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Glass Zeraki
The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:21:00 -
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First off, this is a quote from me from another thread. I do have a valid question but I wanted somebody from CCP to read this first.
Quote:Personally, my problem with the announcement of Project Legion is that it crushed my hope of getting PvE, player market, bigger matches, etc. any time soon. Let me explain it:
CCP said they wanted to add those and other things to Dust 514 on PS3. They never said they wouldn't do it, and they never said they would move Dust to a new platform, so I and many others assumed that they would do it and that they were working on it.
That's what kept me playing Dust 514. Sure saving SP is awesome, but the game itself was sh!t. The reason I kept playing is because CCP had at one point talked about the aforementioned things like PvE and a player market being put in Dust. I assumed that they were working on it for Dust and that it would be coming to the PS3 in some form.
For months and months, I and many others I know grit our teeth and played Dust, always checking this forum for any new information, waiting on pins and needles for the announcement to be made. After all, they never said it wasn't going to happen on the PS3.
Then FanFest happened. The day before the Project Legion reveal, I couldn't help but be excited and hopeful that something I wanted would be announced...PvE, jets, player market, improved NPE, etc., even though I tried to keep my expectations low because well f*** it's CCP. As I excitedly read the dev blog about Project Legion, I was slowly crushed by every sentence.
I thought "D***...nothing we wanted is happening anytime soon." I always thought it was just around the corner. It was like a carrot on a string that kept me moving. I learned that those things weren't days, weeks, or even months away. They're years away. On a game that hasn't been officially green lit. On a platform that's more expensive than a console and also a platform I have basically no experience with. So I was wrong. I thought CCP would add those things they said they wanted in the game soon, but they won't. It's going to be a long time before that happens.
That said, I understand completely why they chose the PC and I also agree from a business perspective that it was the best decision in the long run.
My problem is this: CCP's unfulfilled promises. They haven't broken any promises, because they never said when or how things would get done. It's always SOON. I think we as a playerbase need to reject SOON. We need to demand more from CCP. We need to demand SOLID timeframes from them. We need to scare them like we did with our reaction to Project Legion. Whenever CCP announces something new they want to add to EVE or Valkyrie or Dust/Legion, we need to riot untill they give us a date on when it'll be implemented. If they won't, we need to start demanding refunds. No more of this SOON crap. CCP needs to understand that they can't just placate us with flashy videos and talking about 'what could be'.
They need to DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO IN A TIMELY MANNER.
I'm done.
Now that you've hopefully read that, I have a question. When transfering our SP and stuff over to Legion, would it be possible to rename our characters? I would really like that option in place upon Legion's release.
I've decided to support Project Legion. Don't let that go to your head CCP, the reveal was a train wreck.
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Platinum Raptor
ISK Monsters
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:27:00 -
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:30:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDEA_n_dvlc
this vid has very vague information, with no real answers.
eatsbabies cienfuegos
steward of the renegade alliance.
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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:49:00 -
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The rant of a man who doesn't know how game development works.
Now about your eventual question, maybe.
I doubt CCP will allow a simple rename (more on principle than anything technical) - but they may allow you to transfer the skills from one Dust / Legion character into an existing EVE or Valkyrie character, as being able to play all three games from a single character is something CCP is aiming to do. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2014.05.07 01:26:00 -
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Glass Zeraki wrote:they never said they would move Dust to a new platform Well that's simply not true.
They've been saying the game was going to eventually go next-gen in some form since at least as far back as closed beta when I showed up. And presumably for a long time before that as well. The plan was always for DUST to continue after moving away from the PS3.
The problem was that they were announcing CURRENT plans to STAY on PS3 while working on a PC game that will be replacing DUST.
They aren't moving DUST to a new platform. They're leaving it behind when they promised not to. They're moving to a new platform because they couldn't deliver everything they wanted on PS3, but they hadn't finished delivering everything they could (and should) have on PS3.
You're looking at the wrong "problem". They made a huge mistake, but what you're complaining about not knowing was something we had all been told very clearly. |
PLAYSTTION
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2014.05.07 01:47:00 -
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Glass Zeraki wrote:First off, this is a quote from me from another thread. I do have a valid question but I wanted somebody from CCP to read this first. Quote:Personally, my problem with the announcement of Project Legion is that it crushed my hope of getting PvE, player market, bigger matches, etc. any time soon. Let me explain it:
CCP said they wanted to add those and other things to Dust 514 on PS3. They never said they wouldn't do it, and they never said they would move Dust to a new platform, so I and many others assumed that they would do it and that they were working on it.
That's what kept me playing Dust 514. Sure saving SP is awesome, but the game itself was sh!t. The reason I kept playing is because CCP had at one point talked about the aforementioned things like PvE and a player market being put in Dust. I assumed that they were working on it for Dust and that it would be coming to the PS3 in some form.
For months and months, I and many others I know grit our teeth and played Dust, always checking this forum for any new information, waiting on pins and needles for the announcement to be made. After all, they never said it wasn't going to happen on the PS3.
Then FanFest happened. The day before the Project Legion reveal, I couldn't help but be excited and hopeful that something I wanted would be announced...PvE, jets, player market, improved NPE, etc., even though I tried to keep my expectations low because well f*** it's CCP. As I excitedly read the dev blog about Project Legion, I was slowly crushed by every sentence.
I thought "D***...nothing we wanted is happening anytime soon." I always thought it was just around the corner. It was like a carrot on a string that kept me moving. I learned that those things weren't days, weeks, or even months away. They're years away. On a game that hasn't been officially green lit. On a platform that's more expensive than a console and also a platform I have basically no experience with. So I was wrong. I thought CCP would add those things they said they wanted in the game soon, but they won't. It's going to be a long time before that happens.
That said, I understand completely why they chose the PC and I also agree from a business perspective that it was the best decision in the long run.
My problem is this: CCP's unfulfilled promises. They haven't broken any promises, because they never said when or how things would get done. It's always SOON. I think we as a playerbase need to reject SOON. We need to demand more from CCP. We need to demand SOLID timeframes from them. We need to scare them like we did with our reaction to Project Legion. Whenever CCP announces something new they want to add to EVE or Valkyrie or Dust/Legion, we need to riot untill they give us a date on when it'll be implemented. If they won't, we need to start demanding refunds. No more of this SOON crap. CCP needs to understand that they can't just placate us with flashy videos and talking about 'what could be'.
They need to DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO IN A TIMELY MANNER.
I'm done. Now that you've hopefully read that, I have a question. When transfering our SP and stuff over to Legion, would it be possible to rename our characters? I would really like that option in place upon Legion's release. I would like the ability to enter a first name, last name and then nick name. so mine would be something something then PLAYSTTION as my nick name so people could recognize me. and i messed up my name so a change would be nice
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Glass Zeraki
The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:11:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Glass Zeraki wrote:they never said they would move Dust to a new platform Well that's simply not true. They've been saying the game was going to eventually go next-gen in some form since at least as far back as closed beta when I showed up. And presumably for a long time before that as well. The plan was always for DUST to continue after moving away from the PS3. The problem was that they were announcing CURRENT plans to STAY on PS3 while working on a PC game that will be replacing DUST. They aren't moving DUST to a new platform. They're leaving it behind when they promised not to. They're moving to a new platform because they couldn't deliver everything they wanted on PS3, but they hadn't finished delivering everything they could (and should) have on PS3. You're looking at the wrong "problem". They made a huge mistake, but what you're complaining about not knowing was something we had all been told very clearly.
They must have not said it very loudly, because I didn't hear it.
I've decided to support Project Legion. Don't let that go to your head CCP, the reveal was a train wreck.
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