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Mary Lilac wrote:

Texas Killionaire wrote:

Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I'm gonna drop about 1,100 on parts.

Depends on a ton of things

1) what country do you reside in

2) Is this for a specific title? Is that title out yet?

3) IS it possible to wait? When do you HAVE to have it done by?

4)Do you need an OS (I know, you should buy one but I won't force you too)? Do you have a preference?

5) Do you wish to watercool it? It is ridiculously easy to watercool, and your overclocking potential shoots way way up.

6) Are you concerned with heat output/power usage?

7) What are the specific goals you have in mind? Large capacity? Lotsa Ram? Upgradability (buying an older socket that might be on it's way out soon means limited upgradability)?

8) Do you require a monitor? Mouse/KB? Chair/desk? Are you hooking up to a TV?

See if you are attemping to build this PC for a game that isn't even a game yet (legion) you should wait. Actually if it is for any game in the future you should wait. The longer you can wait to build a PC the better performance you will get for your dollar.

Country makes a huge difference in pricing

Water cooling effects case and overall budget. But if you take care of the watercooling parts, they are highly transferable.

An OS will take up 10% of your budget.

The heat output of a gaming rig can be immense. If this computer is to be situated in a small room with massive ventilation capabilites, it will turn into an oven in the summer.

There is a lot of stuff to consider, and as such any system someone would recommend you without all of this information would most likely not fit your needs. So please explain in detail what your goals/restraints/needs are.

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Texas Killionaire Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 194	Posted - 2014.05.15 23:07:00 - [1] - Quote Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I'm gonna drop about 1,100 on parts. If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win. Jello Biafra = God AQUPI
Ducttape Tinker Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 185	Posted - 2014.05.15 23:10:00 - [2] - Quote LEAVE THIS FORUM My tip Markdown
Marc Rime 399	Posted - 2014.05.15 23:15:00 - [3] - Quote 1,100 what? You might also want to specify if the price should include a display, mouse&keyboard etc. Oh, and maybe not ask that question in the forum for a console game. Especially not one that has quite a bit of PC vs console drama atm... unless you're trolling, that is.
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 321	Posted - 2014.05.15 23:38:00 - [4] - Quote Texas Killionaire wrote: Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I'm gonna drop about 1,100 on parts. go with an I5 4670K you can overclock if you want to later but you shouldnt need to an I7 is nice but not worth it at the moment unless you plan on baking a video project for hours make sure the motherboard you get has enough expansion for what you want now and what you might want in the future your power supply i'd go with a something around 750 watts you may not use that much but it will be nice to know you have the extra wattage when you want a better graphics card or 2 in crossfire or SLI go on www.newegg.com they have some decent bundle deals DIY bundles http://www.newegg.com/DIY-PC-SuperCombos/PromotionStore/ID-33 if your trying to get the most for your money i would shop newegg and then buy from amazon.com see you on other games GHOST RECON PHANTOMS Becuase Ben Affleck was the bomb HAWKEN Warframe STO Steam Benja865
Virtual Riot Rebels New Republic INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 413	Posted - 2014.05.15 23:39:00 - [5] - Quote Go amd if you want the best bang for your buck go intel/nvidia if you want lots of bells and whistles don't skimp on the power supply unit leave room in your budget for integrated liquid cooling 2x low/medium end graphics cards are (usually) better than 1 high end graphics card Me? I have amd cpu and mobo, but I use a Nvidia 660ti for my card more cores on the processor does not = better flashy lights mean nothing steeleries makes durable high performance peripherals, while not totally destroying your wallet Fixing FGs > all
Tau Lai Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 144	Posted - 2014.05.15 23:59:00 - [6] - Quote Texas Killionaire wrote: Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I'm gonna drop about 1,100 on parts. Alienware. Signature image goes here
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 1536	Posted - 2014.05.16 00:02:00 - [7] - Quote i spent about that on my pc... and more than half was on the 3 monitors :) and stay away from alienware... it nothing but bling.... you could build a better one that won't die a year or 2 later for less All Hail Legion
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1044	Posted - 2014.05.16 00:05:00 - [8] - Quote Tau Lai wrote: Texas Killionaire wrote: Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I'm gonna drop about 1,100 on parts. Alienware. So get ripped off is your advice. Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it, damn you! Turns out I wont.
Maximus Tarashara Red Star. EoN. 74	Posted - 2014.05.16 00:05:00 - [9] - Quote You can get a gaming laptop for just $500 on ebay......just saying Also known as the pet shop owner of Red Star.
noobsniper the 2nd Kestrel Mercenary Group 549	Posted - 2014.05.16 00:05:00 - [10] - Quote Tau Lai wrote: Texas Killionaire wrote: Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I'm gonna drop about 1,100 on parts. Alienware. Your a awful person CEO of Kestrel Mercenary Group Recruitment status: open No scrubs allowed that means you random blueberry

Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 321	Posted - 2014.05.16 00:11:00 - [11] - Quote Tau Lai wrote: Texas Killionaire wrote: Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I'm gonna drop about 1,100 on parts. Alienware. i wish there was a thumbs down button for this post DO NOT BUY DELL if you want a gaming laptop ASUS makes better products than Dells alienware at a lot less cost so does MSI and Toshiba but wait he said he was building a pc alienware is not for building thats like telling a Jeep owner to buy one that's already lifted and customized horrible advice see you on other games GHOST RECON PHANTOMS Becuase Ben Affleck was the bomb HAWKEN Warframe STO Steam Benja865
knight of 6 SVER True Blood 1946	Posted - 2014.05.16 00:15:00 - [12] - Quote take you budget for speakers, keyboard, mic/headset, mouse, monitor, and OS off the top. don't skimp on the power supply. make sure you like the peripherals you buy you'll be spending a lot of time with them. my gif is gone, DINKLEBURG!! Ko6, scout
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 321	Posted - 2014.05.16 00:15:00 - [13] - Quote Maximus Tarashara wrote: You can get a gaming laptop for just $500 on ebay......just saying this is true this is my laptop http://support.toshiba.com/support/modelHome?freeText=3574906 I can comfortably play any console game at 30-45 fps (consoles are usually 30fps) cant play Witcher... or crysis.... (10-15fps) but the built in Intel HD 4000 series are actualy pretty good for integrated... search Youtube for intel HD 4000 I used this while deployed to afghanistan and could play Skyrim without issue and mass effect 3 see you on other games GHOST RECON PHANTOMS Becuase Ben Affleck was the bomb HAWKEN Warframe STO Steam Benja865
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1044	Posted - 2014.05.16 00:16:00 - [14] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: Go amd if you want the best bang for your buck go intel/nvidia if you want lots of bells and whistles don't skimp on the power supply unit leave room in your budget for integrated liquid cooling 2x low/medium end graphics cards are (usually) better than 1 high end graphics card Me? I have amd cpu and mobo, but I use a Nvidia 660ti for my card more cores on the processor does not = better flashy lights mean nothing steeleries makes durable high performance peripherals, while not totally destroying your wallet I use AMD as well along with AMD video cards, a lot cheaper processor wise and I've never had any performance issues. As for building one, I always shop for what I really want then over the course of a week or so make changes to reduce cost while giving up the least performance wise. Having the latest and greatest is nice but it won't be the latest or greatest for long so you can save a lot by going down a tier. Remember you can always build a core system and add to it over time, I bought 1 video card to start then the second later once they dropped in price. Also got a processor with good overclocking ability for when I do need a performance boost down the line. Mostly just don't rush it, take the time to find the best bang for your buck. Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it, damn you! Turns out I wont.
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 473	Posted - 2014.05.16 00:23:00 - [15] - Quote Texas Killionaire wrote: Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I'm gonna drop about 1,100 on parts. Depends on a ton of things 1) what country do you reside in 2) Is this for a specific title? Is that title out yet? 3) IS it possible to wait? When do you HAVE to have it done by? 4)Do you need an OS (I know, you should buy one but I won't force you too)? Do you have a preference? 5) Do you wish to watercool it? It is ridiculously easy to watercool, and your overclocking potential shoots way way up. 6) Are you concerned with heat output/power usage? 7) What are the specific goals you have in mind? Large capacity? Lotsa Ram? Upgradability (buying an older socket that might be on it's way out soon means limited upgradability)? 8) Do you require a monitor? Mouse/KB? Chair/desk? Are you hooking up to a TV? See if you are attemping to build this PC for a game that isn't even a game yet (legion) you should wait. Actually if it is for any game in the future you should wait. The longer you can wait to build a PC the better performance you will get for your dollar. Country makes a huge difference in pricing Water cooling effects case and overall budget. But if you take care of the watercooling parts, they are highly transferable. An OS will take up 10% of your budget. The heat output of a gaming rig can be immense. If this computer is to be situated in a small room with massive ventilation capabilites, it will turn into an oven in the summer. There is a lot of stuff to consider, and as such any system someone would recommend you without all of this information would most likely not fit your needs. So please explain in detail what your goals/restraints/needs are. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15041	Posted - 2014.05.16 02:38:00 - [16] - Quote Guide to build or guide to what parts together? Also before you commit post your fit; most folks who are computer savvy can tell you if you got a conflict (like wrong cpu for board ect ect.) CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 144	Posted - 2014.05.16 03:16:00 - [17] - Quote I would sugest formulating your question at www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/ Lots of knowledgeable people there. Also, if you can wait, wait until the second semester. Intel is releasing the Devil`s Canyon lineup of CPU`s. You wont want to skip the latest tech just for a couple of months, for a machine that will be years with you.
Texas Killionaire Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 194	Posted - 2014.05.16 04:51:00 - [18] - Quote Mary Lilac wrote: Texas Killionaire wrote: Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I'm gonna drop about 1,100 on parts. Depends on a ton of things 1) what country do you reside in 2) Is this for a specific title? Is that title out yet? 3) IS it possible to wait? When do you HAVE to have it done by? 4)Do you need an OS (I know, you should buy one but I won't force you too)? Do you have a preference? 5) Do you wish to watercool it? It is ridiculously easy to watercool, and your overclocking potential shoots way way up. 6) Are you concerned with heat output/power usage? 7) What are the specific goals you have in mind? Large capacity? Lotsa Ram? Upgradability (buying an older socket that might be on it's way out soon means limited upgradability)? 8) Do you require a monitor? Mouse/KB? Chair/desk? Are you hooking up to a TV? See if you are attemping to build this PC for a game that isn't even a game yet (legion) you should wait. Actually if it is for any game in the future you should wait. The longer you can wait to build a PC the better performance you will get for your dollar. Country makes a huge difference in pricing Water cooling effects case and overall budget. But if you take care of the watercooling parts, they are highly transferable. An OS will take up 10% of your budget. The heat output of a gaming rig can be immense. If this computer is to be situated in a small room with massive ventilation capabilites, it will turn into an oven in the summer. There is a lot of stuff to consider, and as such any system someone would recommend you without all of this information would most likely not fit your needs. So please explain in detail what your goals/restraints/needs are. I live in Texas. No deadline, still saving money. Want to play ESO and DayZ very comfortably. Will prob play Legion (sorry). Thank you all for your advice If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win. Jello Biafra = God AQUPI
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1084	Posted - 2014.05.16 04:54:00 - [19] - Quote Tom's hardware website. imo very straightforward advice. My personal recommendation is not to spend that much money. You can build a decent rig (monitor and peripheral devices not included, of course) for $600. PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 1526	Posted - 2014.05.16 04:57:00 - [20] - Quote why are you putting 1100 out for parts? According to all the neckbeards on these forums, you can put together a god-tier rig for the cost of a pack of gum. CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.

DozersMouse XIII Inner.Hell 807	Posted - 2014.05.16 04:58:00 - [21] - Quote yeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss drink that CCP koolaid don't harm the hamsters
McFurious TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 780	Posted - 2014.05.16 04:58:00 - [22] - Quote I just bought some major upgrades. I got the i5 4670 cpu with a Corsair H60 watercooler for it. Mpower motherboard. 8 gigs of Ripjaws 2400 RAM. 850 watt power supply because I plan on SLI'ing 2 or 3 cards eventually. The only thing I have left to get is the graphics card. Make sure your graphics card supports DirectX 11. GTX 770 is the card everyone keeps recomending to me and what I plan on getting in the near future. Half Irish. Often angry. Grizzled Masshole Closed Beta Vet PC > Console
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15043	Posted - 2014.05.16 05:02:00 - [23] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: why are you putting 1100 out for parts? According to all the neckbeards on these forums, you can put together a god-tier rig for the cost of a pack of gum. http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=raspberrypi&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=31587235237&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11880141665950954777&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_3xfryiuinq_b Play's minecraft. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2923	Posted - 2014.05.16 05:03:00 - [24] - Quote Post on a forum more dedicated to PC building. I used overclock.net when i built mine in 2011, they were nice people and quite helpful. Imo 1100 is a perfect budget for a long lasting gaming rig. Get a decent mid-tier card like a R9 280X or a 760/770 and in a year or two when they are cheaper you can pick a new/used one up for an SLi or CFX configuration (dual gfx cards) and then have all the power you will ever need for the next 4-5 years.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 9714	Posted - 2014.05.16 05:13:00 - [25] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: leave room in your budget for integrated liquid cooling That's extremely pointless, unless you're an overclocking freak. Air cooling will get you by just fine, especially the quality coolers. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 479	Posted - 2014.05.16 05:24:00 - [26] - Quote Texas Killionaire wrote: I live in Texas. No deadline, still saving money. Want to play ESO and DayZ very comfortably. Will prob play Legion (sorry). Thank you all for your advice Sorry it took so long for the reply. Other forum go'ers are right, tomshardware, overclock.net, anandtech, these are forums that you will want to lurk in for a little while to figure out the basics of what means what, and the type of questions to ask. Stay away from... well here, reddit, and other types of unstructured places because the conversations are less focused and there are very few people with the knowledge to call others on their B.S. (like do not trust one word out of Iron Wolf Sabre's mouth, he has a record of overreaching his knowledge base) When you can be pretty confident you really know what the differences between SSDs and HDDs are as far as performance, when you know why you might want a 6.0 GBPS Sata capable motherboard, when you understand why people choose NVIDIA or AMD cards, then you can move forward. I know this is asking a lot, but to educate yourself on why you should build it, why you should use each component, will allow you to 1) Eliminate buyers remorse and more importantly (and probably linked) 2) Know exactly what you are getting Now I am by no way saying you should go as far as to understand intel's die shrink roadmaps, or even what a die size is (this knowledge is over the top for building your own PC), just spend a few hours reading their forums. Just the fact that you use an internet forum puts you in the top 10% of people on the internet as far as being computer savy. If this is something tat you would like to pursue, I have every faith in your ability to do so. Of course if you have more questions to get up-to-speed about the lingo, the hardware, or maybe a broad overview of how a computer actually works, I am more than willing to help. One last thing, do not believe any claims unless you can verify those claims from 5-10 independant sources. There is a ton of fanboyism when it comes to computer hardware brands, so take EVERYTHING with a grain of salt. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Arron Rift Better Hide R Die 241	Posted - 2014.05.16 05:26:00 - [27] - Quote My biggest suggestion is to go talk with the people over at "tom's hardware" .com. The people on their forums love talking about computers and it is a lot like Yahoo answers for PC. They were a huge help when I was picking parts for my PC and putting it together, and I still pop in there whenever I'm considering an upgrade to see if anyone there has any suggestions/warnings. My other suggestion is take your time picking your parts. In hindsight that was actually the toughest part for me, and the place were I would now have done things differently.
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1243	Posted - 2014.05.16 05:29:00 - [28] - Quote Marc Rime wrote: 1,100 what? You might also want to specify if the price should include a display, mouse&keyboard etc. Oh, and maybe not ask that question in the forum for a console game. Especially not one that has quite a bit of PC vs console drama atm... unless you're trolling, that is. Calm da fuq down bro
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 479	Posted - 2014.05.16 05:35:00 - [29] - Quote I know I already said one last thing, but this is really the last thing. Building your own PC is a lot of fun to a lot of people. When you get everything together on your first build, you think it is altogether anyway, and you power it on with that nervous/excited feeling compounded by worry (of breaking stuff).... and then it all comes together and you see that BIOS screen, man it is a good feeling. Definately, at the very least, invest in THIS OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. It is a strap to help eliminate Electro-static-Discharge. The alligator clip on the end is meant to clip on to some type of grounded metal (such as water pipes), and you can remove it to stick it into the ground plug hole on your wall outlet. Disregard the Voltage markings on the drawing (they are not quite accurate anyway). I can not tell you how many idiots put computers together without ESD straps. Yes, idiots. You can easily discharge a VERY strong voltage into so many places without even knowing it. The fact that the discharge doesn't immediately kill the component doesn't mean that there wasn't significant damage done, and the overall life of that component may have suffered for it. All over $5. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2549	Posted - 2014.05.16 10:58:00 - [30] - Quote Mary Lilac wrote: I can not tell you how many idiots put computers together without ESD straps. Yes, idiots. You can easily discharge a VERY strong voltage into so many places without even knowing it. The fact that the discharge doesn't immediately kill the component doesn't mean that there wasn't significant damage done, and the overall life of that component may have suffered for it. All over $5. This is some of the best advice on here. Static discharge will ruin your computer and you won't even notice. It takes upwards of 2000 volts just to feel the discharge and around 3000 just to see it and 50 volts can seriously damage components. Use a strap and connect it to a ground. The eyelets that look like this are for grounding. I had mine built for me by CyberPower and I love mine. You can customize your build on the site, you get a professionally built PC and tech support. I have no complaints about my experience with CP or their work. The overclock is saved in the bios on mine so I got "professional overclock" for free. I also got a free netbook when I bought mine. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/ As for recommendations I would not skimp on a graphics card, go USB3 if it doesn't have it standard, raid0 HDD is better for gaming, liquid cooling if you are going to OC, the power supply may not seem that important but it is one of the most important parts and try to get more than you think you need because it will be used in the future. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke



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