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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.14 18:33:00 -
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Personally I'm a fan of the Dust system, but would prefer to see it iterated upon and presented initially with a much more professional New Player Experience and perhaps another rebalance of how modules interact.
CCP Z's system to me simply sounds like its setup to be simplified for the sake of reaching out to a much dumber audience, while limiting our options and what we are allowed to do with our SP. Dropsuits would not be consumable, and everything inside of that tree is trained like a "class" in a fantasy MMO like WoW rather than as an individual skill that can be carried from one suit to another.
If you are not interested in seeing Legion go in this direction, please sign here. Please note that any comments relating to respec mechanics or improved matchmaking should be kept separate from your decision to sign here, as that kind of thing is really a completely independent issue. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4069
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Posted - 2014.05.14 18:39:00 -
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To be clear, I do give CCP Z credit for trying to do something new for the game. This is definitely not an attack on his efforts, it just isn't a good fit for this game at all. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.14 22:52:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:I can't say if I like it or not, as there is often a disparity between how things function in action and how they look on paper. Let us all beta test, so we can give an informed opinion.
But... based on what little I know, I am leaning towards not liking it, as it seems to remove a significant amount of customization and freedom of progression, and it seems to promote waste.
While it seems a reasonable request to "just try it" I would like to remind you that a lack of options on paper isn't going to feel more acceptable when your options are taken away from you for real.
And I would also like to point out that the further CCP gets into this progression tree development, the less likely they are to back out -- even if the entire fanbase is in an uproar over how bad it is. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.14 23:50:00 -
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If it makes it to beta, there will already be far too much investment into the system to justify removing it Minotaur. Every other design choice in the game will revolve around it.
When the core of the game is so entirely bad that the community outright rejects it, you have the occasional, and very very rare, total reboot. That is what you are getting with Legion. They are not going to reboot a reboot. When Legion's system comes out, thats it. You're not getting another one. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.15 01:11:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Sure...
Besides the evidently rather biased OP, whats up with this new Progression System besides having everything organized into stupid Classes with ARs in a group with Assault suits?
Well, everyone is biased. I'm just honest about it. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.15 04:34:00 -
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Well... we kinda did check it out.
There's a lot of "This is what I'm trying to do. I understand what you want, but this is what I'm trying to do instead."
See, that's where communication breaks down. We said our piece, he said his piece, and the overall impression is he's going to keep going with his plan regardless of whether or not the community wants it. It's pretty difficult to carry on a conversation in that manner.
So, this is a grander gesture of rejection. It's not like I wanted to make one of these. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4105
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Posted - 2014.05.15 04:37:00 -
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Alright, so how would you recommend we deal with a developer who seems disinterested in using any feedback that doesn't agree with his initial vision? |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.15 04:46:00 -
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Well, I'll go back to waiting but I am really not very optimistic from the exchanges ive seen so far. I'll try to be a little more patient with this.
Just saying though, the devs of old would back my petitions in a heartbeat. I guess the new school crowd just doesn't have what it takes to get with the movement... |
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