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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2014.05.06 20:34:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Dear enraged neckbeards,
I challenge you to produce conclusive evidence that CCP made ANY promise to the community that they did not keep. Let's start with the most obvious:
1. True or False: CCP promised that DUST 514 would continue to be developed on the PS3 indefinitely and would never transfer to another platform.
False. All their actions show that they intended to develop it into the future on PS3. Back when they decided to develop DUST on PS3 they undoubtedly saw an opportunity and thought they were making the best choice available to them. Then after Uprising revealed the glaring flaws in the game and how far their official release of the game was from their/our vision inspired by EVE, they started iterating almost monthly in an effort to to get the game to where it needed to be. No game in history has been iterated on so frequently and gone through as many changes and transformations as DUST has in one year.
So CCP made an unprecedented effort to improve DUST and, it would seem, finally came to a breaking point where they had to make a decision: a) accept the limitations of the PS3 and just make the best game possible within those limitations or b) remake the game on PC without those limitations so that it could finally become the game that they originally intended. They chose PC.
Now, first of all, anyone who appreciates how special and amazing EVE is knows CCP would be fools to settle for less than making the EVE of shooters. They couldn't settle, so they chose to move to PC. I wouldn't want them to settle, and anyone who would just doesn't get it. If you don't get it, learn about EVE and you'll start to see how important it is that DUST move to PC so that it can become a true MMOFPS integrated with EVE....or just move on to another game on console.
Secondly, they made this decision based on real technical game development problems which they have professional knowledge of and you forum trolls have next to no understanding of. Devs say, "Well we really need to move to PC so that we can finally start to do x, y, and z with the game and finally move beyond limitations a, b, and c." Forum trolls, not understanding the techno talk and just being plain mad, say "NO! You lied! You BETRAYED us! The 514 stands for May 2014! You planned this all along, using us as guinea pigs so that you could troubleshoot for the real game you intended all the time! I'm biomassing my clone and protesting naked!"
To think that they planned this all along or were trying to milk people of money with recent events before they revealed the truth is outlandish and paranoid. Flaming trolls along these lines are just embarassing, and most of the arguments and vitriol being spewed out on these forums by the raging disappointed are ridiculous and just make the community look like a bunch of immature, self-centered neckbeards with underdeveloped social skills. Produce a shred of evidence. They have clearly said, in effect, "Yes, unless the zombie apocalypse or some crazy lawsuit from Sony keeps us from being able to do it, we will absolutely ensure that you to keep all of your SP and inventory in the PC version."
Show some class and self-respect. A PS3 FPS forum is the only place on earth that you won't be b*tchslapped for talking all your crazy sh*t and throwing such rash accusations around, and just generally being obnoxious in response to these changes. Be grateful that CCP is doing what they HAVE TO DO in order to push DUST 514 past the realm of mediocrity that it has been mired in and attempting, at their own expense, to make it a truly great and unique game that will live up to the standard set by EVE. If you don't care about DUST meeting and exceeding that standard....bye.
TL;DR: Your'e wrong.
Read the 4th post down and notice the date. If this is not a blatant lie, I don't know what one is.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2053787#post2053787
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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2014.05.06 20:36:00 -
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Pretty sure CCP made it clear they are 2 different games and that only a small portion of Dust would be integrated over to Legion. Not sure why you are attempting to protect CCP but facts are facts. No amount of **** swallowing can change them or a twist on words.
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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2014.05.06 20:57:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:bigolenuts wrote:Pretty sure CCP made it clear they are 2 different games and that only a small portion of Dust would be integrated over to Legion. Not sure why you are attempting to protect CCP but facts are facts. No amount of **** swallowing can change them or a twist on words. Hmm lets see.... Legion will have pub matches, faction warfare, and PC. It will have all the same classes and weapons. It will have a skill tree and a fitting window. It will the have the same kind of maps and game modes. It will have corporations. It will have ISK. It will take place in the EVE universe. Assets will be lost upon death. What else is there? Nothing. I just listed every bit of content there is in DUST 514. And they all happen to be in both games. But one of them is on PC. Is that the difference you're referring to?
The difference is, you are a CCP fanboy attempt to position yourself for something, I have no clue what. CCP has even STATED that it is NOT THE SAME GAME. So your word over rides theirs? LOL
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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2014.05.06 21:05:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:bigolenuts wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:bigolenuts wrote:Pretty sure CCP made it clear they are 2 different games and that only a small portion of Dust would be integrated over to Legion. Not sure why you are attempting to protect CCP but facts are facts. No amount of **** swallowing can change them or a twist on words. Hmm lets see.... Legion will have pub matches, faction warfare, and PC. It will have all the same classes and weapons. It will have a skill tree and a fitting window. It will the have the same kind of maps and game modes. It will have corporations. It will have ISK. It will take place in the EVE universe. Assets will be lost upon death. What else is there? Nothing. I just listed every bit of content there is in DUST 514. And they all happen to be in both games. But one of them is on PC. Is that the difference you're referring to? The difference is, you are a CCP fanboy attempt to position yourself for something, I have no clue what. CCP has even STATED that it is NOT THE SAME GAME. So your word over rides theirs? LOL Bet you a dollar hes trying to brown nose to be put on Legions version of the CSM/CPM I mean hey IRC brown nosing worked for Dusts council right
agreed
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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2014.05.07 01:36:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:KING SALASI wrote:So Saberwing straight up lied right there in print awesome. CCP what a disaster what happened to this company. It pains me to even respond to such baseless accusations but it must be done. So he said that they are committed to DUST over the long term. You focus on the fact that "Legion" and "DUST" are not the same words and that one is on PC and the other on PS3 and try to incite hatred based on that. What was he supposed to say? "We are committed to EVE, Valkyrie, and...whatever we'll be calling the EVE universe MMOFPS when we decided what platform it needs to be on." When he said DUST, he meant DUST and Legion, because Legion is clearly DUST 2 on the PC. This should be obvious. It's obvious to me. You don't see the connection though and so it's a LIE and a BETRAYAL. Or maybe you're capable of perceiving the obvious and you do see the connection but you're just trying to use anything you can as a weapon against CCP because you're pissed because eventually you'll have to have a PC to play DUST. I've never seen such petty, nit-picking, grudge-holding attempts at twisting the truth as on these forums in the past few days!!!
It seems you are the one who is having trouble distinguishing the difference in the two. Even when CCP( you know, the people developing both games) say they are not the same. Basically it boils down to you are a pointless troll or an idiot. I shall let you declare which on you are.
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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2014.05.07 06:46:00 -
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Dr Dammit wrote:Mojo XXXIII wrote:Instead of mocking us, maybe you PC guys should be THANKING us.
After all, if it weren't for our support and feedback over the past two years, there probably wouldn't even be an Eve: Legion coming to the PC for you guys to play at all. Or maybe you should thank the Eve PC players for funding Dust in the first place (You know, CCP's paying customers). It wouldn't exist at all without us. You're welcome.
Again, if a person bought Aurum to purchase in-game items they are paying customers. Free game or not, the Aurum was not free. You can remove yourself from the pedestal now.
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