From what I understand, basically Dust is a full-time beta again like in 2012 except now it's a beta for a game on another platform. Which doesn't bother me as much as it did (now that I've calmed down from fanfest) because I remembered something. I remembered the reason I joined this Beta back in 2012 was because I wanted to help build the greatest persistent shooter ever made.

So, in the spirit of beta testing, here are my thoughts on moving forward with AV versus Vehicles:



We reduce the price of all vehicles and vehicle modules down to dropsuit equivalent ISK values and buff the hell out of all AV weapons. Then spend a week testing it. If AV is too much, take AV down a touch and try another week of testing. Test Tuesday day through Friday, collect feedback Saturday through Monday, make adjustments on Monday, test Tuesday through Friday, etc.

Then once AV v V gets mostly good feedback on the forums, you have gotten close to balance. You can crank tank prices back up AND have good data to send over to the balancing team in the PC port. Then you can make minor tweaks to AV or vehicles to fine-tune the balance. The idea is to get things close first, and right now they are FAR from close.

Balance = Any one player when running AV gear should have a chance against any one person driving a vehicle. A MLT AR can kill a protosuit in the right hands, the same should be said about MLT AV and fully specced tanks. There is one person driving the tank, so it should take one person to kill the tank. Period.

As it stands now - A proto prof. 5 swarm cannot break the rep cycle of vehicles, so a MLT swarm has no chance. Swarms need their projectile speed jacked way up, their original clip size returned, and their original damage back. AV grenades are completely useless unless they are packed, and even then there's only 2 now so our AV grenade damage has been dropped by 33.333_%. Make the packed damage the basic AV nade damage, then bump it up from there. Forge guns are mostly good right now, but they seem to still misfire occasionally and the lower tiers could use a slight damage bump. There is no reason why Plasma Cannons shouldn't do as much damage as a forge gun. The projectile is easily avoided, you have far less ammo, and your clip size is one. You already OHK 99% of all suits with it anyway, so I say make the PLC do equal damage to the breach forge gun.

All this would break AV and vehicle balance.

You're right, its usually 2-3 tanks that are using for protostomping the infantry and destroying your own installations just for points....but seriously you see more tanks involved in the stomping on infantry because they can and its easier to do.

Also the worse thing in Dust is that even when vehicles can tip the balance of power, K:D ratio is > winning the match and it's a mentality that tends to sacrifice newer players and add to their disparage of this game.

I respect you guys... but you guys run b*tch fits.

Particle Cannons, mostly.

Hey Spkr! Your bitchass is being ignored!^

I am saying a "good" person in a free AV suit who fights ANY tank stupid enough to stick around long enough should be able to kill a tank, yes. No vehicle should be able to squat on territory indefinitely when being hit by AV, regardless of tier.

And someone please inform Spkr his brain dead comments are being ignored, I don't have the energy to do it myself.

I've had more than enough conversations with you and English Snake over the last 2 years to last a lifetime. I'd rather not rehash the exact same bullshitt arguments you pull outta your ass every time I talk to you, so I leave it to others to deal with your drivel. Have fun with that.

Him not having a conversation with you is actually the mature and "adult" thing to do, as your opinion is about as well regarded as a Tabloid.

It wouldn't accomplish anything, as you'd only repeat the same arguments that Baal, I, and just about everyone from the AV Community has constantly disproved since last year.

Though I sincerely hope that it is you who does not have children, as you'll probably raise them to believe that they are superior/better than another human.

If your blasters and instant infantry killers get nerfed your tanks can be better fyi.