DUST Search - [Idea] Orbital Support

Maken Tosch wrote:

I would recommend something in the order of priority listed below. But instead of having this set per squad, it would be for the entire team and the team must be encouraged to communicate effectively.

1,000 WP - Deploys a squad of 6 small drones meant to hack as many objectives as possible starting with the ones closes to the friendly side. These drones will defend themselves if needed. If no objectives are available to hack, installations will be next. If nothing is left to hack, small drones will go into aggressive mode and attack any enemies nearby until something hackable is on the field. Unattended vehicles do not count as hackable for the drones so that the enemy won't exploit this in an attempt to keep the drones from entering aggressive mode.

2,000 WP - Deploys a squad of 3 heavy drones. These are mostly AV-focused drones but carry with them a set of anti-infantry weapons only for self defense. They're primary target is anything with wheels and treads followed by anything that can fly. These are the only drones in the field capable of ripping out the pilots from tanks and LAVs and then hacking them so that they become drones themselves.

2,500 WP - Traditional warbarge strike in pub matches. Eve ship strike in FW and Planetary Conquest. But only using small turrets.

5,000 WP - Torpedo Strike, Large Laser Strike, Large Artillery Strike, or Large Blaster Strike. Options available on pub matches. In FW and PC, the type used is dependent on what the Eve pilot has fitted. Clears out at least 1/4 of the map.

10,000 WP - Dreadnaught Strike. The entire map is blasted away.

Might need to adjust how long the matches last in order to compensate.


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843 Epidemic BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1151	Posted - 2014.05.11 18:54:00 - [1] - Quote My usual disclaimer: I know not whether this has been discussed already, if so, link me!! One of the least QQ'd about things is OBs. I do believe however that with only one strike to choose from (Don't give me that tactical, lazer, hybrid BS, it's all the same) we could really do with some expansion in legion. Assuming the OBs still work in the same way for Pub matches/PC as far as warpoints go, these are a few ideas I had. I would also like to point out that if, say, 2500 WP was achieved then only one strike could be selected rather than multiple. Also, if 2500 WP was achieved and a strike used this would reset the WP clock. This means if one was to want to use a 5000 WP strike their squad would have to reach 5000WP without using any other strikes in the process. They could alternatively use two 2500 WP strikes when they reach this. I'm sure everyone get's the gist; WP acts like an in-battle currency. 2500 WP: Warbarge strike: (The strike we are all very familiar with, multiple blasts over a medium range area) 2500 WP: Precision Laser: This would act as a strike that could cut through non-organic matter. It wouldn't destroy or damage non-organic matter (Because let's face it, destructible environments are never happening) however it would simply bypass it, destroying any and all organic matter. This could work for men camping in buildings, tank drivers, pilots, you name it. Downside would be the size of the beam. Incredibly tight, big enough to cover 1 tank perhaps. However the time between call and strike would be much faster than a warbarge strike. 3500 WP: Drone strike. I of course do not know much of the drone system as I'm sure is expected, but perhaps with a certain skill trained up one could be enabled to call in a drone? It may drop like an RDV drops a vehicle, or it could be dropped like an installation falls. Either way, I'd say this would be a medium or small drone, which could act either independently or stick close to the player in radius. Depending on how you want to do things it could have all different kinds of functions. Maybe combat? Mobile CRU? Floating shield? Ammo supply? The potential for drone drops is large, but I think considering it as an OB support type isn't a bad idea. Adds a whole new element to the game. Perhaps to prevent spam only one per squad could be deployed, with a cap of 4 drones per team. 5000 WP: Nuke. I'm sure a better name could be thought of for this, but the general idea would be that a strike capable of heavily damaging a wide area could be deployed. The aftermath of this strike would be radiation, so that any player (friend or foe) would be damaged whilst in this area. The radiation would disappear after 2 minutes let's say. There is a risk of course of calling this in as a camping method, so I'd suggest it couldn't be called in at a redline. This is a bit of an iffy idea, but I thought it might add in a new dynamic for gameplay encouraging strategy for taking a point. More hit and run tactics, using vehicles to get to a point then speedily dealing with the letter etc. 5000 WP: Tracker strike. This would cover a massive area (E.g. a cityscape) and once called, targeting beams would fall down onto the location onto all enemies in the vacinity. They would track for about 3 seconds before firing so the enemy has a chance to get to cover, but they will instakill anything. This strike would not target vehicles. I was thinking this targeting strike would be able to detect anyone at all, though I guess super-dampened scouts may be able to get away with it. It would not be able to penetrate ceilings however and there would be no blast radius to the strike, meaning that no equipment could be destroyed. Please if you have any constructive criticism/feedback or new ideas for OB support types please let it be known here! Brb, sister needs the TV
843 Epidemic BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1154	Posted - 2014.05.11 19:31:00 - [2] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I would recommend something in the order of priority listed below. But instead of having this set per squad, it would be for the entire team and the team must be encouraged to communicate effectively. 1,000 WP - Deploys a squad of 6 small drones meant to hack as many objectives as possible starting with the ones closes to the friendly side. These drones will defend themselves if needed. If no objectives are available to hack, installations will be next. If nothing is left to hack, small drones will go into aggressive mode and attack any enemies nearby until something hackable is on the field. Unattended vehicles do not count as hackable for the drones so that the enemy won't exploit this in an attempt to keep the drones from entering aggressive mode. 2,000 WP - Deploys a squad of 3 heavy drones. These are mostly AV-focused drones but carry with them a set of anti-infantry weapons only for self defense. They're primary target is anything with wheels and treads followed by anything that can fly. These are the only drones in the field capable of ripping out the pilots from tanks and LAVs and then hacking them so that they become drones themselves. 2,500 WP - Traditional warbarge strike in pub matches. Eve ship strike in FW and Planetary Conquest. But only using small turrets. 5,000 WP - Torpedo Strike, Large Laser Strike, Large Artillery Strike, or Large Blaster Strike. Options available on pub matches. In FW and PC, the type used is dependent on what the Eve pilot has fitted. Clears out at least 1/4 of the map. 10,000 WP - Dreadnaught Strike. The entire map is blasted away. Might need to adjust how long the matches last in order to compensate. Me and one other dude got 14,000 WP combined once so I think match length won't be a problem hheheeh. Good ideas though. A little more complex but hey, we're looking at legion now. Maybe it's all possible. Brb, sister needs the TV
843 Epidemic BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1155	Posted - 2014.05.11 20:13:00 - [3] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: 137H4RGIC wrote: While I totally support the notion of a Torpedo Strike, there is no way that a torpedo would have enough fuel to make it to the surface. True, that perhaps we could implement some sort of Orbital Bombardment Missile... But as it stands the longest range Torpedo (which has a blast radius of 450m, which is a large portion of the map) is the Javelin Torpedo as made by example in the EVElopedia here: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Mjolnir_Javelin_Torpedo You can also search the other types of torpedoes as well. Cruise Missiles won't do any better unless you're in low orbit. Or maybe there needs to be a ballistics module that increases missile flight time and velocity (by exponential amounts) but specializes in damage against infantry, but practically 0 damage to other enemy ships. I kinda would like to see a Rage Torpedo hit the surface - provided it could suffer the burn in from the atmosphere. Since when does any missile need fuel to fall straight down? The null cannon missiles apparently :P Brb, sister needs the TV
843 Epidemic BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1155	Posted - 2014.05.11 20:25:00 - [4] - Quote Ayures II wrote: The current OB system is great, IMO, and doesn't need to be "fixed." Way too risky. Not a fix, it's an improvement. There's nothing inherently wrong with the system now it could just do with expansion. Brb, sister needs the TV
843 Epidemic BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1157	Posted - 2014.05.11 21:31:00 - [5] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: 843 Epidemic wrote: There's nothing inherently wrong with the system now it could just do with expansion. I disagree. Presently, the main function that the orbital system provides is a way to exacerbate pubstomping. Perhaps you're right, but that doesn't mean the idea of more strike types is a bad thing. Maybe there needs to be a revision of the way one can earn a strike? Let's not dismiss the idea and instead work on it Brb, sister needs the TV
843 Epidemic BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1157	Posted - 2014.05.11 22:05:00 - [6] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Here's my OLD (I mean, so old that it got locked from inactivity old) post about this that seemed to get a good response from the community: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1098306#post1098306 Those are really awesome, I'm going to add them to the thread here Brb, sister needs the TV