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Koshh Seere
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.05.06 20:38:00 -
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Jake Diesel wrote:PonyClause Rex wrote:Stop spending money in game right now, and save it for a PC, you have one maybe 2 years to save up so there will be no excuse.
Pros:
You still get to play a better Dust514
You now have a PC
A new library of games become available including past Console titles for free via roms and emlators with the use of a control pad too.
Better DPI with M/KB Input
You are now in the master race club (I joke I joke)
You can upgrade hard ware
Cons:
Everyone will call you a CCP lapdog, PC elitist, egger, traitor, or otherwise.
All my online friends are on PSN
Its sort of hard to lie on my couch and play with a M/KB.....
Adapting to KB/M input
PC takes up too much room meaning wife kicks you out of lounge (lol I can relate)
PC Require more maintenance, antivirus software, driver updates etc I got out of pc gaming back in the mid 2000. And I'm glad I did. It's perhaps the costliest investment I've ever made. No one game is worth going back to pc. And a $300 rig will not run Legion in its full potential. If you can't run this game, or any other high profile game with max settings without a drop in framerate. Then it's not worth investing. A lot of the newer games are starting to push graphics to the next level. Every owner out there who's built their own pc is a essentially a whole different system. It's like having hundreds of different PlayStations out there and none of them are the same. And all the variations of software, drivers, etc..it's no wonder pc games get contant bug issues. But it's the hardware upgrades in the long term that gets you. There's a reason why pc games have a "recommended" spec for your pc. Because if you don't have that. You're not running smooth. Legion needs to hit the PS4 sooner than later. There's a lot of horsepower under that hood that can handle Legion. The later CCP ports this over to PS4 means that they'll have spent less time knowing the system to max it's potential. PC's aren't worth one game.
Wrong, Intel was showing of minipc's that were really cheap and small at fanfest that could run EVE at max settings, saying a $300 rig can't run legion when it comes out is just naive stupidity. |
Koshh Seere
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.05.06 20:44:00 -
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Jastaddd Death seeker wrote:I love peole that read what they link!!! in your second Link Revision 3! A small form factor Home Theater PC ideal for light gaming, oldschool gaming, console emulators, streaming, and making use of Steam's In-Home Streaming feature (currently in beta). Please note: this is not designed as a primary gaming system, and is not built like one. The small case, built-in PSU, and APU drastically limit upgrade potential, and the performance is below that of the next-gen consoles. However, it is capable of modern games and it is much stronger than the last-gen consoles. EDIT: i add a thing because i think it's not clear. The flaw in what you think is that i WILL not face PS4, in Legion i will be facing Players with Gaming rig, players that will have an advantage not coming from skill, but coming from their hardware
So you are saying your skill as a player stems from your rig? |
Koshh Seere
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.05.06 21:14:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:Ender Storm wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:
First build:
No price for harddrive (+$100)
No bluray drive (+$50)
No blurray movie software (+$50)
No OS (+$100)
NO KB/M (+$20)
Case Fans (+$10)
Hey right there is $330 you omitted from that build. OF course that PC is going to take 2-3 times more electricity as well.
Now let me guess your response:
Pirate windows
Pirate blurray software (yes you have to have this, I own a blurray on my PC, there is no built-in software for it)
You should already have a KB/M
blah blah blah
Also, that setup is not going to beat a Ps4 in anyway shape or form. Ps4 has nearly no overhead for an OS, games are actually "optimized" for one type of hardware(I know, PC guys don't understand optimization.) In 3-4 years that PS4 will still play all of the latest games, just like the PS3 plays a ton of games that a 7800 GTX will not anymore.
You can get a nice hardrive for $60. Add there, like I said, the kbm cost. Windows too. It will add about $200 in the end, true. But for the added utility of a PC over a PS, I dont mind, especially since many parts can last thru several builds. Why in the freaking world would you want a bluray drive, or worse, a bluray app on a gaming pc escapes me. The case comes packed already with fans. You cant compare a PS3 with a gpu that was available at the time, because when PS3 came out it was a freaking good machine, not a mid-level pc like the PS4. I believe also at the time the price was a lot stepier than the new version in todays values. Yeah, the PS4 is hyper optimized, using just about 50% of its ram for the OS http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/07/report-os-overhead-takes-up-3-5gb-of-ps4s-8gb-of-ram/The reason the consoles still run new games is that the games are held back (ops, "optimized") because of the old hardware that dosent evolve, while on PC they see releases with advanced graphics and more options to make things look pretier - if you want them too, because the quality of the game is in your hands. #1 The link you posted is PCnazi fluff, not backed up by a single developer or sony. #2 No you need to add the bluray, thats another $100 (the drive is $50 and the move playing software and there is no freeware for that, I have checked) so that is $100 for windows $100 for blurray functionality $65 as per newegg for a HDD $20 for a crappy mouse/KB which puts another $285 above the cost of what you originally quoted for a gaming PC that will not be as proficient at games, will cost at least an extra $30 per year in electricity (hey the same price you can get PSPlus for all of the time), and no perpetual free triple A games (because of the free Plus due to electrical savings). In the end though, Like I have said, most gaming develoment money will always head towards consoles because that is where the money is at. Sure, if you spend 2-3 times as much as you would on a Ps4 you can get a little prettier graphics, but you will be playing the same game, designed with the same limitations as the console has. Face it, gaming is centered around consoles, not PC. Consoles are cheaper, you can own a console without an internet connect (like half of the planet BTW), the community is WAY nicer/funner, and you will always have the majority of development money thrown at your platform rather than the PC dungeon N4zis.
Are you saying I can't have my pc without internet for gaming? Also you ad hominem argu,emts against pc players really should get you banned imho. |
Koshh Seere
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5
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Posted - 2014.05.06 21:34:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:Koshh Seere wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:Ender Storm wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:
First build:
No price for harddrive (+$100)
No bluray drive (+$50)
No blurray movie software (+$50)
No OS (+$100)
NO KB/M (+$20)
Case Fans (+$10)
Hey right there is $330 you omitted from that build. OF course that PC is going to take 2-3 times more electricity as well.
Now let me guess your response:
Pirate windows
Pirate blurray software (yes you have to have this, I own a blurray on my PC, there is no built-in software for it)
You should already have a KB/M
blah blah blah
Also, that setup is not going to beat a Ps4 in anyway shape or form. Ps4 has nearly no overhead for an OS, games are actually "optimized" for one type of hardware(I know, PC guys don't understand optimization.) In 3-4 years that PS4 will still play all of the latest games, just like the PS3 plays a ton of games that a 7800 GTX will not anymore.
You can get a nice hardrive for $60. Add there, like I said, the kbm cost. Windows too. It will add about $200 in the end, true. But for the added utility of a PC over a PS, I dont mind, especially since many parts can last thru several builds. Why in the freaking world would you want a bluray drive, or worse, a bluray app on a gaming pc escapes me. The case comes packed already with fans. You cant compare a PS3 with a gpu that was available at the time, because when PS3 came out it was a freaking good machine, not a mid-level pc like the PS4. I believe also at the time the price was a lot stepier than the new version in todays values. Yeah, the PS4 is hyper optimized, using just about 50% of its ram for the OS http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/07/report-os-overhead-takes-up-3-5gb-of-ps4s-8gb-of-ram/The reason the consoles still run new games is that the games are held back (ops, "optimized") because of the old hardware that dosent evolve, while on PC they see releases with advanced graphics and more options to make things look pretier - if you want them too, because the quality of the game is in your hands. #1 The link you posted is PCnazi fluff, not backed up by a single developer or sony. #2 No you need to add the bluray, thats another $100 (the drive is $50 and the move playing software and there is no freeware for that, I have checked) so that is $100 for windows $100 for blurray functionality $65 as per newegg for a HDD $20 for a crappy mouse/KB which puts another $285 above the cost of what you originally quoted for a gaming PC that will not be as proficient at games, will cost at least an extra $30 per year in electricity (hey the same price you can get PSPlus for all of the time), and no perpetual free triple A games (because of the free Plus due to electrical savings). In the end though, Like I have said, most gaming develoment money will always head towards consoles because that is where the money is at. Sure, if you spend 2-3 times as much as you would on a Ps4 you can get a little prettier graphics, but you will be playing the same game, designed with the same limitations as the console has. Face it, gaming is centered around consoles, not PC. Consoles are cheaper, you can own a console without an internet connect (like half of the planet BTW), the community is WAY nicer/funner, and you will always have the majority of development money thrown at your platform rather than the PC dungeon N4zis. Are you saying I can't have my pc without internet for gaming? Also you ad hominem arguments against pc players really should get you banned imho. Who sells computer games anymore? Even if you find some magical vendor that does actually sell PC releases, they are going to fleece you, and you still will not be able to trade them in after purchase, oh and quite a few PC games require at least a primary authentication through the internet. And so we come to the truth of it, you are upset because your B.S. PCmasterrace is basically just smoke and mirrors, and now that someone is succesfully showing that A) you will lie in order to try to make PC gaming better and B) consoles are way cheaper, of higher priority, and better for the majority of the planet (whether that be through less power use or because most of the planet doesn't have internet) or C) PC hardware =/= console hardware. Ps3 ended up putting out games with graphics and gameplay that now computer with 256 MB of system ram and a 256 MB 7800 GTX, or 8800GTX, or possibly even a 9800GTX would be able to match. Have fun with your overpriced epeen machine.
WTF did I lie about? |
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