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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.21 22:12:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:To be fair, someone once said that if BPOs, in the sense of being free, are just limited to the dropsuit while everything else that is NOT a suit remains as a consumable, then all this will mean is that the cost of the suit will simply shift over to the weapons, modules, and vehicles. Therefore the risk remains the same.
However, I still find it unnatural to see something like the dropsuits become BPOs in this way. If that's the case, then let's hope that it's ONLY the suits they making them into and nothing else. If the cost shifts over, then as I said, what's the point? It's not like when you die all your SP for that suit disappears........
I agree. Cost shifts over to modules and what have we gained?
We've given up a powerful piece of immersion(every item in New Eden is manufactured by somebody/something from real minerals mined by somebody/something) for players identifying with their dropsuits?
Will you identify with your dropsuit? I know i won't. I'll identify with how well i do my job on the battlefield, my race, my corp, my enemies. My triumphs and failures. A dropsuit is nothing compared to those things.
If CCP Z is trying to address player risk aversion the answer is easy: make dropsuits relatively inexpensive, and maintain the economic and lore connection with New Eden.
If the reason for a magic BPO dropsuit that requires no minerals is some monetization scheme, making the decision to throw away a fundamental immersive and social/economic interaction-building component of New Eden is a dangerous and slippery slope.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.21 22:15:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote: Your best dropsuit can always be used regardless, as tiercide is happening. The price will go into the modules, so as I've said already, there's no point in that. Also, nobody cares about the dropsuit; they care about the fit. He doesn't get it I think............... He wants people to not care about the fit or the modules but about the dropsuit itself. Even with tiericide happening, the price of a dropsuit still shouldn't be an obstacle. My guess is that is what is argument would be. "I want people to care about the dropsuit and not the fittings. The modules are a tool for the dropsuit while the dropsuit should be everything to you." Like I said, that is what I assume his reasoning is. I can't argue for him, nor do I care to because I don't know how to feel about the whole shtick; merely try to relate to those that are having trouble seeing his reasons for doing it is all.
How can you care about something that cost you nothing?
PSN: RationalSpark
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.21 22:17:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:What's the point of making suits BPO's, but everything else not? suits are being tiercided, so there's literraly no point in doing so imo. I need a valid explanation (and that whole "the suit is important" **** is not a valid argument. it's not the suit that's important, it's the ISK value, and the fit itself that's important). As far as I see it, it jsut takes away from manufacturing and the market. Peace, Godin  To put this into perspective, Gobin, can you explain to me why our Clones are free in DUST, outside of PC?
Because DUST is a beta test. CCP have already talked about monetizing clones in DUST and EVE.
PSN: RationalSpark
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