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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
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Posted - 2014.05.19 12:09:00 -
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In close relation to a concept presented here on AUR purchasable treasure chests, I am requesting that CCP consider the inclusion of a mechanic that allows players to convert message files into item assets (data diskettes). For example, this may be used by a lore inclined player to create a series of fan-fictions and disperse them in loot caches around PVE zones in New Eden with clues to find the location of each story, and accompanying gear.
Additional points:
-Creation of a diskettes from a message creates a non-removable time-stamp and name of the player who created the public file.
-CCP may track the transfer of diskettes between player (exactly as current in-game message systems work).
-Files only support text and retain functionality word processor tools as in Eve: Online client.
-Diskettes cost a negligible amount of ISK to create (currently NPC vendor)
-Message diskettes may be destroyed.
I'm am seeking feedback on this concept and welcome any and all critiques. 
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TrueXer0z
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.05.19 12:27:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:In close relation to a concept presented here on AUR purchasable treasure chests, I am requesting that CCP consider the inclusion of a mechanic that allows players to convert message files into item assets (data diskettes). For example, this may be used by a lore inclined player to create a series of fan-fictions and disperse them in loot caches around PVE zones in New Eden with clues to find the location of each story, and accompanying gear. Additional points: -Creation of a diskettes from a message creates a non-removable time-stamp and name of the player who created the public file. -CCP may track the transfer of diskettes between player (exactly as current in-game message systems work). -Files only support text and retain functionality word processor tools as in Eve: Online client. -Diskettes cost a negligible amount of ISK to create (currently NPC vendor) -Message diskettes may be destroyed. I'm am seeking feedback on this concept and welcome any and all critiques.
This is a very cool idea. I would love to see something like this. However, knowing people. It would get abused and you would see disks with very inappropriate things.
Imagine finding a looting spot and opening the container only to find.
"HAHA you thought you were going to find something! &*#*# you!!"
I donno, I am sure other people are way more creative about things of this nature. But, otherwise a very interesting concept.
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
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Posted - 2014.05.19 12:32:00 -
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TrueXer0z wrote:This is a very cool idea. I would love to see something like this. However, knowing people. It would get abused and you would see disks with very inappropriate things.
Imagine finding a looting spot and opening the container only to find.
"HAHA you thought you were going to find something! &*#*# you!!"
I donno, I am sure other people are way more creative about things of this nature. But, otherwise a very interesting concept.
I am perfectly fine if people use it that way. Remember people must use AUR to buy containers in order to pull off these public trolls. CCP wins and people get their fun. As for general abuse of diskettes, it's really not much different than our in our in-game message system except that instead of sending messages between people it's sender to public. Within that context it's a lot more dangerous to write bannable material.
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Foxbat 071
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Posted - 2014.05.19 21:39:00 -
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Great idea +1
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2014.05.19 21:41:00 -
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I'd use them.
click me
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
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Posted - 2014.05.20 00:12:00 -
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The ability to troll with these would be astronomical!
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.05.20 00:20:00 -
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Not a bad idea.
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
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Posted - 2014.05.20 06:03:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:The ability to troll with these would be astronomical!
+1
And CCP makes bank on the trolls. 
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Jadek Menaheim
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Posted - 2014.05.20 07:34:00 -
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Could a mechanic like this ever be expanded to EVE online were we extract packages and messages from a planets surface for them?
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Jadek Menaheim
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Posted - 2014.05.20 07:44:00 -
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Another important point to discuss is how they would be stored in your inventory. There are a lot of RPG gamesbwe can look to on that; which one is the best?
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Pseudogenesis
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Posted - 2014.05.20 09:47:00 -
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This would be extremely cool, but I'd expect over half of them to be "PSST..........ur a faget"
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
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Posted - 2014.05.20 09:52:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:This would be extremely cool, but I'd expect over half of them to be "PSST..........ur a faget"
The point that players have to pay real money to put them in a publicly discoverable location would help reduce a good bit of those kinds of trolls I imagine. Plus the fact that you can report really obscene messages, just like you can with the current message system.
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MySpaceTom
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Posted - 2014.05.20 09:55:00 -
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While impractical, I would love the ability to curate New Eden's player-side message logs within purchasable or community sharable locations. Like an AUR bought library for example.
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Jadek Menaheim
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Posted - 2014.05.20 10:32:00 -
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Here's an interesting idea. You remember how CCP showed how planets have their own environmental hazards? Now what if those hazards applied to the degradation of items and loot caches on a planet. In order to free up server space items will eventually breakdown even messages if they are not recovered soon enough.
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/05/the-library-of-congress-wants-to-destroy-your-old-cds-for-science/370804/
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Velociraptor antirrhopus
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.20 11:25:00 -
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Jadek you never cease to amaze me...
It's like in Kingdom Hearts where Sora finds the floating bottle with a note in it from Kairi...
In DUST514...
Edit: I mean lesion. I mean Legion.
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
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Posted - 2014.05.20 11:47:00 -
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@Velociraptor antirrhopus
Exactly!
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Jadek Menaheim
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Posted - 2014.05.20 11:52:00 -
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The point should probably be brought up for debate. Currently the messages are free, but the bottles your put them are in can only be obtained with real money. If loot caches were to have an ISK equivalent, what would be a fair price?
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.05.20 12:35:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:In close relation to a concept presented here on AUR purchasable treasure chests, I am requesting that CCP consider the inclusion of a mechanic that allows players to convert message files into item assets (data diskettes). For example, this may be used by a lore inclined player to create a series of fan-fictions and disperse them in loot caches around PVE zones in New Eden with clues to find the location of each story, and accompanying gear. Additional points: -Creation of a diskettes from a message creates a non-removable time-stamp and name of the player who created the public file. This is done both enhance the notoriety of the player creating the message and establish the existence of original edition messages. -CCP may track the transfer of diskettes between player (exactly as current in-game message systems work). -Files only support text and retain functionality word processor tools as in Eve: Online client. -Diskettes cost a negligible amount of ISK to create (currently NPC vendor) -Message diskettes may be destroyed. I'm am seeking feedback on this concept and welcome any and all critiques.
That has many possibilities for emergent content.
Geocaching just being one of them.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.05.20 12:47:00 -
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It just occurred to me that I cold copy my Guides to disk, and sell them on the Market. 
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
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Posted - 2014.05.20 12:50:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:It just occurred to me that I cold copy my Guides to disk, and sell them on the Market.
I like it. There would have to be some type of baked in mechanic to prevent people from easily duplicating guides without transcribing them. Otherwise you'd run into an issue of people attempting to undercut you with fakes. Or there could be some types of adjustable timer to dictate when a message is read that it will automatically erase itself.
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MySpaceTom
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Posted - 2014.05.20 12:57:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:It just occurred to me that I cold copy my Guides to disk, and sell them on the Market.
You could create an entire subscription based economy out of this! "For the low cost of 250k ISK per week be the first to receive a copy of my epic electronic warfare guide."
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Jadek Menaheim
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Posted - 2014.05.20 13:00:00 -
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MySpaceTom
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2014.05.20 13:06:00 -
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No need to worry about unexpected visitors in the Gentlemen's Quarters...CCP has made that place the domain of one...and it gets lonely.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:00:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:It just occurred to me that I cold copy my Guides to disk, and sell them on the Market. I like it. There would have to be some type of baked in mechanic to prevent people from easily duplicating guides without transcribing them. Otherwise you'd run into an issue of people attempting to undercut you with fakes. Or there could be some types of adjustable timer to dictate when a message is read that it will automatically erase itself.
If people thought it was worth making bootleg copies of my guides it would be bad for my wallet, but good for my ego.
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Chit Hoppened
The Exemplars
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:04:00 -
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Great trap idea...
"HERE HAVE 50 (insert officer grade item here)!!!!"
"Wild 16 Protos appear"
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:53:00 -
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Chit Hoppened wrote:Great trap idea...
"HERE HAVE 50 (insert officer grade item here)!!!!"
"Wild 16 Protos appear"
Brilliant!
Now you have three options.
Edit: good to see you again by the way Chit.
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MySpaceTom
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:59:00 -
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Chit Hoppened wrote:Great trap idea...
"HERE HAVE 50 (insert officer grade item here)!!!!"
"Wild 16 Protos appear"
A notification system was discussed in the other forum. If a notification system was public for when a particular player retrieved a loot crate this means clever players would relatively know how long it takes that person to find the next crate if they specifically designed the first to hold a message pointing toward the next one. You could set up ambush parties this way!
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Chit Hoppened
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2014.05.20 16:00:00 -
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Glad to see you wasn't assimilated by those industrious little fellows as well!
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
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Posted - 2014.05.20 16:23:00 -
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industrious little fellows? what are you referring to?
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Chit Hoppened
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2014.05.20 16:26:00 -
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Too much Top Gear.
It's bleeding into everything.
Anyways, enough derailment.
You could also lead people on wild goose chases that end with all sorts of things.
Mostly lots of deaths.
^ I like that one.
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
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Posted - 2014.05.20 16:56:00 -
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Top Gear references, check.
Those industrious little fellows are winning me over with their gloriously awesome food and fast internet...among many other things.
As for goose chases, it would be interesting if you could purposely build bombs or drone activation beacons into caches to make them traps. There should certainly be some way to deactivate these traps...or should there?
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Chit Hoppened
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Posted - 2014.05.20 17:04:00 -
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"You now have a better understanding of...THIS BOMB!"
60 seconds later, you're either still getting loot or in a new clone somewhere.
Yes, if you can make it, they can break it.
Isn't that one of the things listed in the Gamer's Doctrine?
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
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Posted - 2014.05.21 03:28:00 -
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What are other possibilities and pitfalls of an asynchronous message systems?
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Jadek Menaheim
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Posted - 2014.06.06 21:22:00 -
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Let's talk more to the contraints of this system. Would there be systems in place to prevent how many message containers can be set down to a particular planet for server load?
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
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Posted - 2014.07.02 10:41:00 -
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Is there any developer interest to include a feature like this with accompanied AUR bought empty crates?
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