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John Surratt wrote:

Mary Lilac wrote:

A bunch of eve players started crying because their barbie doll accessories were overpriced.

Then someone got hold of a Hilmar letter saying that actions speak louder than words.

Then they started crying their butts off...

Their game was canceled or moved
They lost no progress
They invest no money
They were not in any way lied to

Actually, first CCP promised to never ever ever make EVE pay to win.

Then, a bunch of EVE players got pissed off that CCP introduced expensive barbie doll accessories and one single dirty room to look a them in that added no game play value instead of new in game content all while pouring money into developing a F2P game for console and a F2P vampire game. . then right when that happened the EVE players got a hold of a letter that said, "hey, maybe we could make money on selling items that gave advantage in game. . ."

Then they got pissed because the $180 a year they poured into CCP per account wasn't actually going towards their game and content. . .

Progress on content had been stalled and stuff was still broken from years before. . .
Their time and investment was not being repaid. .
They felt they were being lied to because CCP had promised to "never ever ever" introduce Pay to win into EVE and yet they were kicking the idea around in an internal news letter. . .

Then 10% of the player base unsubscribed and people got laid off because CCP still had to pay off the loans they took out to finance World of Darkness & DUST development.

Write up from the CSM chair who flew to Rek for the emergency summit:

http://themittani.com/content/soss-67-incarna-postmortem-6

original "Greed is Good letter is long since gone but summary of inflamatory bits is below

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435212

Just as CCP had to disentangle itself from Incarna, they need to disentangle themselves from what is quite obviously a broken MMOFPS to try and build a good one, or at least one that does everything they want it to do.

So yeah actually, those of us who were around for that do get why DUST players are pissed, even if you don't understand what you are talking about in reference to Incarna or just want to troll.

So either quit trolling or get your facts straight.

1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!

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Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 124	Posted - 2014.05.05 07:03:00 - [1] - Quote A bunch of eve players started crying because their barbie doll accessories were overpriced. Then someone got hold of a Hilmar letter saying that actions speak louder than words. Then they started crying their butts off... Their game was canceled or moved They lost no progress They invest no money They were not in any way lied to 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 129	Posted - 2014.05.05 07:25:00 - [2] - Quote Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote: In other words..... learn from the EVE playerbase's failure and support these guys instead of lambasting them and encouraging other players to quit and demand refunds. It's only hurting the community. If you want to quit, by all means, walk away. But do so with some dignity, FFS. Did you not pay attention to the entire event? CCP didn't care about the jita riots, they didn't care about the forums, they only cared about the massive number of account cancellations. That is the ONLY reason they changed course, because they saw that they were on track towards loosing half a million dollars EVERY MONTH. The lesson learned from it? Take you time/money away from CCP, and raise as much hell as you can while you do it so that others will also take their time/money away from CCP. The only thing that has motivated them to change course is money... this is historical fact. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 136	Posted - 2014.05.05 08:01:00 - [3] - Quote John Surratt wrote: Mary Lilac wrote: A bunch of eve players started crying because their barbie doll accessories were overpriced. Then someone got hold of a Hilmar letter saying that actions speak louder than words. Then they started crying their butts off... Their game was canceled or moved They lost no progress They invest no money They were not in any way lied to Actually, first CCP promised to never ever ever make EVE pay to win. Then, a bunch of EVE players got pissed off that CCP introduced expensive barbie doll accessories and one single dirty room to look a them in that added no game play value instead of new in game content all while pouring money into developing a F2P game for console and a F2P vampire game. . then right when that happened the EVE players got a hold of a letter that said, "hey, maybe we could make money on selling items that gave advantage in game. . ." Then they got pissed because the $180 a year they poured into CCP per account wasn't actually going towards their game and content. . . Progress on content had been stalled and stuff was still broken from years before. . . Their time and investment was not being repaid. . They felt they were being lied to because CCP had promised to "never ever ever" introduce Pay to win into EVE and yet they were kicking the idea around in an internal news letter. . . Then 10% of the player base unsubscribed and people got laid off because CCP still had to pay off the loans they took out to finance World of Darkness & DUST development. Write up from the CSM chair who flew to Rek for the emergency summit: http://themittani.com/content/soss-67-incarna-postmortem-6 original "Greed is Good letter is long since gone but summary of inflamatory bits is below http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435212 Just as CCP had to disentangle itself from Incarna, they need to disentangle themselves from what is quite obviously a broken MMOFPS to try and build a good one, or at least one that does everything they want it to do. So yeah actually, those of us who were around for that do get why DUST players are pissed, even if you don't understand what you are talking about in reference to Incarna or just want to troll. So either quit trolling or get your facts straight. So show me what part of what I said was even close to inaccurate. Also show me how any of that even comes close to what us dust bunnies have been through? You can act like you went through this great injustice, but it is honestly childs play next to what has just happened to dusters and to say otherwise is to lie. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!