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Ankbar Latrommi
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Posted - 2014.05.06 14:46:00 -
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As I read all the many threads about the farce of a Dust keynote, I am detecting a common theme. Many of you seem to be feeling like "CCP, this was a horrible way to communicate this. All you needed to do was X. Please don't F_ up like that again!" I can only surmise that you have entered the New Eden universe via DUST514 and haven't really kept track of CCP in its past decade. (Why would you.)
Others have said this in their own replies to the various threads, but I haven't detected any change in the common understanding, so I thought I'd make a thread just to point it out specifically. This is the way CCP does things. Ridiculously. Stupidly. Handling PR like they're in a competition to see how many customers they can p__s off. If you didn't come from Eve:Online you might not realize this, but CCP has been as intuitive as a turtle for over a decade now.
Have you read anyone's comment who used stereotypical quotes of an abused spouse or such things? That's what this is like, but it isn't just from the past 2-3 years of Dust development. CCP has been like this for a decade. CCP is not a young company still trying to figure out how to read and communicate with their customer base. If experience is the ultimate teacher, they've spent more hours in class than virtually any other company thrice their age. The only answer is either the whole staff, past and present, are on the asperger scale somewhere or they simply don't care to try to get better. The odds of it being the former is pretty freaking slim.
I welcome feedback, questions, etc, and for other Eve:Online vets to either support or challenge my post.
My main hope in posting this is that for those of you who are new customers of CCP will not build future expectations expecting a normal company's reaction and development, only to be let down a number of times in the coming 2-5 years. I'm hoping to help spare you from that wasted investment, involvement, and dedication. Go forward if you like, I'm not saying not to, just know what you can realistically expect from CCP. Do the research.
Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning."
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Ankbar Latrommi
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Posted - 2014.05.06 15:06:00 -
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Ender Storm wrote:Well, to their credit they do things other companies don't do.
Please elaborate. For those who are new to CCP, it's useful for them to know the pros which might provide balance to the cons.
Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning."
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Ankbar Latrommi
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Posted - 2014.05.06 15:18:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Their Icelandic being straight talking is in their blood. HTFU is pretty much the mindset of any nord its why i love watching them try PR. They be like Jesus why you pansys getting all upset we just changed some numbers :-P
Straight-forward does not explain placing "new game!" announcements in keynote for the game it will be replacing. Especially then having no news about the game the keynote is supposed to be on.
Straight-forward might barely explain but does not justify "Don't pay attention to what {Eve:O players} say, pay attention to what they do."
Straight-forward does not explain letting hybrids sit broken for several years.
I'm all about HTFU, but not to the point where you lose compassion and understanding. HTFU is a fine thing to say to someone who's being entitled or overly-sensitive(which might vary according to culture...), but not someone just asking to be treated as a valued customer who had dedicated time and effort contributing to your still-developing game.
Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning."
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Ankbar Latrommi
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Posted - 2014.05.06 15:18:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:I now understand i need to be a better customer and i will save for a pc
Please elaborate how you arrived to that conclusion.
Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning."
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Ankbar Latrommi
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Posted - 2014.05.06 15:45:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Ankbar Latrommi wrote:Hin Raven wrote:I now understand i need to be a better customer and i will save for a pc Please elaborate how you arrived to that conclusion. Its from a quote i saw on the eve forums dont expect ccp to be better company its our job to be a better customer its sarky and i liked it
1) Why shouldn't not CCP be a better company? Or why should we not expect CCP to be a better company? (Actually, "expect" could mean two different things here: Either expect as in predict or plan for, or expect as in feel it is deserved.)
2) How would we be better customers?
Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning."
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Ankbar Latrommi
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:14:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Yet EVE is still alive and well.
Please note the purpose of this thread: To make new-comers aware. I am not saying CCP should burn to the ground, or rallying for a boycott of their games. Only providing information, especially historical information, which could be useful for some people in making their decisions.
The decisions are theirs to make.
Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning."
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Ankbar Latrommi
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:29:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:It's sarcasm
Poe's law.
Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning."
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Ankbar Latrommi
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:34:00 -
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still seeing it, bumping.
Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning."
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