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Posted - 2014.05.12 13:03:00 -
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So AE can no long hide from the truth of their decision to burn PFC:
http://pastebin.com/P7vaa2iJ
After the alliance meeting DNSBlack, Kujo, and myself were to meet so I could advocate for keeping PFC. Unfortunately Kujo has no power against his AE mob. Djinn Rampage with his director cronies lead the pitchfork wielding masses to PFC and burned it. Since I can not fight members of my alliance I was forced to end the PFC contract but I did what I could to save some councilors by hiding their districts behind ERA and continuing to pay them the ISK from their districts. The hope was that after Fanfest either PFC as it was or a new form of it could be restored.
AE can try to spread it's lies amongst the new Donut, but the truth is plain to see. Julius/Roman of DDB (now a member of ERA) asked for calm and AE ignored even him. AE was blind with their hate for me. AE has no real value for the mid tier and they are only interested in themselves. AE's goal was to tarnish NF's reputation for fulfilling their contracts and destroy something I had been working for months to create. The community has put their faith in them and this is the result.
Some highlights:
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:00:30 ] Roner General > pfc will burn
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:00:49 ] Kane Spero > PFC is fine :P
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:47:14 ] Julius Romulus Liskus > x0scarM1ke Listen, I understand whats going on. We want 100percent. I agree, so do I, but an ally has made a deal. Until that deal can be negotiated to work for our alliance...lets not make an ally break his word
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:47:22 ] Gideon McAllistar > ^tl;dr
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:47:32 ] Julius Romulus Liskus > Lets wait, and discuss a middle ground option
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:47:34 ] Rannici > lol
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:47:43 ] Kristina Gouda > what is the benefit of holding 100% districts? it sounds just challenging against all the others.
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:47:44 ] Shiyou Hidiyoshi > What Julius said
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:47:48 ] x0scarM1ke > ok kain ain't my boss, idc what he does, thats NF not DNS as a whole
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:47:48 ] Fiddlestax Atruin > negative feedback corps have profited greatly from keeping contracts
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:47:50 ] Blizz the Lion > Lets not Blue up everything either
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:00 ] DJINN Rampage > that contract has ZERO to do with AE.
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:05 ] x0scarM1ke > pay me
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:10 ] Kane Spero > OUr contract is our word and it will NOT be broken.
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:13 ] Kane Spero > Period.
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:16 ] Shiyou Hidiyoshi > ^
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:17 ] x0scarM1ke > so pay us kane
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:24 ] Kane Spero > Fight in a PFC match.
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:26 ] Fiddlestax Atruin > we dont get pfc funds, the mercs do
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:29 ] DJINN Rampage > your word. not ours.
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:33 ] Roner General > extorting pfc
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:36 ] Fiddlestax Atruin > we get 0$ from pfc
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:37 ] Julius Romulus Liskus > x0scarM1ke Stop being unreasonable. Lets try a simpler solution
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:49:21 ] DJINN Rampage > why? oddelulf is too pretty for these scrubs tbh
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Posted - 2014.05.12 13:07:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:here's the thing, we want to give you guys more content... so we're taking PFC in order to force CCP's hand in opening up more districts.
Marauder has been appointed CEO per a coup d'etat and has sent us on this adventurous feet.
that is all.
~Dust's favorite unofficial AE. Representative.
QQ kain.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=152645
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Posted - 2014.05.12 13:45:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2154514#post2154514
AE will continue to create bureaucracy to keep you all from the districts you fought for. They could easily sell off all their land like ERA has done with the districts we defended and reset PC in a day, but they are too addicted to passive ISK. Nyain San being the worst offender. They sit on 400 billion ISK yet they still want to force the community off the board and hold 30% for themselves.
All of the top tier care of nothing more then their next paycheck from choosing to not fight.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 13:48:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:Well, clearly AE has never listened to this song.
OMG, one of may favorite songs ever. Fallout for the win. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j15Uee_mL3A
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Posted - 2014.05.12 13:56:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:SteelDark Knight wrote:Once hostilities between ERA and General Tso's forces cease I will begin transfer of A.E districts to qualified parties. However, it appears that some prior statements are not being honored and hostilities continue and as such my efforts are being delayed.
Kain Spero, please honor your word (I have know you to be a man of your word) so that I can redistribute these districts as I stated I would. It is time to move forward in to a new age in Molden Heath. Have Nyain San cease their attacks and the districts will go unoccupied. Nyain San made it clear to me on Skype they have no intention of giving all of ERA's land to the community. More so then even AE Nyain San has proven they have no honor and will only move the districts off the board. I will defend the land for the community and continue to sell off anything I am able to defend. You can hide behind your bureaucracy, but I have proven that all will be reset.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 14:09:00 -
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Brutal BRUTAS wrote:
lies. you dont have any say over NS decisions. please do not try to twist the hate towards others anymore. your transparent. how do you live with yourself?
Quite well, I've honored my contracts and never attack members of my own alliance. Can you say the same?
Your double talk is obvious and your lack of honor brings Shame to all of the Japanese players in this game.
Nyain San = FúÅsêçpéèFÇà *** S+ìsÉìF¬ëpü¬ *** püépüÅ *** sÉîsºôpü¿tò¦µÇºpüºµàïs¦ªpüîsñëpéÅpéïS¦¦ *** püïpü+pü¿pü¿ *** pâûpâ¬pââpüô *** tî½püïpü¦péè *** S¦îT¥óµÇº *** Fí¿FúÅ *** TÖ¦µùÑsÉæ
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Posted - 2014.05.12 14:18:00 -
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Brutal BRUTAS wrote:Kain Spero wrote:Brutal BRUTAS wrote:
lies. you dont have any say over NS decisions. please do not try to twist the hate towards others anymore. your transparent. how do you live with yourself?
Quite well, I've honored my contracts and never attack members of my own alliance. Can you say the same? Your double talk is obvious and your lack of honor brings Shame to all of the Japanese players in this game. Nyain San = FúÅsêçpéèFÇà *** S+ìsÉìF¬ëpü¬ *** püépüÅ *** sÉîsºôpü¿tò¦µÇºpüºµàïs¦ªpüîsñëpéÅpéïS¦¦ *** püïpü+pü¿pü¿ *** pâûpâ¬pââpüô *** tî½püïpü¦péè *** S¦îT¥óµÇº *** Fí¿FúÅ *** TÖ¦µùÑsÉæ like i said, you cant speak of honor when you have none. and we attacked at the same time you did ma ginger homie. why do you lie?
I have the times and the mails and www.stuff514.com doesn't lie.
You should be glad so few of you members speak english well. Otherwise they would be calling for your head because of the Shame you have brought upon your Dust family.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 14:35:00 -
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Brutal BRUTAS wrote: your link means nothing. nyain hasnt made any statements about the details of escrow districts, other than most will be given away. we arent going to give anything away untill escrow is gone and the dust settles. then were giving away districts to corps that we feel deserve it. not kains choice. ours. weve already spoken to some of the smaller corps that will be receiving your land. your all propaganda no truth
If you want to make sure only corps that deserve districts have them then Nyain San should give all of theirs away. As expected AE and Nyain San put conditions to delay giving their land to the community. Farm that ISK. That is all you are good for. Like a failed student that couldn't pass their exams Nyain San is spoon fed ISK from no effort.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 14:46:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:The funny part of all this is, we've not even started giving the districts away yet, but you're already declaring we are keeping them all. Had you not gone back on your word, the process may have started this evening. We're not giving the districts away just so you can take them from some one else and use them to stick around in MH longer. Prove you are for the community Kane, just leave and get it over with. That was the purpose of your post when you stated you had removed roles and you wanted the community to see we were telling lies.
I know for a fact you aren't giving all your land away. My little birds have already told me your plans to keep Kadlina. Land that was in fact given to you.
"We're giving it all up!" Is in fact a lie. Prove me wrong and start selling off districts. Or prove me right and keep adding rules and conditions to your promise.
How about when ERA is gone AE truly prove that it is giving up all its land and give up Kadlina first then?
The fact is that you are all impostors anyways the true Ancient Exiles died long ago and was replaced with a mob of children. I was proud of what Ancient Exiles accomplished but Ancient Exiles(.) is a farce full of traitors and scum.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 14:49:00 -
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noobsniper the 2nd wrote:QQ kain all mad and **** cause he can't have things his way ;_; QQ moar plz your tears are the best tears
Oh no QQ here. The real QQ will be if after all of your betrayal passive ISK is removed. Then we'll se how long before you all turn on each other. FA already has a dagger to AE's back.
If the free ISK goes away what will you do then but eye your friends as meat when you begin to starve.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 15:00:00 -
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LIe down with dogs and you wake up with fleas.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 15:10:00 -
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I wanted to prove a point and boy have you guys done a doozy. Even with the donut blown up in took less than a day for it to form again. That impressed even myself. I thought there would be a bit more haggling.
Laid before us is a situation that exemplifies what I have said all along and that is that passive ISK must burn for there to be any chance of change or health in Planetary Conquest. The cycle will just repeat itself. The fact that I had to take direct action counter to what the in-game mechanics are instructing me to do to temporarily break up the Blue Donut makes an even stronger case.
In the end it is shown that you all can't help yourself. You are addicted to passive ISK like a drug and you will do anything to get your fix even if it drives content from the game. With passive ISK removed corps will have no choice but to fight each other for wealth.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 15:17:00 -
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843 Epidemic wrote:Atiim wrote:843 Epidemic wrote:Omg, Kane.
Just SHUT. UP.
No-one cares. Said the person in the new donut... We have been in Tso's this whole time you friggin' noodle. We had no idea all of them were moving in. You can't have a go at me, also even it was anything to do with us, I haven't been playing Dust for about 2 months due to exams. Return to your chambers, Sota's balls aren't going to suck themselves. 
Well, I have a couple districts on PFC left to defend and hopefully hand off. You should keep an eye on what goes unoccupied because while I want to get people back on PFC the powers that be don't really seem to want it.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 15:20:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:Kain Spero wrote:I wanted to prove a point and boy have you guys done a doozy. Even with the donut blown up in took less than a day for it to form again. That impressed even myself. I thought there would be a bit more haggling.
Laid before us is a situation that exemplifies what I have said all along and that is that passive ISK must burn for there to be any chance of change or health in Planetary Conquest. The cycle will just repeat itself. The fact that I had to take direct action counter to what the in-game mechanics are instructing me to do to temporarily break up the Blue Donut makes an even stronger case.
In the end it is shown that you all can't help yourself. You are addicted to passive ISK like a drug and you will do anything to get your fix even if it drives content from the game. With passive ISK removed corps will have no choice but to fight each other for wealth. You've done nothing Kane. You are not the hero of anything here. Move along. You have some roles you should be removing from your players so this can get over with.
You all dance very well. It's quite nice to sit back and watch as entities that think that they act with the utmost independence follow a path so obviously laid before you.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 15:24:00 -
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Atiim wrote:bigolenuts wrote:
You've done nothing Kane. You are not the hero of anything here. Move along. You have some roles you should be removing from your players so this can get over with.
And you are the hero?
They are the pawns being moved in position to help bring about a better Dust. To bring needed change to PC 1.0. They thought 100% was about opening more space but it was about showing how ineffective clones packs are and how passive ISK is a blight upon this game.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 15:31:00 -
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No need. Bigolenuts has already said his stake in this game dies with Dust like much of AE. When the real dust settles we will continue on for years and years into the future while the mob goes of to be scum lords in the next FPS experience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAJG8tF5MQM
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Posted - 2014.05.12 15:36:00 -
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Big, some people are able to see the truth and others just give in to what others say. AE has lied and lied. They tried to pass off exploiting in a tournament and then try to pass off doing everything they can to hurt the community.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 15:49:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:Kain Spero wrote:Big, some people are able to see the truth and others just give in to what others say. AE has lied and lied. They tried to pass off exploiting in a tournament and then try to pass off doing everything they can to hurt the community. Regardless of the past, can't say I was involved with any of it or right in the middle. We are trying to get these districts so we can give them away. We thought you made it easy for us by saying you guys were done. We are going to keep on until we get them Kane if you believe it or not. We all have made a commitment to root you out. Now, if you really want to burn AE. Quit showing up, lets us flip the districts that remain and see what happens. If we were to go on our word you'll have the entire community on your side to take them back. That is not happening though. Our guys are ready to go. If you ever had any respect for them, fall to the side and let this take place. It is going to anyhow.
So AE will give up Kadlina to then? Not a single AE district will remain on the board? Because the words and whispers are that it will remain in AE's hands even after ERA is gone. Prove me wrong and work with Steeldark to prove your word. Prove there is something left of the Ancient Exiles I created with Kujo and not this farce of a mob that calls themselves the elite.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:08:00 -
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KILLER 20965 wrote:I will likely get banned for this but I don't give a **** anymore, dust is dead anyway. Kane, I ******* hate you, I wouldn't give two ***** if you died tomorrow.
Maybe not the best place for this but I don't know where else to put it.
B.T.W. I only speak for myself my words and actions do not represent anyone in any of my chats/corp/alliance all blame is to be sent to me and me alone
Good to see one of the mob and the true face of AE raise it's head. Luckily Steeldark seems to be keeping your rabble in check, but what about when he leaves as is his plan?
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:12:00 -
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KILLER 20965 wrote:Kain Spero wrote:KILLER 20965 wrote:I will likely get banned for this but I don't give a **** anymore, dust is dead anyway. Kane, I ******* hate you, I wouldn't give two ***** if you died tomorrow.
Maybe not the best place for this but I don't know where else to put it.
B.T.W. I only speak for myself my words and actions do not represent anyone in any of my chats/corp/alliance all blame is to be sent to me and me alone Good to see one of the mob and the true face of AE raise it's head. Luckily Steeldark seems to be keeping your rabble in check, but what about when he leaves as is his plan? Can't you ******* read dipshit? I said I ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF!!! ******* ****** B.T.W. I only speak for myself my words and actions do not represent anyone in any of my chats/corp/alliance all blame is to be sent to me and me alone
You speak for yourself but you represent the angry mob that seethes under the surface in AE that has force AE to do terrible things to themselves and the community. When Steeldark and Kujo are gone there will be nothing to keep it in check.
The same mob that cried VOTE VOTE VOTE so they could burn PFC to the ground against the suggestion of voices of reason.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:29:00 -
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KILLER 20965 wrote:So kane can you say anything nice? I believe that when we see that hell would long since frozen over so 'snowcones?'
Oh I can. The AE I built with Kujo went against the super powers and carved an empire out of nothing. It was the sword behind the F*** EON Colaition that I helped to lead against the donut of the time and actually led to the eventually dissolution of that donut. AE was forged from the war started after moving Internal Error to League of Infamy in opposition of the donut at the time as well. Much of the major wars have been to keep any one group from too much power. Working with FA and TSO against RA and then working with RA when AE was on the brink to keep the balance.
Even when Dust launched Imperfects crushed EON as they lost their war on two fronts with IMPs on one side and CRONOS on the other. When it was clear the EON would loose and CRONOS would own all Imperfects took Hrober as payment and attacked CRONOS and their allies and destroyed the first donut in the game that had formed. Look through Dust's history and you will see the hand acting against concentrations of power that would lead to stagnation.
Alas, nothing changed and a new paradigm had to be made. I saw a chance to unite everyone and took it even though I loath the donuts more then anything else. When you are used to crushing donuts you learn very well how to build them up. If I hadn't kicked AE from DNS the DNS donut would still remain. Blowing up one Donut to then let it form another proves how broken the system is. Even though groups like FA and AE loath each other passive ISK drives them to work together on the same side to ensure the purse of passive ISK is guarded.
The high end players in this game are machines guided only in their pursuit of the only real leader board this game has: the total ISK in your wallet.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 17:36:00 -
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KILLER 20965 wrote:I want the option to block this **** tard kane spero... anyone know how to do that without logging in to psn?  **************** **** ************ ***** *** *****
Why so angry? Is the truth to painful. Yes your corp is a bunch of evil b*^$#!$*s and now everyone can see it. The truth is they all realized it before. Unfortunately planetary conquest is a broken system in many ways and drives people to do what they can to survive.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:12:00 -
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iliel wrote:Wow, you read selectively. [ 2014.03.31 01:29:19 ] Fiddlestax Atruin > BURN PFCn++[ 2014.03.31 01:29:24 ] Fiddlestax Atruin > !
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:29:25 ] J0LLY R0G3R > ^n++[ 2014.03.31 01:29:28 ] MJ 420 > ^^^ n++[ 2014.03.31 01:29:32 ] DJINN Marauder > YEAAAAAA n++[ 2014.03.31 01:29:43 ] Fiddlestax Atruin > ready to launch nowFrom what you've posted, it seems to me at least that, while Roner started the burn-PFC movement, Fiddle escalated it to its reality. If you felt the need to rid AE because of their agression against PFC, shouldn't you also clean up ERA a bit?
Heh, I knew you would pick up that part which is why I didn't edit it out. Lets looks at what Fiddle said when I reminded him of how our value of contracts is the most important thing. Fiddle always hated PFC, and was always welcome to his opinion.
[ 2014.03.31 01:30:33 ] Fiddlestax Atruin > say the word kane!
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:30:40 ] tards-R-us > turtles r better
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:30:42 ] DJINN Kujo > ready to launch?
I then say NO that we aren't burning PFC in our voice meeting that was being broadcast to the channel.
[ 2014.03.31 01:31:00 ] Fiddlestax Atruin > awwwwwwwwwwww
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:31:07 ] DJINN Kujo > damn.......
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:31:10 ] IVANJAKANOV > i've done that before, made bookmarks inside a planet
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:31:21 ] DJINN Marauder > i got 400 clones ready
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:31:24 ] DJINN Kujo > take it all!!
[ 2014.03.31 01:31:28 ] DJINN Kujo > lol
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:31:29 ] Zacron Dubs > I really think if DNS controlled 100% of MH it would really capture CCPs attention
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:31:29 ] IVANJAKANOV > or like right next to the core of a star and then bounce off the core
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:31:35 ] Fiddlestax Atruin > DJINN Marauder 449/450 or nothing
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:31:37 ] Zacron Dubs > and it would be pretty awesome
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:31:49 ] DJINN Kujo > 450 or nothing
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:32:12 ] Kane Spero > The contract between PFC and ERA and NF still stands
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:32:12 ] eatsbabies cienfuegos > ^
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:32:17 ] Rannici > lol
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:32:24 ] Fiddlestax Atruin > give them notice
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:32:29 ] Fiddlestax Atruin > give them notice!
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:32:36 ] DJINN Kujo > Kane lets atleast wipe Bosena & give it back to NS
[ 2014.03.31 01:32:36 ] eatsbabies cienfuegos > lol
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:32:42 ] Kane Spero > No
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:32:46 ] DJINN Rampage > we can hit PFC?
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:32:51 ] Steven Moreno > ^puss
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:32:55 ] Kane Spero > With 150 clones, but no flipping
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:32:57 ] Fiddlestax Atruin > we cant hit pfc :(
[ 2014.03.31 01:33:04 ] DJINN Kujo > gay
[ 2014.03.31 01:34:46 ] DJINN Rampage > so kujo, if i hit a PFC district right now will i be yelled at?
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:34:47 ] Fiddlestax Atruin > we would have SO MANY TEARS
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:34:54 ] x0scarM1ke > TAKE IT
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:34:55 ] Rannici > what would be funnier would be if the 70% or so that we do control, all relinquish control of the planets at the same time and let all the scrub corporations have a massive land grab before fanfest...
[ 2014.03.31 01:35:49 ] Kane Spero > I'm plannign on us having another tournament using T-dome and PFC
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:36:02 ] DJINN Kujo > pfft
[ 2014.03.31 01:47:48 ] Fiddlestax Atruin > negative feedback corps have profited greatly from keeping contracts
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:47:50 ] Blizz the Lion > Lets not Blue up everything either
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:00 ] DJINN Rampage > that contract has ZERO to do with AE.
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:05 ] x0scarM1ke > pay me
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:10 ] Kane Spero > OUr contract is our word and it will NOT be broken.
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:13 ] Kane Spero > Period.
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:16 ] Shiyou Hidiyoshi > ^
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:17 ] x0scarM1ke > so pay us kane
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:24 ] Kane Spero > Fight in a PFC match.
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:26 ] Fiddlestax Atruin > we dont get pfc funds, the mercs do
n++[ 2014.03.31 01:48:29 ] DJINN Rampage > your word. not ours.
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bigolenuts wrote:means nothing to me.....Fiddle wanted it burned as well....
Yep he did initially and was then reminded of the importance of keeping our contracts plus he had no authority to do so. That's why NF isn't ruled by a mob like AE.
In the end it was AE that launched the attacks before waiting for a meeting that would have likely preserved PFC. Rampage couldn't contain himself and Kujo was too weak of leader to stop it.
In the end the truth is revealed and AE's lies to themselves and their fellow corps are laid bare. If passive ISK is removed I will laugh as you gnash your teeth in anger as Dust PC 1.0 is finally improved. Enjoy your new found "friends" while it lasts. I've said all that is needed.
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