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STABBEY
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.05.21 16:56:00 -
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Yes I realize assault suits aren't a viable role at the moment especially in PC, BUT for the day it may be useful again im confused on the racial bonus were it says:
+5% to reload speed of HYBRID - RAILGUN LIGHT/SIDEARM weapons per level.
What weapons get this bonus? At present I only use CR due to AR's sucking balls.
What weapons are in HYBRID - RAILGUN LIGHT/SIDEARM category??
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.05.21 17:03:00 -
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Light:
Rail Rifle
Sniper Rifle
Sidearm:
MagSec SMG
Bolt Pistol
Pretty sure thats it... |
STABBEY
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.05.21 17:07:00 -
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So the suit is a bigger piece of shiat then I thought.
Noted.
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emtbraincase
Savage Bullet
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Posted - 2014.05.21 17:29:00 -
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You do realize you are using a Cal suit with Min weapon, right? The assault suits were redesigned to function optimally with the same racial weapons. If you are using Cal assault with anything but Rail/Sniper rifles, you are doing it less corret (since we all know there is no wrong way to make a suit, just less effective ways). |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
1878
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Posted - 2014.05.21 19:12:00 -
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The problem is three fold.
1. Assaults don't have a role or something they do better than everyone else. Scouts can cloak, Commandos are versatile and do the most damage (still not really good though), Logistics have lots of equipment, Sentinels have a load of EHP and heavy weapons, and Assaults can be just a little bit better with their racial weapons and make it just a little bit easier to fit light/sidearms which doesn't make up for having lower PG/CPU than Logistics anyway. So Assaults don't do anything special; they have a gun, they shoot people, that is it. So does every one else but they can actually do something special.
2. The Assault bonus doesn't make the racial weapon good enough to justify not using a better weapon. Assault Rifle is terrible; a Gallente Assault 5 is better off using a Combat/Rail Rifle instead of the Assault Rifle. The Combat Rifle is so powerful that it might not even be worth using any same race suit. Caldari reload a little faster, which only makes up for the deficit of having lower ammo and longer reload. Gallente have a smaller hipfire, which only makes up for the terrible dispersion of the Assault Rifle and doesn't help the fact that it has a shorter range and less DPS than the other weapons. Amarr bonus is actually great but why bother with an Assault suit when you can run Logistics + Scrambler/Combat Rifle anyway? Minmatar bonus is decent but the Minmatar Assault suit is fairly lackluster.
3. Assault suits are terrible. Assaults get like an extra 60 HP but Logistics get:
Caldari: 1 extra high, 1 extra low slot, two extra equipment.
Amarr: 1 extra low, two extra equipment, and they keep their sidearm.
Gallente: 1 extra low, 3 extra equipment.
Minmatar: 1 less high slot but 2 extra low slots (much more HP in the end), 3 extra equipment
The extra 60 base HP, slightly faster movement speed,and sprint doesn't make up for having less slots and less CPU/PG.
So it isn't the bonuses; it is the fact that 'Assaults' don't have a role and are inferior at a suit level.
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STABBEY
Heaven's Lost Property
496
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Posted - 2014.05.21 21:22:00 -
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emtbraincase wrote:You do realize you are using a Cal suit with Min weapon, right? The assault suits were redesigned to function optimally with the same racial weapons. If you are using Cal assault with anything but Rail/Sniper rifles, you are doing it less corret (since we all know there is no wrong way to make a suit, just less effective ways).
I haven't played since Christmas till about a week ago, from then alllll the way back to closed beta I used the cal assault and AR.
Up until 1.8 yes the suit was built correctly and deadly effective. Now... not so much obviously...
The weapons race didn't matter at all for about 2 years..
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emtbraincase
Savage Bullet
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Posted - 2014.05.21 21:45:00 -
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STABBEY wrote:emtbraincase wrote:You do realize you are using a Cal suit with Min weapon, right? The assault suits were redesigned to function optimally with the same racial weapons. If you are using Cal assault with anything but Rail/Sniper rifles, you are doing it less corret (since we all know there is no wrong way to make a suit, just less effective ways). I haven't played since Christmas till about a week ago, from then alllll the way back to closed beta I used the cal assault and AR. Up until 1.8 yes the suit was built correctly and deadly effective. Now... not so much obviously... The weapons race didn't matter at all for about 2 years..
....and it still doesn't, as long as you run ANYTHING other than assault. |
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