DUST Search - the real meaning of dust 514

Delanus Turgias wrote:

Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:

Also, Empress Jamyl's cloning process didn't go perfectly and she seems to have some sort of alternate personality lurking behind her mind. Is this the evil entity trying to take control of the Eve Universe using the Empress?

This is correct. That evil entity is what brought upon the downfall of The Sleepers and it was lurking in the clone body that Jamyl Sarum reincarnated into. All of the other Sleepers know of this, and the Templar Clones that went "crazy" were actually The Sleepers inhabiting those bodies trying to take control and warn everyone about the coming evil. Unfortunately, such warnings came too late and now that evil is in control of the single most powerful Human in the universe. Sarum can regain control of herself and often has seemingly schizophrenic struggles to control her body, but she is still mostly being subjugated by this ancient Sleeper nightmare.

For the record, that's why all the original clones went "insane". The original clone bodies were actually Sleepers that were foricibly ripped out of the derelict stations and used as guinea pigs for the first Templars, and this process of using Sleeper bodies to make clones continued in all 4 empires until the Amarr created Gen 2 clones, which were vat grown and did not have latent Sleepers repressed in their brains.


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Lucrezia LeGrand Sentinels of New Eden 555	Posted - 2014.05.06 01:24:00 - [1] - Quote So, since Dust is dead, can you tell us what the 514 in Dust 514 means? I always thought that the 5 was a reference to the five major races (Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar and Jovian) The 1 was an evil entity that had been created in the collective conscience of the sleeping Jovians and had found out how to take control of people that had the implants that allowed the transfer of consciences. and the 4 was a reference to how the Jovians were essentially slaves to this entity, but the four (Amarr, Caldari, Gallente and Minmatar) are still left to decide the future of the human race. Also, Empress Jamyl's cloning process didn't go perfectly and she seems to have some sort of alternate personality lurking behind her mind. Is this the evil entity trying to take control of the Eve Universe using the Empress? Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man). My other car is Utena.
Lucrezia LeGrand Sentinels of New Eden 555	Posted - 2014.05.06 01:28:00 - [2] - Quote I always figured that the first Templars went crazy when the entity tried to take control. In the process they killed the scientists around them and then scrawled 514 in an attempt to warn everyone about the cloning procedure. Then they killed themselves. Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man). My other car is Utena.
Lucrezia LeGrand Sentinels of New Eden 558	Posted - 2014.05.06 01:32:00 - [3] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: I always figured that the first Templars went crazy when the entity tried to take control. In the process they killed the scientists around them and then scrawled 514 in an attempt to warn everyone about the cloning procedure. Then they killed themselves. That's what happened but I'm not sure why 5-1-4....like is it coordinates? Is it a code? Idk....the speculation is killing me!!!! Yeah!! Exactly! And there are a few references to the bible when you look up chapter 5:14 in several books that could be about Eve. But I have a feeling that CCP meant for the 514 to also have some sort of Eve universe lore behind it instead of just being some kind of cool Easter egg. CCP, can you tell us? Blue tags? Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man). My other car is Utena.
Lucrezia LeGrand Sentinels of New Eden 558	Posted - 2014.05.06 01:36:00 - [4] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: Yeah!! Exactly! And there are a few references to the bible when you look up chapter 5:14 in several books that could be about Eve. But I have a feeling that CCP meant for the 514 to also have some sort of Eve universe lore behind it instead of just being some kind of cool Easter egg. CCP, can you tell us? Blue tags? I've made several threads before, so far we know it's not a bible reference. Rumour is the answer is in Templar One (hidden of course), and that an eve player found out awhile ago and was sworn to secrecy....I cannot confirm this though You mean the book Templar One? Are there any other theories besides the evil jovian entity one? Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man). My other car is Utena.
Lucrezia LeGrand Sentinels of New Eden 560	Posted - 2014.05.06 01:42:00 - [5] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: 5 lobes, 1 consciousness, 4 factions Yeah, I read about that. how we have 4 lobes in our brains but the 5th one is the implant that allows clones to exist by transferring their minds. But I'm 98% positive that there's also another story behind it. I mean, why would the early Templars write 514 before killing themselves if it just meant "I have 5 lobes now." I think the Templars were trying to warn us. Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man). My other car is Utena.
Lucrezia LeGrand Sentinels of New Eden 560	Posted - 2014.05.06 01:48:00 - [6] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: DNSBlack says he knows so eve mail him and ask because I don't think CCP is going to tell us. I asked this same question the other day. DNSBlack? Ok. I'll do it. Thanks for sending me his/her name. If I find out I'll let everyone know (unless CCP threatens me, in which case I'll just leave some subtle clues). Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man). My other car is Utena.
Lucrezia LeGrand Sentinels of New Eden 563	Posted - 2014.05.06 02:01:00 - [7] - Quote Okay. I sent a message to DNSBlack. just waiting for a reply. Is it possible to send in-game messages to any of the devs? I'm not expecting them to give me an answer right away because I'm sure they want to preserve the mystery, but if I can at least get the next clue that would be really helpful. Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man). My other car is Utena.
Lucrezia LeGrand Sentinels of New Eden 563	Posted - 2014.05.06 02:05:00 - [8] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: Also, Empress Jamyl's cloning process didn't go perfectly and she seems to have some sort of alternate personality lurking behind her mind. Is this the evil entity trying to take control of the Eve Universe using the Empress? This is correct. That evil entity is what brought upon the downfall of The Sleepers and it was lurking in the clone body that Jamyl Sarum reincarnated into. All of the other Sleepers know of this, and the Templar Clones that went "crazy" were actually The Sleepers inhabiting those bodies trying to take control and warn everyone about the coming evil. Unfortunately, such warnings came too late and now that evil is in control of the single most powerful Human in the universe. Sarum can regain control of herself and often has seemingly schizophrenic struggles to control her body, but she is still mostly being subjugated by this ancient Sleeper nightmare. For the record, that's why all the original clones went "insane". The original clone bodies were actually Sleepers that were foricibly ripped out of the derelict stations and used as guinea pigs for the first Templars, and this process of using Sleeper bodies to make clones continued in all 4 empires until the Amarr created Gen 2 clones, which were vat grown and did not have latent Sleepers repressed in their brains. OH... MY... GOD. I knew it! I KNEW IT! How come no one is talking about this?!? This is huge? this could change everything! This HAS changed everything!! Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man). My other car is Utena.
Lucrezia LeGrand Sentinels of New Eden 564	Posted - 2014.05.06 02:10:00 - [9] - Quote Why is CCP staying quiet on this? maybe they're sleepers! Anyways, no word yet form DNSBlack. He's probably doing something in real life. pfffff Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man). My other car is Utena.
Lucrezia LeGrand Sentinels of New Eden 566	Posted - 2014.05.06 02:23:00 - [10] - Quote I... I feel betrayed. What am I? a clone? what is a clone? Is this how the mystery ends? with the Empress left under the control of the Sleeper? With the Universe at the mercy of this evil? And we can't do anything about it? CCP, please, tell me what I must do. Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man). My other car is Utena.