapons are not used not because of skillcap, but because you just can't fit these weapons, they overheat, have the lowest DPS, the lowest damage per mag (overheat) and the worst damag profile.
Amarr is the worst place in dust since more than a year. You're just a Minmatarr ****** who will always find an excuse to buff Minmatarr....
"Variety ?" Then ok, CCP please remove 20% speed for minmatarr, and make their weapons takes 50 PG for STD, higher their hitbox by 15%, nerf their guns by 10 DMG per shot and finally remove one of their slots, for "Variety". You don't like it ? This is what Amarr is. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.23 16:19:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Well, nice rage posting... but do you see where I asked for a buff ..??? The Irony that the one using an UP suit is not QQing, just responding hoping CCP see through The transparency of your posting and see that you have been begging for a crutch for months My allegiance to race in Dust is purely because players like you, act like you deserve more than others.. And as for your QQ .. I'm slow... Go find yourself a minnine assault in a mimic of your Amarr fit.... Have a nice little 100m sprint and see how far behind you are.... not much... yet here you are QQing You want to turn this into a Suit argument.... It makes me sick that the Matari suits are all clearly UP and excel at nothing another suit can't do better ^^ Despite our Scout... which a scannable Nova Knifer is Soooo Scary Yet despite this, Amarr ''Buff'' threads appear in most pages on the Forum... Personally, I want a balanced game thats even/enjoyable for both sides... But forum whiners will have their way if they keep at it for months on end, as you are I posted a counter to your post, yet you just attack me as your are a keyboard warrior, Thank god some of the Amarr players are decent people, you sir are not one of them Sorry if i seems...well a bit raging against oyu or your ideas, it's not the case. But you bring facts, wrong facts. Like it was real thing, well not. And you keep defending them, after i proved you you were wrong.
Amarr deserve something it's true, tell me the last time we received love ? Tell me how much stuff we have in this game ? Tell me the last time you saw an OP Amarr, just tell me WHEN ? When did you see a good player slaying everything with an Amarr dropsuits (Heavy don't count, they were the only heavy.).
How can you expect "balance" when 1 race is totally underdog since a year and more ? Look the FW.
Exepting you, everybody is okay with the fact Amarr is the worst in every part, Weapons / suits . Deserved some love. At the contrary we're getting nerfed, again and again, the Armor plates nerf was needed, but is there something to compensate for US pure Amarr brick tanker ? No.
Minmatarr Assault can strafe and is almost as fast as our scout. Just take a look. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.23 16:36:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Mordecai... I'm willing to put all aside if you can My posts are probably the vice versa of me reading yours... so we are likely to argue Which is healthy as no one should have their opinion here go un-checked by opposing views Just please note ALL the facts in future, your suit is not the only one with drawbacks... The Matari are short on love as it is, the CR nerf which is needed will in turn nerf all Matari fits.. You see the issue here ^ our suits barely last 5 seconds in a fire-fight... so the CR putting someone down In that time frame was 100% necessary .... I'm not saying it shouldn't be nerfed, as it is OP But by removing its ability to quickly deal with targets, makes that 5 second survival time a lot tougher I do apologize for being argumentative, but reading your one-sided post hurt my Matari eye And as a gesture of good faith, I would like to run a few games with you this evening to see How a combo of our race's fittings perform in combat ... If interested, leave me a mail in-game
Agree, we maybe gone too far
Well a 2% damage nerf is....almost nothing. The CR damage profile is... Okay, i'll try ;) |
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