Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.19 13:51:00 -
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Stacking penalties?
Also, the thing about your comparison of stacking full plates and extenders is that stacking full plates is generally stupid. With the exception of Gallente suits, you have zero regen if you do that. Zero regen on your main HP type will kill you. Even if you're using a Gallente suit, the inbuilt repairer is pitiful. A lot of people seem to think it's great - but consider how long it'll take that Galassault to regen. 470 seconds. That's nearly 8 minutes.
Each solid engagement you have with that fit, you're looking at 5 minutes of downtime before you're full up again. That's not just 'lower regen', that's practically none at all. You can pretty much completely discount that rep on a Galassault - if you're on another armour tanking suit such as an Amarr assault you don't have any regen at all.
Look at the difference between those two fits. They both have approximately the same total HP. However, the second has a greater emphasis on shields, the type which regenerates a lot faster.
Why would you choose the first fit over the second fit? TTK differences are negligible. The second one is faster, has more fully regenerating HP, and has a significantly faster regen rate on that HP. The repair rate on the first fit is negligible, and it's inferior in almost every other way.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.19 22:11:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Yes, we want to look at comparative scaling of ehp/tank modules, whether armor or shield. It is fairly obvious that plate hp/pg is high and we need to make shield extenders competitive Armour hp has to be high to compensate for the disadvantages (no regen and speed penalties). You tried givimg armour and shield similar hp numbers a year ago and it was absolutely ridiculous. There was literally no point in using armour.
This is pretty much my concern.
There are problems with basic plate stacking being too easy to do but I've gone on at ridiculous length about how terrible it was then.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Cross Atu for CPM1
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