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Varoth Drac
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.05.20 12:24:00 -
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I've heard people claim that Caldari scouts seem to occasionally become magically immune to weapon fire. I always thought this was probably just QQ.
However today I swear I fired 15 rail rifle rounds at close range into a Caldari scout without him taking any damage.
It is possible I just missed every shot. Rail rifles aren't great at hip fire, and he was strafing. It did seem odd though. I really felt like some shots should have connected.
What are other people's experiences of this? Do I just need to learn to aim? Has reading the forums made me paranoid? |
Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2014.05.20 12:38:00 -
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I've fired whole clips into people and they've taken no damage - guess what suit they were wearing..
That's right....
ANY suit.
Nothing special with the Cal scout (except for looking awesome!) |
Lanius Pulvis
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
272
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Posted - 2014.05.20 12:47:00 -
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I run an advanced laser and they even dance through that sometimes, assault combat rifle too.
Not new, just new to you.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.05.20 13:16:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:I've fired whole clips into people and they've taken no damage - guess what suit they were wearing..
That's right....
ANY suit.
Nothing special with the Cal scout (except for looking awesome!)
The Caldari Scout looks like it's wearing a diaper. 
*Insert Witty Gameplay Remark Here*
Why Do Slayers Get All The Credit? :(
-HAND
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.05.20 13:29:00 -
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I run CalScout and GalScout.
I haven't found that I'm "tougher to hit" in Cal, but that's just one guy's observation.
I have found that Laser Rifles at range eat me alive. Its kinda scary, and its kinda cool :-)
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Varoth Drac
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
101
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Posted - 2014.05.20 13:34:00 -
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Most of the time I have no trouble hitting Cal scouts. It seemed like a freak occurrence.
The only reason I'm posting about it is because I heard others mention having the same problem. Though I could just have been unlucky. |
Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2460
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Posted - 2014.05.20 13:55:00 -
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Cal Scout only has 2 low slots so fewer armor plates on it. you're just not used to people being so nimble.
and by nimble, I mean the faster you can move the worse hit-detection gets.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
281
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Posted - 2014.05.20 14:00:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Cal Scout only has 2 low slots so fewer armor plates on it. you're just not used to people being so nimble.
and by nimble, I mean the faster you can move the worse hit-detection gets.
Yes, plz more people spec into Cal scout it is super OP, you can't be hit! =P
....and I'll continue using my shotgun 1-shotting Cal scouts with their silly shield tank. |
Leeroy Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.05.20 14:19:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Cal Scout only has 2 low slots so fewer armor plates on it. you're just not used to people being so nimble.
and by nimble, I mean the faster you can move the worse hit-detection gets.
Yeah, no-one puts plates on CalScout, but it's tougher than an untanked Gal or MinScout, thanks to Complex Shield Extender stacking.
I'm a ScR user, primarily, and I have more problems killing Gallente scouts than Caldari scouts.
For what should be pretty obvious reasons.
MY ACTUAL NAME IS LORHAK
It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart...
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.05.20 14:54:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:I've fired whole clips into people and they've taken no damage - guess what suit they were wearing..
That's right....
ANY suit.
Nothing special with the Cal scout (except for looking awesome!)
Same here. It mostly happened with the RR, though it HAS happened with the AR once or twice. |
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
2149
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:37:00 -
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I main caldari scout and from my experience, it takes the same damage as anything else. I'm referring to me wearing the suit AND me killing someone wearing the suit.
it may SEEM that they take less damage because you expect the shields to fly down, but you have to remember scouts already have a tiny hitbox plus the cal scout can get the most shields.
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JP Acuna
Pendejitos
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:56:00 -
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Well, the rail rifle, as all railgun tech weapons, has this bug where you press the fire button and it seems like you're shooting, but you're not. Your clip doesn't begin to run out of ammo until later, when you're no longer firing. |
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.05.20 16:12:00 -
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Try the AR against them. Works wonders. |
Enkidu Camuel
Ahrendee Mercenaries
207
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Posted - 2014.05.20 16:49:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Try the AR against them. Works wonders.
This, the only thing that destroys me quickly in my cal scout (besides a CR) is a Duvolle at close range, I fear this will get worse if they buff up too much the AR's...
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Varoth Drac
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
101
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Posted - 2014.05.20 17:24:00 -
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JP Acuna wrote:Well, the rail rifle, as all railgun tech weapons, has this bug where you press the fire button and it seems like you're shooting, but you're not. Your clip doesn't begin to run out of ammo until later, when you're no longer firing. Maybe that's what happened, I don't use rail rifles often. Or maybe I'm too used to shooting slow armour tankers. Just to be clear I'm not saying this is a common experience, just that it seemed odd in this instance.
And for the record my main suit is a min scout, and any anti-shield weapons melt me instantly. Nothing will make you poo yourself like turning a corner in a min scout and confronting a scrambler rifle. That said, the ability to run away screaming is why I fell in love with the suit. |
Henrietta Unknown
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
Dropsuit Samurai
251
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:46:00 -
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Let's see, I certainly feel nothing different AS a Cal Scout other than a small boost to speed. Then again, we have Min Scouts for that.
I have one-shotted two cloaked Cal Scouts in rapid succession with a shotgun and a hunch. But I've also gone up against three Cal Scouts with Shotgun, Bolt Pistol, and ACR who received merely a dent from my weaponry, and strafed crazy. You could've guessed how those instances turned out.
I suppose it's the variations in armor fitting across different players.
Henrietta Reborn
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Sir Dukey
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
885
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:51:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:I've fired whole clips into people and they've taken no damage - guess what suit they were wearing..
That's right....
ANY suit.
Nothing special with the Cal scout (except for looking awesome!) The Caldari Scout looks like it's wearing a diaper.
amarr looks like giraffe, gallante looks mentally ********, and minmitar looks cheap. |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2499
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:55:00 -
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For some reason, Minmatar weaponry seems to be ineffective when I use them against Cal Light frames. Yesterday, I had a Caldari Scout in direct line of my HMG. He ran straight at me through the fire only to blast me in the face with his shotgun.
My dual SMG fit also has problems. Whenever I'm in range for surprise sneak attack, I unload my clips only to have the Cal Scout I'm hunting down turn around and finish me off with his or her ACR/CR. I won't even detail the trouble I've had where 90% of my CR rounds seem to do no damage...
The only weapon I use that seems effective against them is my ScP. |
Lunatic Kota
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.20 23:51:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:For some reason, Minmatar weaponry seems to be ineffective when I use them against Cal Light frames. Yesterday, I had a Caldari Scout in direct line of my HMG. He ran straight at me through the fire only to blast me in the face with his shotgun.
My dual SMG fit also has problems. Whenever I'm in range for surprise sneak attack, I unload my clips only to have the Cal Scout I'm hunting down turn around and finish me off with his or her ACR/CR. I won't even detail the trouble I've had where 90% of my CR rounds seem to do no damage...
The only weapon I use that seems effective against them is my ScP.
Probably because they're armor based.
If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
-David Hackworth
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Lynn Beck
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.05.21 00:06:00 -
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Because yeah, a Minmatar commando with lv5 using projectile makes it SO MUCH worse against shields than rail rifles.
It takes more bullets to down MILITIA calscouts than PROTO minscouts.
I've been stating this for ever- they take reduced dmg to shields from projectile(i'm talking 75% reduction)
Since when does hit detection make a calscout take 5 ( ! ) damage from a PROTO ACR on minmando 5?
Hit detection makes hits not register, not register for % damage.
It takes 3 locuses to kill my Basic Cal light with 1 extender.
General John Ripper
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2502
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Posted - 2014.05.21 01:07:00 -
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Lunatic Kota wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:For some reason, Minmatar weaponry seems to be ineffective when I use them against Cal Light frames. Yesterday, I had a Caldari Scout in direct line of my HMG. He ran straight at me through the fire only to blast me in the face with his shotgun.
My dual SMG fit also has problems. Whenever I'm in range for surprise sneak attack, I unload my clips only to have the Cal Scout I'm hunting down turn around and finish me off with his or her ACR/CR. I won't even detail the trouble I've had where 90% of my CR rounds seem to do no damage...
The only weapon I use that seems effective against them is my ScP. Probably because they're armor based.
I shred heavies with 600 shields easily. I can barely place dents into Calscouts who have 300 shields. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
1915
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Posted - 2014.05.21 01:27:00 -
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Cal scouts only advantage is they are a darker suit .... Mixed with not Having that Red outline and chevron above their head and Enemies can't make up their mind if they are on their team or are an enemy and often dont distinguish a difference from them to their team mate.
Hit detection in DUST is a Farce.
When your crosshair turns "Red" that is the only time CCP's Servers and your Playstation 3 says "Ok your bullets will now hit"
Where as any other shooter, You spray your bullets at a wall and where they go in your reticule is where they always go and thats how you aim and hit.
Dust it's a series of waiting for your Crosshairs to turn "red" So you can fire.
It's why Aim Assist is so strong in DUST 514. Because Once those Crosshair's "Red" your hitting 80-90% bullet accuracy with any gun, Then the Magnetic Tracking on Aim Assist will keep your Crosshairs "Red" Longer... And with Fixes in 1.5 and 1.6 to DS3's they expanded the area in which Your crosshairs will turn "Red" for the Gamepad.
Making aiming something that is not really relevant in playerskill for DUST 514... More Generally look in the area's and get your crosshairs "Red" Hold down the fire button... Rinse Repeat. |
Sum1ne Else
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1145
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Posted - 2014.05.21 16:03:00 -
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People arent QQing about the Cal scout because those F*kers are Cal Scout.
The hit detection is all screwed up, and has never been right.
I do not have any skills into Cal scout but used a militia the other day, kin cat, compact hive, no nades, basic CR, toxin SMG and 1complex 1enh Shield, couldnt fit anything else; I went 17 and 5. I was outstrafing everything, killing heavies whilst bunny hopping and using cover to recharge. EZ Mode
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LUNATIC Pandora x
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2014.05.21 18:37:00 -
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This is why Caldari is master race |
Henrietta Unknown
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
Dropsuit Samurai
252
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Posted - 2014.05.21 23:39:00 -
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Their shields are just better than expected.
Given that shields only work on Cal Scouts.
Henrietta Reborn
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2521
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Posted - 2014.05.21 23:48:00 -
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Well. I have a crap load of SP saved up: might as well try the CalScout out. |
Thurak1
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
756
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Posted - 2014.05.22 02:21:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:I've heard people claim that Caldari scouts seem to occasionally become magically immune to weapon fire. I always thought this was probably just QQ.
However today I swear I fired 15 rail rifle rounds at close range into a Caldari scout without him taking any damage.
It is possible I just missed every shot. Rail rifles aren't great at hip fire, and he was strafing. It did seem odd though. I really felt like some shots should have connected.
What are other people's experiences of this? Do I just need to learn to aim? Has reading the forums made me paranoid?
imagine how annoying this is for a heavy with a hmg. |
Izlare Lenix
Arrogance.
Dark Taboo
585
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Posted - 2014.05.22 08:20:00 -
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I use the cal scout and I still die in it, especially against good players that can shoot. I normally run with a ScR and I have zero issue eating other cal scouts alive.
The only time I notice an issue is when I notice a hit detection issue and then nobody takes damage properly regardless of what suit they are wearing.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
347
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Posted - 2014.05.22 10:20:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:
Rail rifles aren't great at hip fire, and he was strafing. I?
if this were true then the ar would beat it form its own hip fire.
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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