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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:56:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Dear enraged neckbeards,
I challenge you to produce conclusive evidence that CCP made ANY promise to the community that they did not keep. Let's start with the most obvious:
1. True or False: CCP promised that DUST 514 would continue to be developed on the PS3 indefinitely and would never transfer to another platform.
False. All their actions show that they intended to develop it into the future on PS3. Back when they decided to develop DUST on PS3 they undoubtedly saw an opportunity and thought they were making the best choice available to them. Then after Uprising revealed the glaring flaws in the game and how far their official release of the game was from their/our vision inspired by EVE, they started iterating almost monthly in an effort to to get the game to where it needed to be. No game in history has been iterated on so frequently and gone through as many changes and transformations as DUST has in one year.
So CCP made an unprecedented effort to improve DUST and, it would seem, finally came to a breaking point where they had to make a decision: a) accept the limitations of the PS3 and just make the best game possible within those limitations or b) remake the game on PC without those limitations so that it could finally become the game that they originally intended. They chose PC.
Now, first of all, anyone who appreciates how special and amazing EVE is knows CCP would be fools to settle for less than making the EVE of shooters. They couldn't settle, so they chose to move to PC. I wouldn't want them to settle, and anyone who would just doesn't get it. If you don't get it, learn about EVE and you'll start to see how important it is that DUST move to PC so that it can become a true MMOFPS integrated with EVE....or just move on to another game on console.
Secondly, they made this decision based on real technical game development problems which they have professional knowledge of and you forum trolls have next to no understanding of. Devs say, "Well we really need to move to PC so that we can finally start to do x, y, and z with the game and finally move beyond limitations a, b, and c." Forum trolls, not understanding the techno talk and just being plain mad, say "NO! You lied! You BETRAYED us! The 514 stands for May 2014! You planned this all along, using us as guinea pigs so that you could troubleshoot for the real game you intended all the time! I'm biomassing my clone and protesting naked!"
To think that they planned this all along or were trying to milk people of money with recent events before they revealed the truth is outlandish and paranoid. Flaming trolls along these lines are just embarassing, and most of the arguments and vitriol being spewed out on these forums by the raging disappointed are ridiculous and just make the community look like a bunch of immature, self-centered neckbeards with underdeveloped social skills. Produce a shred of evidence. They have clearly said, in effect, "Yes, unless the zombie apocalypse or some crazy lawsuit from Sony keeps us from being able to do it, we will absolutely ensure that you to keep all of your SP and inventory in the PC version."
Show some class and self-respect. A PS3 FPS forum is the only place on earth that you won't be b*tchslapped for talking all your crazy sh*t and throwing such rash accusations around, and just generally being obnoxious in response to these changes. Be grateful that CCP is doing what they HAVE TO DO in order to push DUST 514 past the realm of mediocrity that it has been mired in and attempting, at their own expense, to make it a truly great and unique game that will live up to the standard set by EVE. If you don't care about DUST meeting and exceeding that standard....bye.
TL;DR: Your'e wrong. Do me a favor: Go to youtube, search for 2012 dust keynotes fanfest presentation.
Watch the video - notice something? Like all the stuff coming out in 2013 that never did and are now going to be on a different platform completely?
Do you remember, "LASER FOCUSED ON PS3"
Stop being a fanboy.
Didn't read your post btw. But the line "Only on a ps3 forum would you get away without being... blah blah" was pretty stupid, do you even internet, bro? |
PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:04:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:inohahna mamotto wrote:"laser focused on ps3" when the truth is we are only getting minor bug fixes
ccp's been promising that we would be getting MAVs, Jets, Hoverbikes and pve for ps3 but oh wait their doing that to legion.
Yes, and it will be awesome. They "promised" (overused, childish) that they would eventually put those into the game. They will. On PC. What's your point? No, they promised it for console.
You really need to go youtube what I told you too before you make yourself any dumber then you already are. CCP has been lying for a very, long time. |
PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.05.06 20:39:00 -
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Dear OP:
You didn't put enough SP into fanboying. Once you get into proficiencies you get 5% chance at random non-sense magically making sense per level. |
PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.05.06 21:27:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote: Wow. I'm glad you think me so capable. Sadly no.
Just because you're brown nosing for a job doesn't mean you're capable for it. How do you think Empires have risen and fallen? Incapable people vying for what they can't control. |
PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.05.06 21:33:00 -
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NomaDz 2K wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest. lol, only thing about Dust was that CCP admits NPE blows. Still no word on what they even plan to actually do. So much for 'lots' |
PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:50:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:when legion comes out on PC we will have every promise fulfilled
that is all anyone should be concerned about.
Anyone who thinks staying in the stone age on an old platform is better than moving to a much more adaptive platform like PC is deluding themselves. also any promises made by CCP were for dust not ps3 and ccp will take it anywhere it needs to go to fulfill those promises so no promises have been broken Here here!! Really? People are crying because it's PS3 they love and want to stay on?
Biomass yourselves plz |
PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:59:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:if that keynote said a total change but on ps4 no one would moan yet dust would change exactly the same. the only real issue is limitations which the PC has none
limitations in any way or form are limitations. ccp has no limitations on pc. just look at the continued evolution of eve over the years. yes its always been pc but how many times has it evolved to require more GFX and processing power. PS4 and certainly PS3 are limited in that regard.
eve is now getting 10 releases a year. how many releases do you honestly think we will receive on ps3 especially as the game gets more and more complicated and larger. You are a moron if you think the PC has no limitations. You have to make a PC game that is playable and entertaining for the specs the majority of PC players have or your are shooting yourself in the foot as a company. "PC has no limitations" LOL are you a kid or on some sort of drugs? your missing the point.. ccp are not just making a game they are making ART and will take that art wherever it requires. if that means spec'ing up your pc then thats what they will do. it wouldn't be the first time ccp has required everyone in eve to upgrade their system. what would ccp do if your ps4 needed upgrading to bring in required features to expand their vision. they would go to PC and those that truly care for the game world they created and love will follow. those that don't will leave and the playerbase as a whole will become stronger as has been the case for 11years now with eve. dont fool yourselfs thinking CCP will ever allow dust or any other game in their future to become stagnant with old mechanics and gfx. they will always chase perfection even at the cost of players See, now this is a guy who threw all his SP into fanboys. He can magically say whatever he feels and it becomes true.
stuff like, what CCP does is art, they won't let things become stagnant *Obvious doesn't Dust much these past 2 years*, and player bases get stronger as people leave.
Lol |
PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.05.07 01:46:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:if that keynote said a total change but on ps4 no one would moan yet dust would change exactly the same. the only real issue is limitations which the PC has none
limitations in any way or form are limitations. ccp has no limitations on pc. just look at the continued evolution of eve over the years. yes its always been pc but how many times has it evolved to require more GFX and processing power. PS4 and certainly PS3 are limited in that regard.
eve is now getting 10 releases a year. how many releases do you honestly think we will receive on ps3 especially as the game gets more and more complicated and larger. You are a moron if you think the PC has no limitations. You have to make a PC game that is playable and entertaining for the specs the majority of PC players have or your are shooting yourself in the foot as a company. "PC has no limitations" LOL are you a kid or on some sort of drugs? your missing the point.. ccp are not just making a game they are making ART and will take that art wherever it requires. if that means spec'ing up your pc then thats what they will do. it wouldn't be the first time ccp has required everyone in eve to upgrade their system. what would ccp do if your ps4 needed upgrading to bring in required features to expand their vision. they would go to PC and those that truly care for the game world they created and love will follow. those that don't will leave and the playerbase as a whole will become stronger as has been the case for 11years now with eve. dont fool yourselfs thinking CCP will ever allow dust or any other game in their future to become stagnant with old mechanics and gfx. they will always chase perfection even at the cost of players See, now this is a guy who threw all his SP into fanboys. He can magically say whatever he feels and it becomes true. stuff like, what CCP does is art, they won't let things become stagnant *Obvious doesn't Dust much these past 2 years*, and player bases get stronger as people leave. Lol believe what you want. i really don't care what you believe just like you don't care what i believe. you can sit there with a broken game like dust currently is or you can choose to accept the inevitable changes and follow dust as it moves to PC in its next evolution. if your not willing to adapt to change then you are in with the wrong company. maybe you should move along now before the next changes you don't like lol the ol' "I believe what I wan'"
I'm not just being prick online when I say these rude things to you people - I am being honest. It's a fact a lot of the stuff your spewing is biased non-sense. You may as well just come in here and say PC MASTER RACE. Your on a console game forum, what the **** do you expect???
You call Dust broken - I agree, I love to call it broken all the time, but it's not actually broken, more so then incomplete. And now, abandoned. Regardless if it would do better being completely re-worked else where, is irrelevant. We are here, and we paid and were told lies about our future for a very long time.
So, when I see people like you spewing non-sense, and it is quite literally non-sense, I doubt you understand anything you speak of, I just want to tell you over and over again to biomass. |
PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.05.07 01:54:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote: I am pretty sure he is a CCP developer alt, just talking crap on the forums. I mean no one is really this entirely thick-headed are they? .
lol someone else finally noticed how he's been replying.
He's baiting people to come take a slap at him with the title that is obviously controversial and will stir people.
He's already been shown the many lies. Has he acknowledge a single one? I believe he himself counted 4. But I will speculate no further, as it's pointless even if he was.
But, regardless, this thread should of been over. He's been shown the lies and explained too. If he refuses to accept it then he's just another fanboy.
To companies who work with him in the future - feel free to lie and cheat him all you like - he won't care as long as you keep making flashy promises. |
PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.05.07 02:59:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Surt gods end wrote:SP And ISK will be moved to legion? Hahaha. You make a new game and have the beta of beta's have a head start? why does this idiotic concept sound so familiar?
It will only help the game to have some people right at the start taking the bull by the horns and grabbing for power. It will generate emergent content faster. And the sandbox will be big enough for noobs with 1 mil SP to play in their corner with each other undisturbed until they're ready to venture out into the dangerous world...under the protective wing of this or that don from DUST. And, as in EVE, SP advantages diminish over time. Someone with 30 mil SP will own someone with 10 mil SP, but 40 mil vs. 20 mil is more even, especially if the 20 mil guy has specialized. You stay in high sec until the lords of null sec have a use for you (which will be immediate in Legion, and we will be the lords) and then, even if you're still relatively weak, there's a place for you in the swarm, or horde, or whatever. Once the system is in place everything works within it to create emergent content. Even if some vengeful DUST players banded together to break the game and put CCP out of business, they'd just be generating emergent content. They would be putting money in CCP's pocket and helping the game. Resistance is futile. So, when will it help the game to kill Legion and make PheonixFred90210
It'll be on PS5 which is basically a computer/mac rolled into one with hookers it'll cost 10,000 to own though, which Sony doesn't care at this point because they already won. If you're not up to date you deserve to fall behind, amiright? |
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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.05.07 17:24:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:
I dont qualify Dynasty Warriors as a game, its more of a stress relieving tool when you just want to shut off your mind and slaughter a few thousand guys by hitting Square a lot
You need to leave this conversation if you're already making personal judgement on what's a game or not.
And btw - All games are stress relief tools. Numbnuts.
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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.05.07 17:27:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
I dont qualify Dynasty Warriors as a game, its more of a stress relieving tool when you just want to shut off your mind and slaughter a few thousand guys by hitting Square a lot
You need to leave this conversation if you're already making personal judgement on what's a game or not. And btw - All games are stress relief tools. Numbnuts. That was a joke son Oh, good. There's so many dumb comments around here these days I'm having a hard time finding out which is a joke and which is serious.
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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.05.08 22:27:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Bump! This is against forum rules. Reported.
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