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bastille123
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:00:00 -
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just want to know .... i mean your building the same game with more detail / freedom / content, and all that but did the name DUST 514 lost its meaning? (if any) just wanted to know the reason.
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Gaelon Thrace
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
377
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:01:00 -
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EVE Online
EVE: Valkyrie
DUST 514: Legion
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The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies
Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:02:00 -
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I still want to know what DUST514 means. It was supposed to be a big secret and now that Legion is known I want to know what it means.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:03:00 -
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By calling it "EVE: Legion" they can attract more attention to the franchise as a whole.
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Force Seventrum
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:03:00 -
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Its all about this Universe thing. They want to go for EVE: Universe over time. Login in with on name. Not multiple. Etc etc.
Green Light EVE:Legion!
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Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:03:00 -
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Maybe because of the connotations? E.g.:
The broken promises.
The mark of failure.
The stink of death. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:05:00 -
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DUST514 got panned pretty bad. And rejected by fps community. CCP is very well aware of why it couldn't use the DUST514 name. |
Echo 1991
warravens
Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:05:00 -
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People seem ro forget that Dusts name is EVE: Dust 514 |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:08:00 -
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Could be many reasons. As a company, you want people to be familar with your product. Naming it EVE Legion would no doubt capture those who are EVE pilots attention. Plus, the way Dust had trouble, as a company you might want to separate yourself from that identity. To start fresh and new. Dust 514: Legion doesn't give off the same name and power like EVE: Legion. One has been around for years. Its that stability that players can identify with.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Gaelon Thrace
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:10:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:People seem ro forget that Dusts name is EVE: Dust 514
Exactly. All the more reason to change it.
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Alex-P-Keaton Kramer
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:10:00 -
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because they dont want to remind people of the failure that is dust and the outrage it induced, why piggyback off mediocrity when they can piggyback off the niche success they've had in their one successful game
Former MAG player, unfortunate dust victim, out of work, will kill for food.
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bhold'the brngr ofLIKE
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:10:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:I still want to know what DUST514 means. It was supposed to be a big secret and now that Legion is known I want to know what it means.
it means it started on 5/14 and will end on 5/14, it's weird icelandic numerology mumbo jumbo- those numbers are sacred. they represent a cycle. |
Phoenix 85
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:10:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:I still want to know what DUST514 means. It was supposed to be a big secret and now that Legion is known I want to know what it means.
....Dust
5=E
1=A
4=D
Dust 514 cancelled, EvE players be like:
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DUST Fiend
The Wings of Legion
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:11:00 -
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DUST 514 was always kind of an...odd name at best.
EVE: Legion is a strong name that fits into the theme.
Phoenix, quit having such an amazing sig dammit
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:12:00 -
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Branding...
And to distance themselves from this game.
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
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Asha Starwind
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:29:00 -
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Phoenix 85 wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:I still want to know what DUST514 means. It was supposed to be a big secret and now that Legion is known I want to know what it means.
....Dust 5=E 1=A 4=D
EAT
A
DI CK
[center] [/center]
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Phoenix 85
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.05 03:42:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:
Phoenix, quit having such an amazing sig dammit
Which one?
Dust 514 cancelled, EvE players be like http://i.imgur.com/n5NFWvV.gif
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2014.05.05 03:47:00 -
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It is all EVE. It is all part of the same universe and product line. Look at the top left of this page.
Lol, you can't ban me forever CCP!
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
Interregnum.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 03:50:00 -
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bastille123 wrote:just want to know .... i mean your building the same game with more detail / freedom / content, and all that but did the name DUST 514 lost its meaning? (if any) just wanted to know the reason.
there's probably a contract between CCP and Sony that not allow CCP to use "Dust 514" name.
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DUST Fiend
The Wings of Legion
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Posted - 2014.05.05 03:57:00 -
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Phoenix 85 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:
Phoenix, quit having such an amazing sig dammit
Which one?
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
While the Legion logo is cool, it does not induce the lulz of your previous one. BRING IT BACK!!!!!!
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1320
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Posted - 2014.05.05 04:00:00 -
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Cause Legion has nothing to do with Dust and has everything to do with EVE. 
And so it goes.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
748
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Posted - 2014.05.05 04:09:00 -
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Dust- Judeo-Christian, in reference to mortality, 'remember you are dust, and to dust you shall return' lulz cause immortal
(mark) 5;1-4 Talks about a man possesed by the devil (currently dust) that was healed by jesus (dont want to make comparisons to ccp or cpt frenchy, but this is where they fit it) and set free (legion)
also, this is all for the lulz.
Legion is a much more imposing name, a faceless horde ready to pew pew anything is far more intense than light dirt.
And let the Forums continue to BURN.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
8326
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Posted - 2014.05.05 04:09:00 -
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Dust is a reference to a prayer that says "ashes to ashes, dust to dust". Supposedly the reference also originated from an Eve Online novel or Eve Online Chronicle where an Amarrian soldier said "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Now you can't return to dust." Supposedly that soldier said it to a Dust mercenary who became a clone. Amarr society forbids cloning.
Legion is another biblical reference in which Jesus ran into a man in the woods who was mutilating his body and speaking in strange languages. When Jesus asked who he was, the man said "I am Legion for we are many".
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
8326
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Posted - 2014.05.05 04:13:00 -
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Phoenix 85 wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:I still want to know what DUST514 means. It was supposed to be a big secret and now that Legion is known I want to know what it means.
....Dust 5=E 1=A 4=D
/takes off the tinfoil hat and solutes this gentleman
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
748
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Posted - 2014.05.05 04:22:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Dust is a reference to a prayer that says "ashes to ashes, dust to dust". Supposedly the reference also originated from an Eve Online novel or Eve Online Chronicle where an Amarrian soldier said "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Now you can't return to dust." Supposedly that soldier said it to a Dust mercenary who became a clone. Amarr society forbids cloning.
Legion is another biblical reference in which Jesus ran into a man in the woods who was mutilating his body and speaking in strange languages. When Jesus asked who he was, the man said "I am Legion for we are many".
Actually the dust thing in lore at least, comes from a dialogue in templar one, where mack is explaining why he doesn't like 'immortals'
Mack bent down, scooping up a handful of dust.
"This...where we all come from," he said, letting it fall between his fingers. "We become this again someday. Not them. No respect for us. Would kill them all if I could."
And let the Forums continue to BURN.
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Sardonk Eternia
RisingSuns
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.05.05 04:52:00 -
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bastille123 wrote:just want to know .... i mean your building the same game with more detail / freedom / content, and all that but did the name DUST 514 lost its meaning? (if any) just wanted to know the reason.
No offense but the name DUST 514 is stupid, that's why. I was hoping the early rumors about project:legion was just a re-brand of dust to go along with a new vision for it. I'm so sad now. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2014.05.05 05:03:00 -
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Bigger question: Why are there so many people on the forums? There's more fun and complete games out there, waiting to be played.
This community is the nail in Dust 514's coffin, waiting to be hammered in.
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Captain Crutches
Nexus Marines
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Posted - 2014.05.05 05:20:00 -
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Probably because of Sony. CCP has an exclusivity contract with Sony, which is why Dust is PS3 only, so it may be in violation of that contract to make another "Dust" game outside of the PS3.
This could also be part of the reason CCP isn't sure how character transfers might happen. I'm no legal expert, and I certainly don't know the terms of whatever agreement CCP and Sony have about Dust, but Sony probably made it very hard for CCP to do much with the game outside its platform (I would if I were them).
CCP has to be very careful what they do with this stuff - If they make Sony angry, they could face legal action.
Legion is absolutely the right move for the future of Dust. How CCP went about revealing it is the biggest problem.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
8328
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Posted - 2014.05.05 05:26:00 -
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Captain Crutches wrote:Probably because of Sony. CCP has an exclusivity contract with Sony, which is why Dust is PS3 only, so it may be in violation of that contract to make another "Dust" game outside of the PS3.
This could also be part of the reason CCP isn't sure how character transfers might happen. I'm no legal expert, and I certainly don't know the terms of whatever agreement CCP and Sony have about Dust, but Sony probably made it very hard for CCP to do much with the game outside its platform (I would if I were them).
CCP has to be very careful what they do with this stuff - If they make Sony angry, they could face legal action.
No. CCP still had the freedom to develop Dust for other platforms regardless of the contract. CCP even stated last year that there was nothing in the contract preventing them from exploring other platforms. They tried to get Dust on the X360 but later realized that Microsoft was just as greedy as any other company in the world today and that Microsoft also didn't like the fact that they couldn't control CCP's servers. It could've been on the Wii as well but we all know that thing is no where near FPS worthy.
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
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bastille123
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Posted - 2014.05.05 05:37:00 -
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i dont know i felt the title DUST meant something important when i saw a video long ago about mercs having a constant shift in having battles and returning back to dust (it was a video of what name to give the game or how to inspire the game itself i think )
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