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bigolenuts wrote:

Since you claim to be "informed". Where did you get the information to make this statement? "Literally anything that you buy with real money that is applicable to Legion, when it comes out, will be transferable." I've read that will "try" to move things over but that that they will. Feel free to link any comment from CCP that says it will without 100% of a doubt be moved to Legion.

A link from a 3rd party website is not sufficient. The information should come from these forums.

CCP Rouge wrote:

Hi everyone,

Thank you for all of your feedback so far. I'd like to answer a few of your questions about DUST 514 and Project Legion directly given the feedback you gave me. I've picked these four points as they are coming up the most on the forums as well as in the live roundtable discussions here at Fanfest.

1) What happens to my character, skills and stuff?

If Project Legion becomes something more than a prototype, we will not leave our DUST 514 players behind. You would be able to bring your character name, applicable skills/inventory, and other elements of progression with you. We are still working on the details and we will have more to announce soon.

2) Are you completely abandoning DUST dev?

No. Without promising too much, we are actively working on stuff like balancing, Planetary Conquest, matchmaking, the in-game economy, and more. And of course we continue to work with the CPM to identify ways to improve the game.

3) Is Project Legion going to have a PS4 version? Or something for consoles?

It is still far too early to discuss platform expansion, as like you saw we are still only working on the PC prototype at this time. But the PC architecture gives us the opportunity to grow once we have a great PC product at hand. For now, though, PlayStation 4 is not something we are working on.

4) When are you going to give us more concrete information on Legion?

Again, Project Legion is still in an early stage of development but the whole idea behind giving a sneak peek at Fanfest is to get early feedback - and I really want to keep this discussion going, show you progress through dev blogs and such and listen to what you have to say.

Please post your feedback and questions in this thread - and let's keep this conversation going. The team and I will be reading this thread, and I will respond as soon as I can.

CCP Rouge

LOGI EDIT: Please make sure to read through all the dev posts in this thread before responding, a whole lot more questions have been answered.


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Zeekoh F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 35	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:15:00 - [1] - Quote You people are so damn stupid. If CCP didn't want people to know, then why would they reveal Legion in the first place? You idiots are acting like DUST has been abandoned and it's not going to be supported by CCP for at least a few more years. DUST even has updates coming out later this year and a few improvements as well. At this stage Legion may not even become it's own game! Although it's unlikely that it won't. Not to mention the PS3 isn't a permanent platform and Sony will take the PS3 servers down and use them for something else as soon as it starts costing them more money than it makes them. Here's something all of you obviously don't understand... CCP doesn't need to employ underhanded tactics to get your money. They aren't hard pressed to steal your cash. They don't need it. The simple fact is that EVE has over 500,000 active monthly subscribers and the money they make from DUST is pocket change. http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/3/5678596/Project-Legion-Dust-514-CCP Literally anything that you buy with real money that is applicable to Legion, when it comes out, will be transferable. You aren't losing anything. It's nobodies fault but your own if you don't know how to properly invest your money and read ToS policies. While you are all telling people not to buy things because it's a waste, and not to play this game anymore, take into consideration that you're a moron and don't know what you're talking about. You're just spreading the hysteria and it's god damn ridiculous how all of you are acting.
Zeekoh F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 37	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:54:00 - [2] - Quote True enough. But any legitimate fan of CCP/DUST/EVE has already heard about Project Legion. It's a huge topic right now and not just in the DUST community. In all honesty, why should they veer potential customers away if they're still supporting the game for years to come? Check this out. People were SO ready and willing to spend money on AURUM before the Legion announcement. What did they spend their AURUM on exactly? Weapons? Dropsuits? Equipment? Vehicles? Any of the other number of items on the market which get used up and wasted every single time you die? All of that stuff, for lack of a better analogy, evaporates into thin air. With some luck, maybe someone on the other team will get some AUR weapons/equipment as loot. Their money just disappeared with absolutely nothing to show for it, aside from MAYBE a higher K/D ratio and slightly higher SP gained at the end of a match. Probably the only real sensible thing to spend your AURUM on is SP boosters. So, knowing all of this, why nitpick at the fact that only "applicable" assets will be transferable? Your character's name, SP gained and such... all of what REALLY matters will be able to make the jump from DUST to Legion. The fact that some items MAY not make the leap to Legion means nothing. Everyone will be using all of those items in DUST as they play in the years to come. CCP will undoubtedly change what's on the DUST market, well before Legion is released, to reflect Legion's weapon sets so that most, if not everything, will be transferable. Knowing CCP, they will give you a Legion variant of any AUR weapon/equipment you may have from DUST.
Zeekoh F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 37	Posted - 2014.05.08 13:04:00 - [3] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Hey CCP mascot lapdog. Suck on the sig. I'm not a mascot or a lapdog for CCP. I just know what's happening because I chose to get informed on the matter rather than be a f****** dumbass about it like you.
Zeekoh F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 38	Posted - 2014.05.08 13:22:00 - [4] - Quote Nstomper wrote: You act like those updates are going to something serious dude we are only getting bug fixes and other ** yes nothing more. Anyway you can take that legion filth over to the legion section of the forum . Okay... have you followed DUST since the beginning? Do you know that this game isn't even half of what they were aspiring to when they began? What they were striving for is practically impossible on the PS3. Let me mention this too. I only have access to a low-end laptop which won't even be capable of playing Legion when it comes out due to it's Intel graphic's chip. If I want to continue playing after Legion comes out I'll have to buy an entirely new computer. Wonder why I'm not jumping on the band wagon with the rest of you and acting like this is the end of DUST. If you ever gave a s* about DUST and what it was MEANT TO BE from the very beginning, then you would agree with the release of Legion.
Zeekoh F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 38	Posted - 2014.05.08 13:40:00 - [5] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: It happens when you to jump to defense of devs. loyalty to a game can be understood even if it's not agreed upon. one to the developers is sketchy, and depends on their track record. CCP has a lot of skid marks dude. I understand that. And to the contrary, aside from our experience with CCP in DUST, they've done quite a bit for the fans, too. It's not like they continually screw fans over like more than a few people seem to think. CCP is literally one of the only companies who truly tries to do right by it's fans. These people praising Sony for giving refunds are fools. Sony does not give a s* about it's PS3 users. We're just a money pot to them. All that aside, I'm loyal to the idea of what DUST was originally intended to be. This DUST that we have clearly isn't it. Legion seems like a HUGE step in the right direction, so naturally I'm all for it, even if I can't play it on my POS laptop. This may be what encourages me to buy a PC and actually be able to play newer PC games. Gaurdian Satyr wrote: If they fix their *** code this game can be legion just not as pretty....its like placing stuff to not take up space.....You can organize that and have code the takes less data or you can have CCP This game is definitely not capable of being Legion. It's not a matter of fixing their code. It's a matter of the game and the system just not being capable of being what you're saying it's possible to be. You obviously have no clue what you're talking about. Legion isn't just DUST with shinier graphics. noob cavman wrote:** What we are trying to say is that many may not be informed of dust becoming a new game on a entirely different platform. With out that information they can not make a informed choice of purchasing boosters, aur or gear. If the wish to after beingeinformed then that is their choice but they will have all the INFORMATION to to make it. I understand what you are saying. You, however don't see what I am saying. DUST is still fully operational and will be for years to come. You can go and spend money on useable equipment/weapons/vehicles/etc., and if you actually use it to play the game, you will not have ANY of that left if/when Legion gets released YEARS from now. Why would CCP scare away customers like that when, as I clearly stated in a previous post, they WILL be supporting it for at least a few more years? It's not like a person buying AUR assets today will have the same AUR assets when Legion comes out, again, YEARS from now. I could understand after Legion actually gets the green light and gets closer to beta or something. But now? That's just ridiculous. You may as well say that they should have discouraged people from buying AURUM, before the Legion announcement, simply because most of the things you can buy with it just disappear upon death. People had no problem wasting their money frivolously before the Legion announcement and having nothing to show for it except higher K/D stats. What's so different now that they've announced Legion? Practically nothing as things stand right now. Legion isn't DUST. So why have announcements in the news update about a game that has nothing to do with DUST yet? Why not put EVE updates in it too? For that matter, why not put up an announcement in-game that the World of Darkness MMO has been canceled as well?
Zeekoh F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 38	Posted - 2014.05.08 14:54:00 - [6] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Only if it was guaranteed a release on PS4. Otherwise Legion is a slap in the face to both Sony and its customers. As much as I love my Playstations and all the little benefits Sony provides over Microsoft, Sony habitually slaps it's own customers in the face. I've always thought it was a mistake releasing DUST on the PS3. As I've stated, the PS3 is not a permanent platform and neither will the PS4 be a permanent platform. By the time a PS5, or whatever it will be, comes out, PS3's servers will most likely be offline or used for the PS4. DUST should have been created for the PC in the first place, but seeing how it turned out, I'm glad that it wasn't. Either way, if you all insist on having DUST or Legion on consoles, this argument will inevitably come up again and again as this type of game is doomed to failure on consoles. All due to the fact that they are NOT a permanent platform like PC's. That means that each console will inevitably die off and close it's servers. Cutting off all possible new players joining the game and maybe even your ability to connect to CCP's servers to play the game in the first place. This IS what would happen. 10-20 years from now we will STILL be using PC's. Albeit with newer parts and operating systems. However, 10-20 years from now, where's the PS3 gonna be? Where's the PS4 gonna be in 10 years? I'd wager nearing the end of it's era. You don't honestly expect CCP to completely remake the game every time a console is released do you? Potentially losing it's a vast majority of it's player base in the process? That's absolutely absurd....
Zeekoh F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 38	Posted - 2014.05.08 15:09:00 - [7] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Since you claim to be "informed". Where did you get the information to make this statement? "Literally anything that you buy with real money that is applicable to Legion, when it comes out, will be transferable." I've read that will "try" to move things over but that that they will. Feel free to link any comment from CCP that says it will without 100% of a doubt be moved to Legion. A link from a 3rd party website is not sufficient. The information should come from these forums. Aside from the fact that countless articles have been written stating the same thing from tons of credible gaming sites? Here you go: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=160232&find=unread CCP Rouge wrote: Hi everyone, Thank you for all of your feedback so far. I'd like to answer a few of your questions about DUST 514 and Project Legion directly given the feedback you gave me. I've picked these four points as they are coming up the most on the forums as well as in the live roundtable discussions here at Fanfest. 1) What happens to my character, skills and stuff? If Project Legion becomes something more than a prototype, we will not leave our DUST 514 players behind. You would be able to bring your character name, applicable skills/inventory, and other elements of progression with you. We are still working on the details and we will have more to announce soon. 2) Are you completely abandoning DUST dev? No. Without promising too much, we are actively working on stuff like balancing, Planetary Conquest, matchmaking, the in-game economy, and more. And of course we continue to work with the CPM to identify ways to improve the game. 3) Is Project Legion going to have a PS4 version? Or something for consoles? It is still far too early to discuss platform expansion, as like you saw we are still only working on the PC prototype at this time. But the PC architecture gives us the opportunity to grow once we have a great PC product at hand. For now, though, PlayStation 4 is not something we are working on. 4) When are you going to give us more concrete information on Legion? Again, Project Legion is still in an early stage of development but the whole idea behind giving a sneak peek at Fanfest is to get early feedback - and I really want to keep this discussion going, show you progress through dev blogs and such and listen to what you have to say. Please post your feedback and questions in this thread - and let's keep this conversation going. The team and I will be reading this thread, and I will respond as soon as I can. CCP Rouge LOGI EDIT: Please make sure to read through all the dev posts in this thread before responding, a whole lot more questions have been answered.
Zeekoh F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 40	Posted - 2014.05.08 15:15:00 - [8] - Quote ISuperstar wrote: Hey Man! Go f#ck yourself! Here's a perfect example of the type of stupidity I keep referring to.