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low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1688	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:05:00 - [1] - Quote does it seem to you, right now, that legion is being well received? the legion dev blog has 11 likes. those are dev likes almost certainly. beyond graphics (which means very little to a competitive gamer) what would you say was different about the demo compared to what we have now? eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
First Prophet Minmatar Republic 1754	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:06:00 - [2] - Quote Lawl. I hadn't even noticed. *Users fo
Gaelon Thrace Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 366	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:07:00 - [3] - Quote Dev blogs can receive likes? brb
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1689	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:11:00 - [4] - Quote Gaelon Thrace wrote: Dev blogs can receive likes? brb get ready for number 12. now you're turning this around ccp! eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2457	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:11:00 - [5] - Quote low genius wrote: does it seem to you, right now, that legion is being well received? the legion dev blog has 11 likes. those are dev likes almost certainly. beyond graphics (which means very little to a competitive gamer) what would you say was different about the demo compared to what we have now? more complex maps for sure, that bridge is almost a carbon copy of the bridge map we have now except it had multiple levels and a far more interesting design with multiple levels, this isn't just about graphics it means we can get better more realistic maps, and likely more characters in a match at any given time. of course they only had 5 or 6 guys in the presentation so no way to tell if it can maintain the current 16 people. considering they are pushing the ps3 with their current designs they either resolved some complications holding them back from producing better maps or they are tapping into the pc power.
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1274	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:12:00 - [6] - Quote after looking at the legion demo it just felt like there's a lot of visual clutter in the gameplay. kinda looks like they tried to cram as much stuff as possible into a map to make it look more appealing, sort of like visual diarrhea i liked the way the entering a battle screen looked. the hanger with the mercs walking across was kinda neat. the orbital in the distance was neat as well, but other than the things i've mentioned, doesnt seem like there's anything different in that demo that relates to gameplay. Markdown
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1689	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:14:00 - [7] - Quote Chibi Andy wrote: after looking at the legion demo it just felt like there's a lot of visual clutter in the gameplay. kinda looks like they tried to cram as much stuff as possible into a map to make it look more appealing, sort of like visual diarrhea i liked the way the entering a battle screen looked. the hanger with the mercs walking across was kinda neat. the orbital in the distance was neat as well, but other than the things i've mentioned, doesnt seem like there's anything different in that demo that relates to gameplay. aren't the days of fake effects behind us? isn't that what made MAG and Dust good? knowing that when something happens on the field, someone made it happen. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4281	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:14:00 - [8] - Quote Its on PC, that's pretty much self explanatory. They will have more versatility in their creation. I'm looking forward to Legion Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14697	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:14:00 - [9] - Quote Stronger onset of launh goals would be one thing; had dust 514 had similar launch goals it may not have been as bad of a game but so much time was consumed on getting dust 514 to talk to eve. There will be an advising CPM and a veteranized community to help develop the game. The plans on moving forward are made by veteran designers from fps and mmo backgrounds in both free and pay to play models. The plans so far are likeable by the cpm and the developers are showing an increasing interest in not only working with the CPM but the community; the fanfest event has made some of them bolder now. There are a few other things too but it will be up to CCP Rouge to sell the game; it is after all what he was hired to do; Save dust in some shape form or matter and this was his solution. If not green lit; it will be a scary prospect... while I feel some players may celebrate the event.... I see it being short live after they realize the game is going to die with the platform. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Megan Steel DUST BRASIL S.A Caps and Mercs 65	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:14:00 - [10] - Quote a lot of the "I won't be able to play the game" Will have more to do with the system requirements... lets face it... - The ps3 is a 7 year old system, - It has a complicated software programming thingy - It only has one core for its processing power (any 5 year old computer can smash this processing capability)

low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1689	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:15:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Stronger onset of launh goals would be one thing; had dust 514 had similar launch goals it may not have been as bad of a game but so much time was consumed on getting dust 514 to talk to eve. There will be an advising CPM to help develop the game. The plans on moving forward are made by veteran designers from fps and mmo backgrounds in both free and pay to play models. The plans so far are likeable by the cpm and the developers are showing an increasing interest in not only working with the CPM but the community; the fanfest event has made some of them bolder now. There are a few other things too but it will be up to CCP Rouge to sell the game; it is after all what he was hired to do; Save dust in some shape form or matter and this was his solution. If not green lit; it will be a scary prospect... while I feel some players may celebrate the event.... I see it being short live after they realize the game is going to die with the platform. you said nothing in response to my question. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14697	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:20:00 - [12] - Quote low genius wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Stronger onset of launh goals would be one thing; had dust 514 had similar launch goals it may not have been as bad of a game but so much time was consumed on getting dust 514 to talk to eve. There will be an advising CPM to help develop the game. The plans on moving forward are made by veteran designers from fps and mmo backgrounds in both free and pay to play models. The plans so far are likeable by the cpm and the developers are showing an increasing interest in not only working with the CPM but the community; the fanfest event has made some of them bolder now. There are a few other things too but it will be up to CCP Rouge to sell the game; it is after all what he was hired to do; Save dust in some shape form or matter and this was his solution. If not green lit; it will be a scary prospect... while I feel some players may celebrate the event.... I see it being short live after they realize the game is going to die with the platform. you said nothing in response to my question. okay what we have now is years old about 6 almost while 1.5 player palayble. What legion had was probably a few weeks of existence and a few months on napkins and thinking bubbles., would not suprrise me if the demo whic is days old s also 'not playable' CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Csikszent Mihalyi Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 258	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:22:00 - [13] - Quote low genius wrote: does it seem to you, right now, that legion is being well received? the legion dev blog has 11 likes. those are dev likes almost certainly. beyond graphics (which means very little to a competitive gamer) what would you say was different about the demo compared to what we have now? I know I'm in a minority, but I actually always liked DUST in general. The one thing I can't accept though, is the one thing that is guaranteed to be fixed with the PC version: The low framerate and accompanying shoddy controls. Add better graphics, add a smarter skill tree (I particularly like that it doesn't begin with a racial choice any longer, which is my main source of frustration), add PVE, add a player-driven economy, add a better separation of sandbox and competitive gameplay, and yes... I'd say that's quite different to what we have now, and it sounds damn cool to boot. I won't hold my breath, but I absolutely want to see it happening.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1691	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:26:00 - [14] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: low genius wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Stronger onset of launh goals would be one thing; had dust 514 had similar launch goals it may not have been as bad of a game but so much time was consumed on getting dust 514 to talk to eve. There will be an advising CPM to help develop the game. The plans on moving forward are made by veteran designers from fps and mmo backgrounds in both free and pay to play models. The plans so far are likeable by the cpm and the developers are showing an increasing interest in not only working with the CPM but the community; the fanfest event has made some of them bolder now. There are a few other things too but it will be up to CCP Rouge to sell the game; it is after all what he was hired to do; Save dust in some shape form or matter and this was his solution. If not green lit; it will be a scary prospect... while I feel some players may celebrate the event.... I see it being short live after they realize the game is going to die with the platform. you said nothing in response to my question. okay what we have now is years old about 6 almost while 1.5 player palayble. What legion had was probably a few weeks of existence and a few months on napkins and thinking bubbles., would not suprrise me if the demo whic is days old s also 'not playable' do you think that was a good way to spend 3 keynotes addressed to us? shouldn't they have had something new to show off if they were trying to show something new? you also, again, said nothing regarding what was different about that game, minus a vague graphical increase. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1274	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:27:00 - [15] - Quote low genius wrote: Chibi Andy wrote: after looking at the legion demo it just felt like there's a lot of visual clutter in the gameplay. kinda looks like they tried to cram as much stuff as possible into a map to make it look more appealing, sort of like visual diarrhea i liked the way the entering a battle screen looked. the hanger with the mercs walking across was kinda neat. the orbital in the distance was neat as well, but other than the things i've mentioned, doesnt seem like there's anything different in that demo that relates to gameplay. aren't the days of fake effects behind us? isn't that what made MAG and Dust good? knowing that when something happens on the field, someone made it happen. eh who knows, CCP has the habit of advertising a game that looks good heck even the demo looked good, but then once the actual version comes out its like meh unless they manage to make legion look like that from the get go then maybe its worth looking into, if not then we'll be waiting for a while for them trees to show up Markdown
Gaelon Thrace Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 368	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:28:00 - [16] - Quote low genius wrote: does it seem to you, right now, that legion is being well received? the legion dev blog has 11 likes. those are dev likes almost certainly. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=160410&find=unread
m621 zma Seraphim Initiative.. 114	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:28:00 - [17] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: low genius wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Stronger onset of launh goals would be one thing; had dust 514 had similar launch goals it may not have been as bad of a game but so much time was consumed on getting dust 514 to talk to eve. There will be an advising CPM to help develop the game. The plans on moving forward are made by veteran designers from fps and mmo backgrounds in both free and pay to play models. The plans so far are likeable by the cpm and the developers are showing an increasing interest in not only working with the CPM but the community; the fanfest event has made some of them bolder now. There are a few other things too but it will be up to CCP Rouge to sell the game; it is after all what he was hired to do; Save dust in some shape form or matter and this was his solution. If not green lit; it will be a scary prospect... while I feel some players may celebrate the event.... I see it being short live after they realize the game is going to die with the platform. you said nothing in response to my question. okay what we have now is years old about 6 almost while 1.5 player palayble. What legion had was probably a few weeks of existence and a few months on napkins and thinking bubbles., would not suprrise me if the demo whic is days old s also 'not playable' Eh?
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1692	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:29:00 - [18] - Quote Csikszent Mihalyi wrote: low genius wrote: does it seem to you, right now, that legion is being well received? the legion dev blog has 11 likes. those are dev likes almost certainly. beyond graphics (which means very little to a competitive gamer) what would you say was different about the demo compared to what we have now? I know I'm in a minority, but I actually always liked DUST in general. The one thing I can't accept though, is the one thing that is guaranteed to be fixed with the PC version: The low framerate and accompanying shoddy controls. Add better graphics, add a smarter skill tree (I particularly like that it doesn't begin with a racial choice any longer, which is my main source of frustration), add PVE, add a player-driven economy, add a better separation of sandbox and competitive gameplay, and yes... I'd say that's quite different to what we have now, and it sounds damn cool to boot. I won't hold my breath, but I absolutely want to see it happening. so, what you really want is all the things that they promised us in 2009. you and i want the same things. have you been around long enough to remember their speeches about how the unreal engine will help them enable transition to the next part of dust's existence? eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Government CheeseBurger 751	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:30:00 - [19] - Quote Bamm and Booker got a tree. Then they Burned one. Dust 514 Is dead to me. Urghh But I am still playing it. And look forward to 3 more years of SoonTM on PC.
Xer0 Zexeroth 33	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:31:00 - [20] - Quote I'm just curious whether or not it's going to be connected to EVE more... I'd like for my friend (Who plays EVE) to mine ore, make my corp weapons, and we get a skill bonus that lets us use corp asset weapons one skill level earlier... "Sometimes, when it's quiet, I can still hear the monkeys..." "Oh wait it's just DNS drowning in their pools of ISK."

low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1692	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:32:00 - [21] - Quote Xer0 Zexeroth wrote: I'm just curious whether or not it's going to be connected to EVE more... I'd like for my friend (Who plays EVE) to mine ore, make my corp weapons, and we get a skill bonus that lets us use corp asset weapons one skill level earlier... if you ask them they'll say yes. i promise you that. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Phoenix 85 Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:32:00 - [22] - Quote low genius wrote: does it seem to you, right now, that legion is being well received? the legion dev blog has 11 likes. those are dev likes almost certainly. beyond graphics (which means very little to a competitive gamer) what would you say was different about the demo compared to what we have now? Most of the negative reaction is due ot how CCP handled it. If they had handled the reveal properly, kept us in the loop, and GAF to work on a version for PS4, everyone here would be drooling on it. Dust 514 cancelled, EvE players be like:
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1692	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:35:00 - [23] - Quote Phoenix 85 wrote: low genius wrote: does it seem to you, right now, that legion is being well received? the legion dev blog has 11 likes. those are dev likes almost certainly. beyond graphics (which means very little to a competitive gamer) what would you say was different about the demo compared to what we have now? Most of the negative reaction is due ot how CCP handled it. If they had handled the reveal properly, kept us in the loop, and GAF to work on a version for PS4, everyone here would be drooling on it. if they had a plan, we'd be behind them. they announced that they have no plan. the thing they've been working on for 4 months doesn't even have a green light, and it looks EXACTLY like what we have now. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 14003	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:37:00 - [24] - Quote Of course there's going to be less support on these forums, people are still pissed off running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Legion will likely receive moderate to strong support from a number of EVE players, as well as those of us in DUST who actually want the dream to be realized, and who know that moving to PC is the fastest, most optimal way for a quality PS4 version to be released. Green light this **** Hilmar, GO GO GO
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14699	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:37:00 - [25] - Quote low genius wrote: do you think that was a good way to spend 3 keynotes addressed to us? shouldn't they have had something new to show off if they were trying to show something new? you also, again, said nothing regarding what was different about that game, minus a vague graphical increase. First one could have done FAR better... The three presentded are better than nothign at all I say. I would have loved to see Remnant there while not presenting at least being able to poke his brain on how he balances things. and as you noted there is nothing 'new' to show off other than the new 'quaters' which was likely a dummy mockup to give you an idea how'd it look since it was not functional; I mean that is how new all of legion is; I never seen it in real motion before. I never seen the total breakdown on how graphics fedility is; I never seen any of the menues in action just slides of how it would look. It is litterally a project and nowhere near being a game yet. The demo had nothing other than map changes and better animation and graphics; new modes; new means; new tools; just about everything would have been shown if it existed... CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1699	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:54:00 - [26] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: low genius wrote: do you think that was a good way to spend 3 keynotes addressed to us? shouldn't they have had something new to show off if they were trying to show something new? you also, again, said nothing regarding what was different about that game, minus a vague graphical increase. First one could have done FAR better... The three presentded are better than nothign at all I say. I would have loved to see Remnant there while not presenting at least being able to poke his brain on how he balances things. and as you noted there is nothing 'new' to show off other than the new 'quaters' which was likely a dummy mockup to give you an idea how'd it look since it was not functional; I mean that is how new all of legion is; I never seen it in real motion before. I never seen the total breakdown on how graphics fedility is; I never seen any of the menues in action just slides of how it would look. It is litterally a project and nowhere near being a game yet. The demo had nothing other than map changes and better animation and graphics; new modes; new means; new tools; just about everything would have been shown if it existed... forgive me if a 'dummy mockup' wasn't what i was looking for concerning dust 514. at FANFEST. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 729	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:56:00 - [27] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Stronger onset of launh goals would be one thing; had dust 514 had similar launch goals it may not have been as bad of a game but so much time was consumed on getting dust 514 to talk to eve. There will be an advising CPM and a veteranized community to help develop the game. The plans on moving forward are made by veteran designers from fps and mmo backgrounds in both free and pay to play models. The plans so far are likeable by the cpm and the developers are showing an increasing interest in not only working with the CPM but the community; the fanfest event has made some of them bolder now. There are a few other things too but it will be up to CCP Rouge to sell the game; it is after all what he was hired to do; Save dust in some shape form or matter and this was his solution. If not green lit; it will be a scary prospect... while I feel some players may celebrate the event.... I see it being short live after they realize the game is going to die with the platform. Oh great, they will have more dipshits like you that will suck their cocks at the drop of a hat ensure that the free trip to Iceland is had. Can't wait...eye roll While you're at it CCP, suck the middle of my dick!
DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 14007	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:58:00 - [28] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: low genius wrote: do you think that was a good way to spend 3 keynotes addressed to us? shouldn't they have had something new to show off if they were trying to show something new? you also, again, said nothing regarding what was different about that game, minus a vague graphical increase. First one could have done FAR better... The three presentded are better than nothign at all I say. I would have loved to see Remnant there while not presenting at least being able to poke his brain on how he balances things. and as you noted there is nothing 'new' to show off other than the new 'quaters' which was likely a dummy mockup to give you an idea how'd it look since it was not functional; I mean that is how new all of legion is; I never seen it in real motion before. I never seen the total breakdown on how graphics fedility is; I never seen any of the menues in action just slides of how it would look. It is litterally a project and nowhere near being a game yet. The demo had nothing other than map changes and better animation and graphics; new modes; new means; new tools; just about everything would have been shown if it existed... All I know is that if Legion gets the Red Light, they may as well just pack up the DUST IP and call it a day. I suppose some players will enjoy playing this game that can't ever become what was originally pitched to us, but what would be the point? Why continue to be little more than a mediocre lobby shooter when clearly, it was meant for, and CAN attain, greater things? All these people screaming for a PS4 version as if porting this version to PS4 somehow makes it what we all wanted. PC is where that dream has the faintest hope of becoming a reality, and from there, moving to PS4. GREEN LIGHT GO GO GO
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 173	Posted - 2014.05.05 15:09:00 - [29] - Quote They have already set fire to their ship... Problem is they are still miles out from shore. The only option they have now is to row like crazy. If they stop (I.e no-go), mercs in New Eden will be swimming with the fishes. Sorry for the metaphor... But the only way forward now is for Legion to get the green light ASAP.
Isaa Quade Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 452	Posted - 2014.05.05 15:12:00 - [30] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The plans so far are likeable by the cpm and the developers are showing an increasing interest in not only working with the CPM but the community; the fanfest event has made some of them bolder now. All I see are PC players being snobbish and unbearable. What support are you talking about? My reaction to Legion

Roy Xkillerz Red Star. EoN. 36	Posted - 2014.05.05 15:13:00 - [31] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=160410&find=unread Show you support or not support for legion in this thread. Now there are 4 pages off threads while it can all by into 1.
Isaa Quade Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 452	Posted - 2014.05.05 15:16:00 - [32] - Quote Roy Xkillerz wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=160410&find=unread Show you support or not support for legion in this thread. Now there are 4 pages off threads while it can all by into 1. No. Our anger over this bullshit is not going to tidily be swept into one thread. What else do you need to forum space to discuss? Vehicle balances? My reaction to Legion
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1704	Posted - 2014.05.05 15:16:00 - [33] - Quote Chibi Andy wrote: after looking at the legion demo it just felt like there's a lot of visual clutter in the gameplay. kinda looks like they tried to cram as much stuff as possible into a map to make it look more appealing, sort of like visual diarrhea i liked the way the entering a battle screen looked. the hanger with the mercs walking across was kinda neat. the orbital in the distance was neat as well, but other than the things i've mentioned, doesnt seem like there's anything different in that demo that relates to gameplay. Considering that Dust will be used as a base for Legion and the limited development time they've had so far with Legion, you shouldn't be surprised that it looks just like Dust except for some graphical improvements. For now, it does seem like Legion has the capability to achieve the Dust vision. You can't give it a thumbs down just yet. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1745	Posted - 2014.05.05 16:20:00 - [34] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Chibi Andy wrote: after looking at the legion demo it just felt like there's a lot of visual clutter in the gameplay. kinda looks like they tried to cram as much stuff as possible into a map to make it look more appealing, sort of like visual diarrhea i liked the way the entering a battle screen looked. the hanger with the mercs walking across was kinda neat. the orbital in the distance was neat as well, but other than the things i've mentioned, doesnt seem like there's anything different in that demo that relates to gameplay. Considering that Dust will be used as a base for Legion and the limited development time they've had so far with Legion, you shouldn't be surprised that it looks just like Dust except for some graphical improvements. For now, it does seem like Legion has the capability to achieve the Dust vision. You can't give it a thumbs down just yet. i hear call of duty 2 really realized all those visions that call of duty one had. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1753	Posted - 2014.05.05 23:12:00 - [35] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: low genius wrote: do you think that was a good way to spend 3 keynotes addressed to us? shouldn't they have had something new to show off if they were trying to show something new? you also, again, said nothing regarding what was different about that game, minus a vague graphical increase. First one could have done FAR better... The three presentded are better than nothign at all I say. I would have loved to see Remnant there while not presenting at least being able to poke his brain on how he balances things. and as you noted there is nothing 'new' to show off other than the new 'quaters' which was likely a dummy mockup to give you an idea how'd it look since it was not functional; I mean that is how new all of legion is; I never seen it in real motion before. I never seen the total breakdown on how graphics fedility is; I never seen any of the menues in action just slides of how it would look. It is litterally a project and nowhere near being a game yet. The demo had nothing other than map changes and better animation and graphics; new modes; new means; new tools; just about everything would have been shown if it existed... and, do you believe that the demo we saw is worth waiting 2 years for another title? i think call of duty or battlefield will have a title ready for us in like 3 months. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.


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