DUST Search - No new client side changes planned. No nerfs then?

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Well now that the idea of legion is out; you have to understand how testing has changed; back then test sessions were harder to put together due to having it being on the ps3; now a days they just use the legion client; this equaled more developers fielding than normal generating more game time and behaviors.

That's what probably sparked the internal fear the heavies would shift in the direction of being the only viable suit aside the cloaks as developers began to use them as heavier assaults suits. Community outcry helped CPM urging to not make pre-emptive balance changes based on solely on internal game tests; give the players the chance to prove the notion and meta.

With CCP Rattati around hopefully we shouldn't be making those mistakes anymore with Dust 514. Right now CCP Rattati thinks the meta surrounding brick tanking is causing an imbalance of interesting game play decisions mostly involving the armor plates.If you got a good opinion on how to possibly fix the issue and contribute I urge you head on over to features and ideas stickies and discuss it.


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Glyd Path Nec Tributis 48	Posted - 2014.05.18 11:13:00 - [1] - Quote Does this mean that a mercenary could try a heavy prototype suit and it won't get nerfed until you get a resource back from Legion? Sorry, I almost sneezed my drink though my nose, then I choked. What I meant to say, when the lone resource that works on dust finally get around to fixing something on dust. Are they still planning to nerf the heavy and change (nerf?) all the medium suits? Or are you still gathering data to maximize the QQs and the nerf effect? Nobody at CCP cares because we ain't Legionnaires.
Glyd Path Nec Tributis 48	Posted - 2014.05.18 11:46:00 - [2] - Quote A'Real Fury wrote: all weapon, module, and suit stats are server side. So CCP can still mess with the numbers if they wanted to. It is covered under "balance" issues. Rats. Probably best to not trust them and not spend SP on prototype heavy suits. Unless you have millions to spare I guess. Nobody at CCP cares because we ain't Legionnaires.
Glyd Path Nec Tributis 55	Posted - 2014.05.19 00:30:00 - [3] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Dunno the meta on the field is slowing beginning to show the problems heavies are posing. Not my a lot but slowly; the only thing stopping them seemingly are cloaked scouts. Overall I think it would be just better to buff mediums. There you go making sense. However, CCP stated very clearly that the mediums were incomplete and pushed out without the necessary adjustments to CPU/PG and slots. They did not make clear what the adjustments would be except now we are seeing there is little investment in doing anything in dust. That was also the post when they stated they were deciding how much they were going to nerf the heavies. After the hue and cry they decided they needed more data. Which is saying the only thing that can stop the heavies are the overpowered scouts. Odd thing that. From our side the only thing to counter the OP invisible scouts with shotguns is a heavy as nothing has any chance against the current scouts. Cloaking has seriously broken the ground game. Which is what CCP wanted it would appear. At least the decision making process will stay the same between dust and legion. Bad. Same as the code base. Nobody at CCP cares because we ain't Legionnaires.
Glyd Path Nec Tributis 55	Posted - 2014.05.19 00:55:00 - [4] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Well now that the idea of legion is out; you have to understand how testing has changed; back then test sessions were harder to put together due to having it being on the ps3; now a days they just use the legion client; this equaled more developers fielding than normal generating more game time and behaviors. That's what probably sparked the internal fear the heavies would shift in the direction of being the only viable suit aside the cloaks as developers began to use them as heavier assaults suits. Community outcry helped CPM urging to not make pre-emptive balance changes based on solely on internal game tests; give the players the chance to prove the notion and meta. With CCP Rattati around hopefully we shouldn't be making those mistakes anymore with Dust 514. Right now CCP Rattati thinks the meta surrounding brick tanking is causing an imbalance of interesting game play decisions mostly involving the armor plates.If you got a good opinion on how to possibly fix the issue and contribute I urge you head on over to features and ideas stickies and discuss it. I seriously doubt that one rational mind being added to the irrationality of CCP in general will make one whit of difference. That is assuming rationality on his part, which is not assured as yet. The many mistakes in dust by CCP during testing, beta testing a different game then they released and massive changes on bad or at best incomplete data will not change. These behaviors are in their DNA. Whip sawing players with extreme overreactions to developers not having a single clue how gamers will play the game. That will not change as well, they have gained no insights. Indeed, they buried their collective heads in the sand of PCs and now are pushing dust back to a memory. One that they want to forget. And not work on. They are consistent. I would never stand with one of them near my wallet or at my back. And a slight point of contention. On adding more play testing by developers ... it's basically worthless as actual testing. We have proven that in dust. Because they do not understand gamers. They never have and they never will. EVE scammers, yes. Real gamers, no. Nobody at CCP cares because we ain't Legionnaires.