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DUST Fiend
The Wings of Legion
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Posted - 2014.05.08 02:48:00 -
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I just wanted to highlight this post from CCP Rouge, since it's kind of buried in the thread that it's in, and I feel like it's good info. So, just in case anyone missed it
CCP Rouge wrote:Hi everyone. Me again.
Why PC first? For a few different reasons... It's a scalable platform. We can go high spec for the most demanding players in terms of Gfx, but we can also scale down to low/mid spec to get critical mass. It's also a good platform for the early stage of a project like ours. You can test and balance the game and the economy quite easily with fast turn-arounds. We can set people up in testing environments easily (eg. ISD in EVE). If you've seen the "CCP Presents" presentation on Saturday at Fanfest, there was a talk about CCP refocusing on its core tech competency, which is PC. It allows in the future the creation of a "universe" of products on the same platform. Again, this doesn't mean that we're not going back to console at one point but we need to focus on one thing at a time and deliver an awesome game, then things get easier.
Now I'd like to address (or repeat) something important for me. I know that a lot of you have been really disappointed and wanted to see much more on the future of DUST 514 in its current form and I absolutely understand that feeling. But the reality is that, while it's a great shooter, I repeat that it's not the base that can give us another EVE Online with 10+ years of epic battles where players can have a great experience whether solo, as the head of the deadliest squad or largest corp in the game. Give people the right tools to manage/achieve all that. A much clearer user experience that opens up that huge universe, always discover new stuff to shoot, to loot, to sell... A social experience where corps can advertise/recruit easily, where you see the main chat going crazy with people asking for groups, selling stuff, talking ****. Some of the stuff that makes me feel like I am in an MMO. All of these aren't tweaks, they are features forming a new eco-system for the game, a foundation you can then build on. No doubt that DUST 514 is a large piece of that foundation. We've accomplished so much and I've had a ton of fun every day since beta but it is not there yet. It requires a lot of work of course but also a different approach in how we design and execute on that vision. I can go on and on about how I see this evolve but we'll cover in more depth as we start sharing ideas and designs through dev blogs and such.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
8089
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Posted - 2014.05.08 02:52:00 -
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Also from CCP Rouge:
CCP Rouge wrote:I want to address the concerns about character migration from DUST 514 to Project Legion if it goes ahead. There has been some concern about what I meant by GÇ£applicableGÇ¥. We are looking to migrate everything we can about characters from DUST 514, including names, corporation membership, skill points, assets and ISK. We have not yet decided how this would translate to the new items and progression system in Legion, but we want to make sure that the time and effort you committed in DUST 514 is carried over to Project Legion.
CCP Rouge (Crowd Control Productions - 'Neo' EVE: Legion) DUST 514
CCP Logibro (Crowd Control Productions) .GIF Sigs.
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DUST Fiend
The Wings of Legion
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Posted - 2014.05.08 04:29:00 -
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Ah forgot that, definitely good to highlight as well. I just figure more people need to see this, just in case they haven't been following the stickied thread
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Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.05.08 04:31:00 -
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ty
Chillin, waitin on Legion.
Ishukone loyalist, Caldari Scout enthusiast!
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Proto Annihilator
16 Vandals
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Posted - 2014.05.08 04:41:00 -
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I really couldn't care one iota less about anything CCP says. They have nothing that interests me. |
Virtual Riot
Rebels New Republic INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.05.08 04:44:00 -
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good post he is right, I just hope Legion ends up better than dust did
Fixing FGs > all
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DUST Fiend
The Wings of Legion
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Posted - 2014.05.08 05:46:00 -
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Updated OP with CCP Androids excellent post on UE3
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2014.05.08 05:59:00 -
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TIL nobody uses the 'dev posts' button.
I know the key to Logibro's heart
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THE 2000 SWINE
Commando Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.08 06:56:00 -
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lol
blah, blah, blah
gfx
blah, blah, blah
pretty, oh look eye candy
blah, blah, blah
loot, stuff, hoarding stuff and loot...
blah,blah,bla
MMO?
blah,blah, blah
same broken dusting turd netcode mechanics. don't worry it's a percentage shooter....lol |
Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2014.05.08 07:44:00 -
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Inb4 & after console kids tell you how much CCP screwed them and that it's all lies
'#PCMasterRace
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THE 2000 SWINE
Commando Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.08 08:20:00 -
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Vin Vicious wrote:Inb4 & after console kids tell you how much CCP screwed them and that it's all lies
blah, blah, blah,
i'm a loot noob
blah, blah, blah
go choke on a hot pocket, i'm a pc chicken choker
blah, blah, blah
more loot |
R F Gyro
Clones 4u
1380
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Posted - 2014.05.08 08:24:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:I really couldn't care one iota less about anything CCP says. They have nothing that interests me. Apart from a convenient forum to whine in?
RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
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THE 2000 SWINE
Commando Perkone Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2014.05.08 09:21:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:I really couldn't care one iota less about anything CCP says. They have nothing that interests me. Apart from a convenient forum to whine in?
did you hear about the LOOT!!
YAY LOOT!
boxes to break filled with wonderful wonderful loot
YAY LOOT LOOT! LOOT LOOT! LOOT LOOT!
YAY |
DUST Fiend
The Wings of Legion
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:23:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:TIL nobody uses the 'dev posts' button. I pretty much ALWAYS forget about that button lol. I always use the little blue tag button to skip ahead to dev posts, but I never remember that there is a button JUST for dev posts lol.
@_@
I figure if I've been here for two years and still forget, plenty of others must miss it too lol. This is good info and it deserves as much exposure as possible.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:25:00 -
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I grant this service approval
Also dev posts button gets broke easily when logibro spams like I do.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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DUST Fiend
The Wings of Legion
14210
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:27:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I grant this service approval
Also dev posts button gets broke easily when logibro spams like I do. You better start posting more or I'm going to pass you in likes Mr Wolf
Please keep pressure on CCP for releasing more info like this, particularly the technical bits like what CCP Android divulged above. Also, whenever they get a definitive Green or Red light for Legion, try your best to not let them beat around the bush. We NEED to know that, as soon as possible.
But yea, tie them down with duct tape and throw chipmunks at them if they even entertain the idea of giving Legion the Red Light
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:33:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Ah forgot that, definitely good to highlight as well. I just figure more people need to see this, just in case they haven't been following the stickied thread
CCP said bla bla bla
TRANSLATION: We ran out of PS3 "customers" to offer our "game items" to.
F U C K Legion.
Planetside 2 , Destiny, Watchdogs, Division, Witcher, Order on PS4
Dust Deserters Alliance
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:35:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:I really couldn't care one iota less about anything CCP says. They have nothing that interests me.
Then a thread on clarification from CCP probably wasn't something you needed to wonder into and comment on then was it?
OT, good idea posting this.
Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10
Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome
Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
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DUST Fiend
The Wings of Legion
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:42:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Ah forgot that, definitely good to highlight as well. I just figure more people need to see this, just in case they haven't been following the stickied thread CCP said bla bla bla TRANSLATION: We ran out of PS3 "customers" to offer our "game items" to. Actually they want this game to actually persist in the EVE universe, and offer up what they originally envisioned it to be. They're just being realistic and admitting that what they want to accomplish, cannot be accomplished on a dead console.
If they have to trim some low hanging fruit to accomplish that, then so be it.
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VonSpliff
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
152
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:55:00 -
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Ty for the repost, would of never found it. I don't understand the hate, we all knew that this was a beta game at the beginning. Just cuase they took the tag down didn't change the fact. I personal am happy with my experience in dust and look forward to the new things to come. Maybe we ll see all the things we talk about in game. I also like the part were Android said they are not giving up on console. Legion needs to be on ps4 at some point maybe not launch but not far after it. If that happens watch all the haters flock back. CCP does need to keep us in the loop every step of the way. If they build a tree I want to know the bark patteren ASAP. Please guys don't drop the ball on this.
"It never got weird enough for me." Dr. T
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:58:00 -
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Great collection of relevant articles, thanks DUST Fiend.
One thing I'd like to add, as a quasi translation to one of the original dev posts..
I think their overall views could be rephrased as follows
"[We had high hopes for DUST on PS3. but it never gathered the huge crowds we were looking for. So, as a large playerbase puller, it must be branded a failed product. We still want to get the (massive, on-the-ground) integration with EVE into a game. However, to have a chance at doing that, we need to launch a 'new' product, to get public eyeballs and attention.
In both our best marketing research background, and also in what we have the best tech skills available to us currently, that means we need to do that product on the PC platform.
We'd really like if if all you current DUSTies come join us for our new, and we hope even more exciting product, so we'll do our best to make it as painless for you as possible, by doing account transfers.]"
Personally, I think that is a fairly reasonable attitude for them to take.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.08 17:11:00 -
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People need to listen to the new High Drag podcast.
It's hard for me to imagine the marketing people that ignored the CPM's repeated warnings keeping their jobs. If I were CCP Rouge I'd probably push for their removal. They made that dude look like a fool.
Level 3 Forum Warrior
PSN: wbrom42
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Hairy Butter
Fairy Fleet
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Posted - 2014.05.08 17:18:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote: It's hard for me to imagine the marketing people that ignored the CPM's repeated warnings keeping their jobs. If I were CCP Rouge I'd probably push for their removal. They made that dude look like a fool.
^This |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.08 17:20:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:TIL nobody uses the 'dev posts' button. I do, and yet I completely missed the post by CCP Android - and while I wonder how much easier CCPs job would have been if they had started with Unreal 4 instead of 3, it's still good to know that Legion won't be stuck on a totally outdated engine. |
Spike Slania
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2014.05.08 17:21:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Great collection of relevant articles, thanks DUST Fiend.
One thing I'd like to add, as a quasi translation to one of the original dev posts..
I think their overall views could be rephrased as follows
"[We had high hopes for DUST on PS3. but it never gathered the huge crowds we were looking for. So, as a large playerbase puller, it must be branded a failed product. We still want to get the (massive, on-the-ground) integration with EVE into a game. However, to have a chance at doing that, we need to launch a 'new' product, to get public eyeballs and attention.
In both our best marketing research background, and also in what we have the best tech skills available to us currently, that means we need to do that product on the PC platform.
We'd really like if if all you current DUSTies come join us for our new, and we hope even more exciting product, so we'll do our best to make it as painless for you as possible, by doing account transfers.]"
Personally, I think that is a fairly reasonable attitude for them to take.
They're just not going to get the major Dust community. If my computer can run it I will play Legion, if not I will just move on. Eventually I will have a ps4 but I'm in no rush.
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Serimos Haeraven
The Exemplars Top Men.
751
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Posted - 2014.05.08 17:22:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Also from CCP Rouge: CCP Rouge wrote:I want to address the concerns about character migration from DUST 514 to Project Legion if it goes ahead. There has been some concern about what I meant by GÇ£applicableGÇ¥. We are looking to migrate everything we can about characters from DUST 514, including names, corporation membership, skill points, assets and ISK. We have not yet decided how this would translate to the new items and progression system in Legion, but we want to make sure that the time and effort you committed in DUST 514 is carried over to Project Legion. Okay... now this is making me a bit more optimistic than before.
Tankers are being diagnosed with a new disease; Cancer of the Assault Dropship.
Many of them don't survive.
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meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
975
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Posted - 2014.05.08 17:35:00 -
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Virtual Riot wrote:good post he is right, I just hope Legion ends up better than dust did
And on PS4.
R.I.P. Dust514 02 May 2014
EVE United
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8438
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:21:00 -
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That's a lot of techno jargon to understand but so far I can see how complex it can be to get Dust to a decent graphical level. It also helps explain why some of us players were seeing anomalies while playing Dust such as checker boxes in the sky, giant phantom guns stretching across the map, and some suits looking like they got a weird color. This might also explain some of the performance issues or memory leaks we have experienced this whole time.
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
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