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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2014.05.24 19:57:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:I don't understand why infantry doesn't quit there whining, skill into AV, and take us out themselves.
FFS, one match ONE GUY with standard swarms kept me from getting kills because even though he didn't do enough damage to kill me, he did enough damage to scare me away, while he was hiding in a spot that is inconvenient for me to try to kill him.
Skill into forges or swarms, quit crying like little babies, if you think it's so easy to steamroll in an ADS why don't you try it?
Oh yeah that's right, cause it's not easy.
As for prices on vehicles, as long as there are double damage mod sicas that can two hit my 500k ISK Maddy I think the price is fair. Oh, and Jihad Jeeps too. you must be trolling. No. I have experience in both sides of the coin. I have proto tanks on one character, and proto AV on another. In my experience, tanks are super easy to kill with a proto forge if you get the high ground, and the same goes for the ADS'. People just don't want to take the time to skill into such weapons and learn to train them like I have learned to tank effectively after six months of tanking. I cannot take you seriously if you honestly think infantry vs AV is balanced.
I've been trying AV for awhile and have stated this before , when tanks aren't a problem, killing tanks isn't a problem. When tanks are a problem, killing them is a problem.
A pair of decent tankers working together can defeat a squad of AV, a good tanker with infantry support can stop AV dead. Yes, if your infantry controls the field killing tanks isn't hard, but if they don't it is.
I would love it if they could have an AV/vehicle event so we could see how it looks when everyone is motivated to kill tanks., because that is one of the issues. If you run AV gear and vehicles don"t show up you completely gimped yourself, so there is even less incentive to run it. So it is a complicated equation, but it is still clearly in the tankers favor.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2014.05.24 20:00:00 -
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killian178 wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:I don't understand why infantry doesn't quit there whining, skill into AV, and take us out themselves.
FFS, one match ONE GUY with standard swarms kept me from getting kills because even though he didn't do enough damage to kill me, he did enough damage to scare me away, while he was hiding in a spot that is inconvenient for me to try to kill him.
Skill into forges or swarms, quit crying like little babies, if you think it's so easy to steamroll in an ADS why don't you try it?
Oh yeah that's right, cause it's not easy.
As for prices on vehicles, as long as there are double damage mod sicas that can two hit my 500k ISK Maddy I think the price is fair. Oh, and Jihad Jeeps too. you must be trolling. No,that's a legitimate statement. My ads fit is about 600k isk, 700k gunnlogi. Cheap tanks get squished easy, but that's kinda the point. Yes AV is UP but any, I mean ANY tank or ads can be taking out, solo even; the question is, do you have the moxxy to get the job done?
Do you? Join A/V UNITED channel and show it.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
755
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Posted - 2014.05.24 20:03:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Well, the intent was to both recognize that and take steps to adress it by buffing AV through grenades and the PLC while reducing the Blaster efficiency against infantry. You also have to take into consideration that tanking is too cheap at the moment. When tanks get destroyed it doesnt have a huge impact on the one running it because they are not expensive.... On the other hand when I lose my 525k dropship I feel it and that means I go negative for the next 3 matches minimum. Too cheap? Are you f***ing kidding me? My tank also costs over half a million, and I frequently lose multiple tanks per battle trying to battle those cheap ass glass Sicas. I can always win against one due to my experience but sh*t hits the fan when they spam them and one's on my ass right after I won against one of their scrub brethren. If anything vehicle prices need to be reduced. Or massive nerfs to militia and standard to reflect their low costs.
I think both. Tanks should be nerfed but made much cheaper. 70k tanks should be on par with 70k dropsuits.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2014.05.26 20:58:00 -
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We need to look at dropships and tanks separately. I think dropships and forges are pretty well balanced against each other, I can drive off a dropship with a forge, unless they or their squad, is just outplaying me and my squad. Swarms are just flat out broken , even proto swarms. I have been in many matches with at least two of us firing proto swarms and a dropship just ignores us as we fire volley after volley at it. We are hitting it, it just doesn't matter. Once they get taken into armor they can easily escape and rep so quickly that they literally just fly out of range and turn back immediately. Pilots can argue all they want but the fact is even a dropship without a pilot is hard to kill with swarms, sometimes impossible.
As to the argument that it should take more than one player to kill another player, what is your rationale for that? ISK? Should a proto dropsuit be literally impossible to kill with a militia AR? I mean the proto just stands there and can't be killed, because that is where we are wth swarms.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2014.05.27 05:33:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:Swarms are just flat out broken , even proto swarms. I have been in many matches with at least two of us firing proto swarms and a dropship just ignores us as we fire volley after volley at it. When was the last time you used swarms? My Python is downed in 3 vollys of proto swarms.
A couple of nights ago. I don't believe your Python went down in three volleys from swarms alone. I don't even want it to be that easy.
Because, that's why.
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