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Andris Kronis
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.05.21 13:45:00 -
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ISK = (character SP - 500,000)
It doesn't matter how much ISK you have now in 514, you just get your SP minus the clone starting SP (500,000) ... as ISK
No corporation ISK - not compatible.
This is a very generous starting position for ISK.
It acknowledges the effort that people have put into building their various characters
BPOs are transferred, they are now the same as Eve BPOs
Meaning if you want to make some suits (or other modules) with the BPO you had better go out and salvage some ingredients to make a suit from the BPO you have.
Want to give a friend a BPC (blueprint copy) so they can run off a few suits from their own salvage?
Better trade it to an Eve character to copy for you ... make sure you don't get scammed chum .. its a harsh universe out there ;)
I would suggest a simple method for the construction from BPOs, using existing materials in the Eve universe that are expected to be salvaged from the various environments
Something to do with Nanites sounds interesting at first pass. (My buddy Kira says they want to raid the Planetary command centres of Eve pilots and steal their tasty PI)
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
529
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Posted - 2014.05.21 14:00:00 -
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Nice ideas, but it is possible that constraints relating to ISK will be gone in favor of "accessibility."
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Leeroy Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.05.21 14:28:00 -
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NO BAD IDEA IS BAD
Honestly, I don't mind the idea of a full ISK and ISK Asset wipe; AUR and AUR items should be either translated to Legion, where possible, and where items change dramatically or are totally removed a full AUR refund would be in order.
But this is more to do with the fact that AUR is real money, whereas ISK... is not.
MY ACTUAL NAME IS LORHAK
It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart...
CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
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Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2268
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Posted - 2014.05.21 14:33:00 -
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I promise that if my SP doesn't transfer over as SP I will dedicate my time in legion to griefing newbies as harshly as possible.
dent308: humans are filthy crazy things that shit in their own homes
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Tweaksz
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
105
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Posted - 2014.05.21 17:54:00 -
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ISK transfer is just stupid with PC farming as bad as it is. The new market in Legion would get butt-raped no lube the instance an ISK transfer is made from dust to legion . The one thing that would make sense is an SP transfer as in any game there will always be vets and newbies. That way vets don't lose all their progress. Edit: AUR and AUR items should be transferred as it would have no impact on game economy and it was hard-earned money spent and it would be tasteless by CCP to jsut disregard that.
Pill Popping Madness!
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8677
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Posted - 2014.05.21 18:14:00 -
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This is too early to bring up considering that we don't know how legion will be once it is greenlit. We don't know how the secondary market will behave and how the ISK faucet and sink balance will be. Until we get information on that, we won't know if the 1:1 ISK transfer between legion and Eve will be needed or not.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8677
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Posted - 2014.05.21 18:17:00 -
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Tweaksz wrote:ISK transfer is just stupid with PC farming as bad as it is. The new market in Legion would get butt-raped no lube the instance an ISK transfer is made from dust to legion . The one thing that would make sense is an SP transfer as in any game there will always be vets and newbies. That way vets don't lose all their progress. Edit: AUR and AUR items should be transferred as it would have no impact on game economy and it was hard-earned money spent and it would be tasteless by CCP to jsut disregard that.
PC in DUST will not likely be the same as PC in legion since CCP acknowledged that PC in DUST, as it is, is absolutely broken. CCP will likely start over with PC and completely overhaul it before legion is given the green light.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2379
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Posted - 2014.05.21 19:52:00 -
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Back on topic, I actually like this idea, like a lot.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Final Resolution.
1879
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Posted - 2014.05.21 20:43:00 -
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Here's the thing: I bought my Raven, Dren, Sever, and Dragonfly BPO's to have suits that never run out. Same with my Plasma Rifle, Scrambler Pistol, Swarm Launcher, Shotgun, and SMG. I didn't spend money to have them be EVE BPO's. I also didn't buy them to be skins, trophies, or achievements. That is the problem when a company sells something that they no longer wish to honor; you get a lot of people saying "uhh, I paid for this." Considering there is going to be no Aurum gear that lets you get ahead in the progression (meaning all current Aurum gear is basically null and void), there are going to be some extremely unhappy people when Legion transfers. I will be one of them.
Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: Honestly, I don't mind the idea of a full ISK and ISK Asset wipe; AUR and AUR items should be either translated to Legion, where possible, and where items change dramatically or are totally removed a full AUR refund would be in order.
But this is more to do with the fact that AUR is real money, whereas ISK... is not.
Absolutely, 100% agree. In DUST, money doesn't matter really because everything is from NPC and it is infinite. In Legion where things are actually going to be limited , the rich will have a huge advantage. You will have people selling Shield Extenders for a high amount because people with 50 million can afford them while the new player is screwed.
Money shouldn't transfer because you are going to have the hyper rich having 80+ million rather than billions. Even more if they have alts. Say Legion is green lit now and it takes one year until money will transfer. For every alt you start now you would transfer over 8.76 million ISK. Say they are like certain people that started 20 alts the day open beta started (16 months ago, 485 days), adding the 365 days to transfer would make it 20.4 million per alt, 408 million with just alts.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8678
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Posted - 2014.05.22 01:46:00 -
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@Joseph
So what do you plan to do with BPOs that are now going to be made redundant by CCP Z's idea of making all suits prototype and bpo?
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2389
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Posted - 2014.05.22 01:52:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Here's the thing: I bought my Raven, Dren, Sever, and Dragonfly BPO's to have suits that never run out. Same with my Plasma Rifle, Scrambler Pistol, Swarm Launcher, Shotgun, and SMG. I didn't spend money to have them be EVE BPO's. I also didn't buy them to be skins, trophies, or achievements. That is the problem when a company sells something that they no longer wish to honor; you get a lot of people saying "uhh, I paid for this." Considering there is going to be no Aurum gear that lets you get ahead in the progression (meaning all current Aurum gear is basically null and void), there are going to be some extremely unhappy people when Legion transfers. I will be one of them. Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: Honestly, I don't mind the idea of a full ISK and ISK Asset wipe; AUR and AUR items should be either translated to Legion, where possible, and where items change dramatically or are totally removed a full AUR refund would be in order.
But this is more to do with the fact that AUR is real money, whereas ISK... is not.
Absolutely, 100% agree. In DUST, money doesn't matter really because everything is from NPC and it is infinite. In Legion where things are actually going to be limited , the rich will have a huge advantage. You will have people selling Shield Extenders for a high amount because people with 50 million can afford them while the new player is screwed. Money shouldn't transfer because you are going to have the hyper rich having 80+ million rather than billions. Even more if they have alts. Say Legion is green lit now and it takes one year until money will transfer. For every alt you start now you would transfer over 8.76 million ISK. Say they are like certain people that started 20 alts the day open beta started (16 months ago, 485 days), adding the 365 days to transfer would make it 20.4 million per alt, 408 million with just alts.
beta testers are going to have far more ISK regardless...............
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Final Resolution.
1882
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Posted - 2014.05.22 02:12:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:@Joseph
So what do you plan to do with BPOs that are now going to be made redundant by CCP Z's idea of making all suits prototype and bpo? No idea. It is a crappy situation because BPO's were bought to never run out but now all dropsuits never run out. For AUR ones, it is not that bad. A refund works. However, the Dren and Mercenary pack is a stickier situation as that was straight cash for BPO's. My guess is that they will become skins and other skins will be made available. No matter what happens, I know I ain't gonna be happy.
Also, where did Z state that all Dropsuits are prototype level? I missed that one.
Godin Thekiller wrote: beta testers are going to have far more ISK regardless............... But should the gap be increased ten fold? That's like saying "well, I am already fat so I guess more weight is fine." (My doctor says it doesn't work that way )
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2389
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Posted - 2014.05.22 02:25:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:@Joseph
So what do you plan to do with BPOs that are now going to be made redundant by CCP Z's idea of making all suits prototype and bpo? No idea. It is a crappy situation because BPO's were bought to never run out but now all dropsuits never run out. For AUR ones, it is not that bad. A refund works. However, the Dren and Mercenary pack is a stickier situation as that was straight cash for BPO's. My guess is that they will become skins and other skins will be made available. No matter what happens, I know I ain't gonna be happy. Also, where did Z state that all Dropsuits are prototype level? I missed that one. Godin Thekiller wrote: beta testers are going to have far more ISK regardless............... But should the gap be increased ten fold? That's like saying "well, I am already fat so I guess more weight is fine." (My doctor says it doesn't work that way )
Sir, this is a port of Dust over to PC, and a rebranding of Dust. Also, like it'll matter anyways.
Also, having a start up of ISK that is far lower than what some people have now (going from hundreds of millions to 30-50 million) is okay. And they will regardless have far more ISK regardless anyways, with or without it, so there'll be a large gap anyways.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8683
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Posted - 2014.05.22 18:16:00 -
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@Joseph
CCP Z mentioned it in the Progression Presentation at Fanfest 2014. It's posted on CCP's YouTube channel.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Final Resolution.
1892
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Posted - 2014.05.22 23:35:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:@Joseph
CCP Z mentioned it in the Progression Presentation at Fanfest 2014. It's posted on CCP's YouTube channel. I only heard him say BPO rather than Prototype BPO. One implies all dropsuits are the same and the other implies that all dropsuits may vary but are still nonetheless BPO. My hearing is bunk though so maybe I have missed it several times.
I do know that each dropsuit is going to have different stats so as to make each one useful as I explicitly heard Z say that. Not sure about Prototype though.
Cheers.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2399
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Posted - 2014.05.23 00:12:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:@Joseph
CCP Z mentioned it in the Progression Presentation at Fanfest 2014. It's posted on CCP's YouTube channel. I only heard him say BPO rather than Prototype BPO. One implies all dropsuits are the same and the other implies that all dropsuits may vary but are still nonetheless BPO. My hearing is bunk though so maybe I have missed it several times. I do know that each dropsuit is going to have different stats so as to make each one useful as I explicitly heard Z say that. Not sure about Prototype though. Cheers.
tiercide is in, and all suits are BPO's (dust style).
Idiot idea if you ask me, and it makes no sense whatsoever, but okay.........
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