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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:20:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:I wrote extensively about this subject in an open letter to CCP Rouge. I agree completely that this new system makes no sense. CCP Z got nearly everything wrong. If he pushes forward with this idea, Project Legion will suffer the same fate as Star Wars Galaxies after they nuked the progression system to make it "accessible." We need a much better UI, and the trees do need some re-architecting, but they need to keep the EVE style skill system.
+1, if new players screwing up their initial progression is such a concern, offer players a remap (didn't say RESPEC)
The DUST skill progression doesn't need to be totally reinvented. The problems with vets/noobs aren't all based on gear/passive skills. The issues we see are due to:
1) Lack of inventive to squad up and/or win battles
2) lack of tutorial and/or remap for new players after comprehension is achieved
3) ISK
4) talent/experience concentration
among many others, these are just a few
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:21:00 -
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Kovinis Sparagas wrote:Luke Vetri wrote:Vell0cet wrote:I wrote extensively about this subject in an open letter to CCP Rouge. I agree completely that this new system makes no sense. CCP Z got nearly everything wrong. If he pushes forward with this idea, Project Legion will suffer the same fate as Star Wars Galaxies after they nuked the progression system to make it "accessible." We need a much better UI, and the trees do need some re-architecting, but they need to keep the EVE style skill system. This ^ This ^ I'd say just go and copy-paste EVE skill tree. This game lasts for 11 years, and don't confuse new players. Also it will speed up Legion development if you don't need to invent new stuff (and let's be honest - we want it in our HDD as fast as possible)
The Eve skill system is pretty awesome. The changes they continue to make to the UI is great.
Seems like a no brainer to use the Eve model
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:23:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Omg are you guys for real like really you that dense you could follow what he is doing. Jesus Dust514 is living example of why devs should do their own thing.
Anyone who thinks they didnt pay attention to feedback was paying attention to the wider communty.
I support Zs idea we get to keep same level of customisation in our fittings while making it a lot more newb friendly
The customization and depth is why I can't seem to leave Dust. I play other FPS and always think, "that's it?"
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:29:00 -
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I don't agree with that at all. In Eve you don't HAVE to put that turret on that frigate, but not doing so kills any chance you had before you undocked.
They should encourage roles, but it's the players pushing things past what they were intended for that provides feedback for evolving the game.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:33:00 -
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Gaelon Thrace wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Omg are you guys for real like really you that dense you could follow what he is doing. Jesus Dust514 is living example of why devs should do their own thing.
Anyone who thinks they didnt pay attention to feedback was paying attention to the wider communty.
I support Zs idea we get to keep same level of customisation in our fittings while making it a lot more newb friendly THIS^ Also, I just watched the roundtable where Z says we'll be able to queue up our skills like they do in EVE and get notifications as we gain SP when a skill in our queue has been unlocked. That's pretty awesome.
It would be a terrible idea to not have active SP though. To me the passive only EVE SP is bad for Eve, I'd actually play Eve more if there was active SP.
I want dudes to shoot, not dudes logging in to update their queue in preparation for the day they decide to undock, errrr I mean join a battle.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:34:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:I like the idea of the dropsuit having the same effect as core skills. Affecting everything. Thats what I took away. Our selves in game is our SP, would be cool if the skill tree was our dropsuit.
I like that dropsuits would be the thing growing and evolving, making your roles into how you play them.
I need to smoke a bowl and consider your post from a more spiritual perspective.
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