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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2014.05.06 05:46:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:.. that CCP thinks of the real world as New Eden. CCP Saberwing wrote:
EVE is a virtual world whose inhabitants have more freedom to play the villain and experiment with various backhanded tactics than in any other MMO. The freedom to scam and commit piracy, espionage, and extortion are all fundamental to the EVE Online experience, and CCP will never change that. However, it is important to remember that the EVE universe is a virtual world, and behavior of this nature should remain firmly within that virtual world.
I would like an example of an incident where CCP has scammed, pirated, spied on or extorted anyone.
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:01:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:deezy dabest wrote:.. that CCP thinks of the real world as New Eden. CCP Saberwing wrote:
EVE is a virtual world whose inhabitants have more freedom to play the villain and experiment with various backhanded tactics than in any other MMO. The freedom to scam and commit piracy, espionage, and extortion are all fundamental to the EVE Online experience, and CCP will never change that. However, it is important to remember that the EVE universe is a virtual world, and behavior of this nature should remain firmly within that virtual world.
I would like an example of an incident where CCP has scammed, pirated, spied on or extorted anyone. Continuously saying things like 10 year road map and laser focused on PS3, bragging about the amazing new things to be announced at fanfest, and then hosting a bunch of events meant to siphon money out of people right before they announce they are stopping future updates for the game and possibly starting all over on a different platform may not quite be a scam to some people but it is most certainly not honest actions.
In all fairness, back when CCP used to say things like "10-year road map" and "laser-focused on PS3", they probably did mean them. And there was some amazing stuff at Fanfest. And it's not like people didn't get what they paid for, either.
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:06:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Quote:
514.040b Theft by deception.
(1) A person is guilty of theft by deception when the person obtains property or
services of another by deception with intent to deprive the person thereof. A
person deceives when the person intentionally:
(a) Creates or reinforces a false impression, including false impressions as to law, value, intention, or other state of mind;
(b) Prevents another from acquiring information which would affect judgment of a transaction;
(c) Fails to correct a false impression which the deceiver previously created or reinforced or which the deceiver knows to be influencing another to whom the person stands in a fiduciary or confidential relationship;
This is the state staute for the state of Kentucky which is echoed in a very similar form in most US states. They created and reinforced the position all the way up to Fanfest talking about the next evolution of Dust all while creating event to intentionally get people to spend more money knowing that their lie would be revealed at fanfest.
By these definitions, CCP hasn't done anything wrong. Preventing someone from acquiring information is not the same as withholding information, unless you are legally required to not withhold that information.
Also, "Kentucky". Last I checked, CCP was based in Iceland.
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:11:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Quote:
514.040b Theft by deception.
(1) A person is guilty of theft by deception when the person obtains property or
services of another by deception with intent to deprive the person thereof. A
person deceives when the person intentionally:
(a) Creates or reinforces a false impression, including false impressions as to law, value, intention, or other state of mind;
(b) Prevents another from acquiring information which would affect judgment of a transaction;
(c) Fails to correct a false impression which the deceiver previously created or reinforced or which the deceiver knows to be influencing another to whom the person stands in a fiduciary or confidential relationship;
This is the state staute for the state of Kentucky which is echoed in a very similar form in most US states. They created and reinforced the position all the way up to Fanfest talking about the next evolution of Dust all while creating event to intentionally get people to spend more money knowing that their lie would be revealed at fanfest. By these definitions, CCP hasn't done anything wrong. Preventing someone from acquiring information is not the same as withholding information, unless you are legally required to not withhold that information. Also, "Kentucky". Last I checked, CCP was based in Iceland. Yes they are most certainly exempt from that particular law by location but the fact still stands that they continued to reinforce a false impression all the way up to the Dust keynote and used that false impression to gain extra sales.
Every game company in the world is guilty of creating and reinforcing false impressions.
Every. Single. One.
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:19:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:Every game company in the world is guilty of creating and reinforcing false impressions.
Every. Single. One. Yep. That makes it totally fine. My bad.
That's right, it makes it totally fine.
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:30:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:Every game company in the world is guilty of creating and reinforcing false impressions.
Every. Single. One. Yep. That makes it totally fine. My bad. That's right, it makes it totally fine. I hear there is a great party this weekend where everyone will be jumping off a bridge.
Sounds fun!
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