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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.22 12:24:00 -
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Eve Online is already on Steam and the VAC system would be a great deterrent to cheating ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
What's the likeliness of this if Legion gets greenlit?
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Ender Storm
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.05.22 19:55:00 -
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I would bet its almost certain Legion would be hitting Steam. Cant see a reason why not, especially considering the playerbase and the easy access to it when it launches - getting featured and all on the front page can do wonders. |
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2014.05.22 21:35:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:the VAC system would be a great deterrent to cheating I don't see how it would be any better than CCP's own anti-cheat system.
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2014.05.22 22:11:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:the VAC system would be a great deterrent to cheating I don't see how it would be any better than CCP's own anti-cheat system.
not sure how to respond to that.
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.22 23:13:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:the VAC system would be a great deterrent to cheating I don't see how it would be any better than CCP's own anti-cheat system.
Ever seen what happens when someone gets a VAC ban? Literally every game you have on Steam? Poof. Gone. Forever. Not much you can do better in terms of discouraging someone to not cheat than have them run the risk of losing every game they have on Steam xD
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.05.22 23:51:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:the VAC system would be a great deterrent to cheating I don't see how it would be any better than CCP's own anti-cheat system. Ever seen what happens when someone gets a VAC ban? Literally every game you have on Steam? Poof. Gone. Forever. Not much you can do better in terms of discouraging someone to not cheat than have them run the risk of losing every game they have on Steam xD VAC ban =/= Steam Ban. If you get VAC banned, you are unable to play online games that use VAC. Steam Ban/Suspension, which is more rare, is a poof. As always, it is free to make a Steam account. Make a Steam account, make a burner Legion account, and a ban will only slow you down moderately.
The problem with totally free games is not catching cheaters. That is fairly easy and you ban them. The problem is prevention. Even if you ban Cheater McDick within an hour of them aim-botting and annoying the hell out of players in matches, they will be back in a hour. CCP needs to put a stop to cheating before it starts.
However, I am in the camp of "cheating, while not unheard of, is not entirely common in PC games", especially when it is in competitive stuff. Sure TF2 has some aim-bots and Starcraft has some maphacks but they are about as common as console lag switchers. It happens but it is a "that person is a colossal weenie that probably feels bad about themselves for still wetting the bed" rather than a "this game is dying because everyone is using it" type of thing.
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.23 00:20:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:the VAC system would be a great deterrent to cheating I don't see how it would be any better than CCP's own anti-cheat system. Ever seen what happens when someone gets a VAC ban? Literally every game you have on Steam? Poof. Gone. Forever. Not much you can do better in terms of discouraging someone to not cheat than have them run the risk of losing every game they have on Steam xD VAC ban =/= Steam Ban. If you get VAC banned, you are unable to play online games that use VAC. Steam Ban/Suspension, which is more rare, is a poof. As always, it is free to make a Steam account. Make a Steam account, make a burner Legion account, and a ban will only slow you down moderately. The problem with totally free games is not catching cheaters. That is fairly easy and you ban them. The problem is prevention. Even if you ban Cheater McDick within an hour of them aim-botting and annoying the hell out of players in matches, they will be back in a hour. CCP needs to put a stop to cheating before it starts. However, I am in the camp of "cheating, while not unheard of, is not entirely common in PC games", especially when it is in competitive stuff. Sure TF2 has some aim-bots and Starcraft has some maphacks but they are about as common as console lag switchers. It happens but it is a "that person is a colossal weenie that probably feels bad about themselves for still wetting the bed" rather than a "this game is dying because everyone is using it" type of thing. Anyway, Legion should most definitely be on Steam. Being featured is a great way to get some more players into a game especially when the game is free. Since EVE is already there it makes since Legion would be.
Ah, well, I figured being as they were both technically Valve's doing it was the same thing. Thanks for the info
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