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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:34:00 -
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IGÇÖm pretty much done here. IGÇÖve been having a little fun the last few days stirring up trouble on the forums after getting over the initial shock of FanFest, but havenGÇÖt actually played since. Just have no desire to, for the first time in over a year. The forums are getting dull, too, and CCP is still putting out the same corporate doublespeak without giving any meaningful answers to much of anything.
IGÇÖm nobody special in this game, just an open beta vet who played decently and spent some time on the forums arguing about balance and writing some guides for the noob section (since deleted). So, feel free to ignore this post if you have no idea who I am. And before you ask: -No you canGÇÖt have my stuff, I donGÇÖt have hundreds of millions of ISK anyway. -I have made an informed decision to not play games on PC, so donGÇÖt bother trying to convince me to. -IGÇÖm not butthurt, itGÇÖs CCPGÇÖs game and intellectual property, but as a consumer I feel misled and choose to not do any further business with them. -I have no plans to closely follow/respond to this thread, and am certainly not interested in wasting my time feeding any trolls that show up, so save it.
I guess this is CCPGÇÖs MO over the years, IGÇÖm learning that a little late. But, with no realistic hope that there will be any of the new content we were promised, and, letGÇÖs be honest, virtually zero chance of further console development, thereGÇÖs not much reason for me to play. I only kept playing this essentially broken game for 2 reasons: the future, and having fun playing with people IGÇÖve met in-game. (I guess the laz0r rifle was pretty badass too) Both of those things are pretty much gone now. IGÇÖll definitely log in one of these days to get everyoneGÇÖs PSN IDGÇÖs, and maybe play once or twice over the next few months if people I like are on. IGÇÖll also still be looking to see what CCP is up to and if they actually fix this mess (see below) which will require me to hit the forums few days or so, but for all intents and purposes, IGÇÖm a ghost now.
So, why write this? For my own self-aggrandizement, of course, but also to say something to 3 groups of people: 1)The players: From the fellow vets in my corp to the Amarr FW people, especially the PCLAS crew, [/b]o7[/b]. ItGÇÖs been great, a lot of you will be getting psn friend invites from me in the near future. If you donGÇÖt get one, itGÇÖs more due to my own laziness, my psn ID is in my sig, feel free to friend me, IGÇÖm not elitist. 2) Forum warriors: IGÇÖm still right and you are still wrong! But the battle is the best part. I salute you as well.
o7
I'm out. See you on the other side.
psn: bobswerski
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
3161
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:34:00 -
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Finally, to CCP: Eventually such shoddy treatment of your players is going to catch up to you. Saberwing and Logibro can do all the damage control they want, but the simple fact of the matter is, we were misled for months about progression of this game, being encouraged to buy aurum with the promises of new content and long-term progression in the same format. Now we know better.
Maybe you guys really are competent programmers and the PS3 really was the only issue. I doubt it, but letGÇÖs say thatGÇÖs true. That is completely unrelated and does not excuse how you treated a very loyal group of players.
Moreover, to do this, and then be faced with obvious disapproval by your customers, and say essentially nothing for 48 hours, is pathetic, and reeks of incompetence, contempt, or both.
Even still, days later, the following things that, honestly, almost any well run business would have done to demonstrate a commitment to customers, have not happened:
1)An actual apology - Saberwings short and bland one, buried in a thread, is insufficient, and heGÇÖs not even the one who should be doing it. Rouge has said nothing even remotely contrite to date.
2)Concrete explanations of how our concerns will be addressed and why this happened. The responses to our concerns have been nebulous at best, and late GǪ I mean, why not mention right away characters would be transferred over if that was your plan? That would have cooled a lot of the rage. The fact that you didnGÇÖt makes me suspect you are backpedaling on the original plan, which is a bad one anyway, predicating all this on a game thatGÇÖs not even greenlit by the CEO!
3)Some type of good-faith offer to refund, at the very least, the last month or two of aurum sales. Changing plans and using your own intellectual property as best you see fit is one thing. But misleading customers into paying for something they are not actually getting is another. Is it a classic bait and switch? Maybe not, but I can make an argument that hyping boosters and the origin pack just [/u]days[u] before FanFest, is very very close. No amount of backpedaling, dubious promises about Legion features and character transfer can erase that one!
You do those three things, CCP, and you will restore most of our faith in you (however misplaced) and may get me back as a customer. Otherwise, IGÇÖm not interested in supporting you as a company any longer.
Good day to you, sirs!
o7
I'm out. See you on the other side.
psn: bobswerski
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:09:00 -
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Mojo XXXIII wrote:Wow, pretty much also sums up my thoughts on the matter exactly!
Thank you for sparing me the effort of typing essentially the same thing.
Good luck and have fun!
o7
lol. Now you can make your own quit thread and just link it!
Will admit myself that I was influenced by things people like Reav Hannari and KingBabar have said.
o7
I'm out. See you on the other side.
psn: bobswerski
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.05.06 20:01:00 -
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The Noob Destroyer wrote:o7. It has been an honor knowing you.
I am glad you wrote this. I am not the best public speaker or speech maker but you have just reflected my own feelings through your own words. I know how you feel and I feel the same way. I wish you luck in your best game and perhaps we will run into each other again someday on the battlefield of another game? I would like that very much.
You got it, Ripper, and thanks.
I play a wide variety of pretty random games, mostly not FPS, but hit me up any time. Currently I'm trying to get through the backlog of PS+ free games I never got around to because I was so addicted to Dust! WIll definitely try Destiny eventually, maybe once I get a PS4 (xmas?)
(I did subscribe to your twitter the other day, tho I admittedly don't use it a whole hell of a lot.)
o7
I'm out. See you on the other side.
psn: bobswerski
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.05.06 23:35:00 -
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Wow, thanks guys. Can't say I expected this kind of response... Figured a few trolls would show up and then it fade away. Damnit now you've made me care about reading this again. Likes for everybody... I love you, man! *sniff*
@ True: We will all remember the Junip Crusade. I did what I could under your tutelage. If I ever do move on to legion, my laser rifle is ever at the service of the Empire! Sounds like Destiny is the next big thing, perhaps we will fight again together there. (I was fighting for the other empire last night.. Went back to warhammer space marine for a night, was kinda fun.)
You still playing Dust for now? I may pop in once or twice to burn some officer weapons or those imperial specialist LR's I was saving for a rainy day. Gotta log in to get everyone's PSN anyway...
@ Rami: why is it that everyone good I try to recruit to UNIT ends up in Hellstorm instead? Even Aisha ended up there for a few days! It's like a conspiracy or something.
Loki or Punisher must have me under surveillance.... *puts on tinfoil hat*
o7
I'm out. See you on the other side.
psn: bobswerski
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.05.07 11:43:00 -
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low genius wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Wow, thanks guys. Can't say I expected this kind of response... Figured a few trolls would show up and then it fade away. Damnit now you've made me care about reading this again. Likes for everybody... I love you, man! *sniff*
@ True: We will all remember the Junip Crusade. I did what I could under your tutelage. If I ever do move on to legion, my laser rifle is ever at the service of the Empire! ((Sounds like Destiny is the next big thing, perhaps we will fight again together there. (I was fighting for the other empire last night.. Went back to warhammer space marine for a night, was kinda fun.)
You still playing Dust for now? I may pop in once or twice to burn some officer weapons or those imperial specialist LR's I was saving for a rainy day. Gotta log in to get everyone's PSN anyway...))
@ Rami: why is it that everyone good I try to recruit to UNIT ends up in Hellstorm instead? Even Aisha ended up there for a few days! It's like a conspiracy or something.
Loki or Punisher must have me under surveillance.... *puts on tinfoil hat* there are no enemies left in molden heath. only victims.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend?
Speaking of which, I did get some invites last night, and accepted all of them, but please let me know who you are from dust so I can keep everyone straight! My memory is going in my old age, lol.
o7
I'm out. See you on the other side.
psn: bobswerski
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
3212
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Posted - 2014.05.08 12:59:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:GG John, Bane of Demons. Thanks for all the Likes and not getting my way on the battlefield.
Adding your PSN, see you in Destiny? Sooner than SoonGäó...
Didn't get your invite that I saw, unless it's a name I didn't recognize.
Also, watched the trailer and other vids of Destiny finally, looks pretty sweet. If you can migrate from PS3 to PS4 maybe I will get it before I move to PS4 after all...
@lowgenius: Chess, eh? How very analog of you!
Quitting cold turkey was impossible. The forum patch is helping me kick the habit!
See you in Destiny
psn: bobswerski
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