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Nyctohylophobia
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:04:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:
Additionally, there are hardware advantages to PS4 that you've ignored - for instance, 8GB of shared GDDR5 and an extremely fast pipeline throughout the system. You can easily get higher teraflop counts on PC GPUs but you can not access all of that advantage as there are typically bottlenecks elsewhere in the system. Right now this is not such an issue, but most AAA games coming out in two years time will have been designed from the ground up with PS4-like architecture in mind.
Yes, the PS4 has 8GB of GDDR5 but still uses a APU that delivers about 1.84 TFLOPS performance (or roughly the equalivant of a 7870) and would have been the pinnicle of console gaming had the PS4 launched four years ago instead of November last year. Now, fast forward to May 2014 and we have two "next-gen" consoles from M$ and Sony that despite the hardware advantages that you mention continue to underperform, underdeliver and ultimately disappoint.
Lastly, PS4-like architecture? LOL!  |
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:23:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Console exclusives >>> PC exclusives
Only good games count toward library size.
I have yet to see a single console exclusive that is objectively mindbogglingly good. |
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Posted - 2014.05.14 18:51:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:
Of the games I've played, console exclusive are of a higher quality.
Because you have nothing to compare with on PC. |
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Posted - 2014.05.14 20:55:00 -
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lampwizard wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:I've never encountered any cheating problems in an online PC game. Play more
Care to point me in a direction where cheating is rampant? I know Rust and DayZ is "full of cheaters" but we are talking about two games in alpha stage. |
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Posted - 2014.05.15 01:49:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Nyctohylophobia wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
Of the games I've played, console exclusive are of a higher quality.
Because you have nothing to compare with on PC. Ive played PC games Not that big of a fan personally.
Guess this is a good bye of sorts then as Legion is coming to PC and not potato station 4. |
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Posted - 2014.05.15 04:03:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Nyctohylophobia wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:
Additionally, there are hardware advantages to PS4 that you've ignored - for instance, 8GB of shared GDDR5 and an extremely fast pipeline throughout the system. You can easily get higher teraflop counts on PC GPUs but you can not access all of that advantage as there are typically bottlenecks elsewhere in the system. Right now this is not such an issue, but most AAA games coming out in two years time will have been designed from the ground up with PS4-like architecture in mind.
Yes, the PS4 has 8GB of GDDR5 but still uses a APU that delivers about 1.84 TFLOPS performance (or roughly the equalivant of a 7870) and would have been the pinnicle of console gaming had the PS4 launched four years ago instead of November last year. Now, fast forward to May 2014 and we have two "next-gen" consoles from M$ and Sony that despite the hardware advantages that you mention continue to underperform, underdeliver and ultimately disappoint. Lastly, PS4-like architecture? LOL! PS4 architecture is being used in next gen cards and the unified memory is ahead of its time, games aren't using unified memory in PC. The PS4 architecture changed how graphics cards will be built from now on.
There is no "PS4 architecture" as it is still AMDs 'Jaguar' which is still a x86 architecture. Furthermore, PC stands for Personal Computer and is a open and hardware agnostic platform whereas AMD produces several things but no PCs and there only one that will be building graphics cards designed with Mantle in mind is AMD, not Nvidia. |
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Posted - 2014.05.15 04:09:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:
The PC is the wins in power every time if you have the money to spend on high end components. The PC is more versitile and can do more everyday things but is more expensive to use while gaming. Higher end cards pull like 150W while gaming and that doesn't include the rest of the system. PCs are more cumbersome and are not a nice to look at or as compact as consoles so connecting them to the big screen is ugly and usually takes up much more space. With PCs all is not included. Gaming mice and keyboards offer better performance, head sets and speakers are needed and a monitor is expensive if you don't have a nice one or can't connect it to your TV. Even then the extra cord needed to connect to the TV is another price and some TV may not have enough inputs to accommodate the extra cord. The Blueray player is another component that will cost extra if compared to a standard DVD in lots of PCs.
Do you want me to pick your argument apart piece for piece? And where the actual **** did you learn English? I mean, I am not natively English speaking but holy jumping shitballs! |
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Posted - 2014.05.15 06:21:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Nyctohylophobia wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:
The PC is the wins in power every time if you have the money to spend on high end components. The PC is more versitile and can do more everyday things but is more expensive to use while gaming. Higher end cards pull like 150W while gaming and that doesn't include the rest of the system. PCs are more cumbersome and are not a nice to look at or as compact as consoles so connecting them to the big screen is ugly and usually takes up much more space. With PCs all is not included. Gaming mice and keyboards offer better performance, head sets and speakers are needed and a monitor is expensive if you don't have a nice one or can't connect it to your TV. Even then the extra cord needed to connect to the TV is another price and some TV may not have enough inputs to accommodate the extra cord. The Blueray player is another component that will cost extra if compared to a standard DVD in lots of PCs.
Do you want me to pick your argument apart piece for piece? And where the actual **** did you learn English? I mean, I am not natively English speaking but holy jumping shitballs! Sorry my English doesn't hold up to yours. Please feel free to pick my argument apart, it will be fun for both of us.
A PC doesn't need to come in a big tower, you can get a lot of performance into a case like the Fractal Design Node 304 using the mITX form factor and while it is not as compact as as a console, it is not cumbersome either. The Node 304's minimalistic design makes it blend in next to my reciever sitting in my TV bench under the 50" Panasonic and serves as my Steambox, HTPC and emulatorbox. As for cables, I use a HDMI cable to the TV and a optical to my reciever. Aside from a cheap, spill proof keyboard and a really old Logitech MX518, I use two wired Xbox 360 controllers.
Media gets streamed from FreeNAS box that sits in a closet in the basement over a wired gigabit network and I download games from Steam at 10mbit\s.
Want specs on my Node 304? |
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