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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.04 09:27:00 -
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We know CCP, Once they finished the PC version they will cancel PS4 version OR get it out 3 years later because they will be unable to Port it on PS4. At the contrary if they start dev on PS4 and PC to make Cross-Plateform till the begining, then it's possible.
On the other hand, PS3 owners are way more likely to have PS4 than a PC gamer. We (Dust) were the "beta" for Project Legion, at least we could have the possibility to play it on OUR plateform.
We don't ask a PS4 exclusive, we ask a PS4 / PC Cross-Plateform, released AT THE SAME TIME, Develloped AT THE SAME TIME
But right know they had started develloping on PC, and they said would "maybe" port it on PS4 once the game is finished and ready to release on PC, DAMN HELL NO. We all know this "maybe" and the "Soon Tm", if they start working like that we will NEVER have it on PS4. Once PC Version is over, they will say "F.u.c.k you PS4". If they start Dev the 2 plateform at the same time and on a Cross-plateform vision, THEN it will be possible, not one after the other.
Do you agree ? I'm sure, you, Pc players know what "us" the console players feels. We simply don't want to play on PC, that's simple. On the other hands, if it was Ps4 exclusive, we know it would be hard for you.
So why not Dev on the TWO plateform, AT THE SAME TIME ? PS4 is friendly to F2P (PS Online is not required, No hacks etcetc. But harder to Dev, i think.) PC is easier to dev (But full of hacks, tell me ONE F2P who don't have lot of Hacks.)
Would be better for everyone isn't ? |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.05.04 09:33:00 -
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free bump, same intent
It was fun till it lasted...
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douch169
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.05.04 09:34:00 -
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bump o7 |
Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2014.05.04 09:34:00 -
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If they can port Dust 514's engine from the PS3 to the PC, they can port EVE: Legion from the PC to the PS4.
Though I do admit that they could save a lot of face by announcing it will be available on the PS4 as well...
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douch169
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.05.04 09:38:00 -
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They would also double there marking output. They would make double the profit to properly fund produce and develop an awesome game.Also have 2 systems 2 test there game double the results. Also I would love to smash some of the pc gamers lol. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.04 09:41:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:If they can port Dust 514's engine from the PS3 to the PC, they can port EVE: Legion from the PC to the PS4.
Though I do admit that they could save a lot of face by announcing it will be available on the PS4 as well...
They didn't port from PS3 to PC. It's Unreal 3, a PC Engine, (For Dust 514)
Same for Legion they said it's still Unreal (Carbon would have been better, anyway...) Port from console to a Pc is ALWAYS easier than the contrary. Starting Dev on PC would make them unable to port it on PS4, or they will simply forgot to make it "Soon Tm".
Admit starting dev the 2 plateform at the same time would be better than one after the other ? "Port" is always bad for one side, starting dev the 2 at the same time would be way better.
(PS4 => PC ?) : NO. (PC => PS4 ?) : NO.
PC=> YES. PS4 =>
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.04 09:43:00 -
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douch169 wrote:They would also double there marketing output. They would make double the profit to properly fund produce and develop an awesome game. Also have 2 systems 2 test there game double the results. But all in all I would love to smash some of the pc gamers in new eden
Yes, double marketing output, double community, double profit, double results. Twice more awesome Market.
Of course the Develloppement price would be higher, but us (Console players) Paid it with Dust 514, we deserve to have a part of this money used for us. |
Atlacatl Jaguar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.05.04 09:43:00 -
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Ye and the architecture of the ps4 makes it easy for PC development. |
Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2014.05.04 09:45:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:They didn't port from PS3 to PC. It's Unreal 3, a PC Engine, (For Dust 514) Well, whatever. They took a PS3 game and created a PC game that looks and feels almost exactly like the PS3 game, what am I supposed to think? If they can do that, they should be able to do the opposite considering how similar the PS4 is to PCs in terms of architecture.
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deezy dabest
Warpoint Sharx
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Posted - 2014.05.04 09:47:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:They didn't port from PS3 to PC. It's Unreal 3, a PC Engine, (For Dust 514) Well, whatever. They took a PS3 game and created a PC game that looks and feels almost exactly like the PS3 game, what am I supposed to think? If they can do that, they should be able to do the opposite considering how similar the PS4 is to PCs in terms of architecture.
I kind of think this is why they went with UE4 so it can easily be ported later.
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.04 09:51:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:They didn't port from PS3 to PC. It's Unreal 3, a PC Engine, (For Dust 514) Well, whatever. They took a PS3 game and created a PC game that looks and feels almost exactly like the PS3 game, what am I supposed to think? If they can do that, they should be able to do the opposite considering how similar the PS4 is to PCs in terms of architecture.
So it would not matter for you if we start develloping on PS4, release it and put a "Soon Tm" for PC players ?
Once they released or finished one of the two version, they will be too busy Fixing the game to port it on an another plateform. We must have simultaneous release.
"Ported later" We all know what it means, Never, or the PS4 version will be **** full of bugs because of a lazy quick port.
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2014.05.04 09:59:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:So it would not matter for you if we start develloping on PS4, release it and put a "Soon Tm" for PC players ? Irrelevant. My point was that CCP has the capability to port games to and from consoles.
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.04 10:02:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:So it would not matter for you if we start develloping on PS4, release it and put a "Soon Tm" for PC players ? Irrelevant. My point was that CCP has the capability to port games to and from consoles.
Ah, ok, sorry then didn't understand it well.
(I've understand, you wanted to dev on PC and then Port on pS4 "later" we all know what it means. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:01:00 -
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Bump, + The next who likes me will be the 666 Likes. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:04:00 -
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Quote:We don't ask a PS4 exclusive, we ask a PS4 / PC Cross-Plateform, released AT THE SAME TIME, Develloped AT THE SAME TIME
And throw away the very reason they moved to PC in the first place? Developing it on PS4 and on PC at the same time would give us the same problem Dust always had:
No testservers, bugged patches and small patches because the patchcycle would need to be shorter so Sony can test the patches.
The PS4 would hold back development especially during this early stage.
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IVIaster LUKE
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:06:00 -
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Meh.
But getting a PC means I become one of "Them". I can't do it.
I actually like going outside and touching a "Boob"
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Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:07:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Quote:We don't ask a PS4 exclusive, we ask a PS4 / PC Cross-Plateform, released AT THE SAME TIME, Develloped AT THE SAME TIME And throw away the very reason they moved to PC in the first place? Developing it on PS4 and on PC at the same time would give us the same problem Dust always had: No testservers, bugged patches and small patches because the patchcycle would need to be shorter so Sony can test the patches. The PS4 would hold back development especially during this early stage. I have to agree my man. I was happy to see Dust514 on PS3 but the fact is that this game is meant for PC which offers much more flexibility and freedom for the developers to truly reach that vision without having to worry about dependant on a huge corporation and generational leaps of consoles. |
Xaerael Walkeri
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:09:00 -
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Plateforms are pretty important. I prefer round with a standard bowl edge myself, and I understand people like the trendy square plateform. I'm having a real difficulty imagining a cross shaped plateform though... Surely if you served spaghetti on it, it would all fall off? |
Hecarim Van Hohen
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:09:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote: I was happy to see Dust514 on PS3 but the fact is that this game is meant for PC which offers much more flexibility and freedom for the developers to truly reach that vision without having to worry about dependant on a huge corporation and generational leaps of consoles. QFT
"Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads."
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Xaerael Walkeri
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:16:00 -
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If people didn't get the humour, my previous post was a joke with two meanings, written as a literal stance on how bad a cross shaped plate would be, and how bad cross platforming Legion would be, and how some folks like PCs (round plates), and other like consoles (trendy square plates).
I'm pretty proud of it myself.
This post may be a humorous post about the way people can't see the trees because there's a forest in the way. |
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Spark Kincade
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:29:00 -
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As long as Sony still has crappy patch certification processes, no thank you. Planetside 2 won't even be crossplay due to Sony's cert process, and that's a goddamn Sony game. |
DR FEB
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:33:00 -
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I want the darn diddly doo ps4 cross platform rather than just pc
-I'm so awesome,when I walk in a pub, I raise the bar 10 million per 10
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Xaerael Walkeri
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:52:00 -
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I'm going to be blunt now.
Sony is crap. Sony fanboys are tunnel vision suffering idiots. Console heyday is over.
FPS is returning to it's home. PC. Where all the greatest FPSes came from. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.04 13:03:00 -
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If they announce a PS4 version I'll stay.
For now I'm just AFK capping until we get some actual information.
Sure, why the f*ck not?
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.04 13:08:00 -
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Xaerael Walkeri wrote:I'm going to be blunt now.
Sony is crap. Sony fanboys are tunnel vision suffering idiots. Console heyday is over.
FPS is returning to it's home. PC. Where all the greatest FPSes came from.
Exactly the biggest reason why i will never play Legion on PC : Pc faggots. The only Online game i play is League of Legends and there is plenty of guys like him, stupid kids.
Pc community it is the ONLY THINGS you can show to us ? Stupid faggots "Master Race" ? Seriously, even real Pc Gamer should be ashamed of this kind of person. Pc Community show me there's something else than THAT. |
meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.05.04 13:13:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:
Would be better for everyone isn't ?
How do you imagine a controller player to persist against a M/KB? I don't see a chance here.
R.I.P. Dust514 02 May 2014
EVE United
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Xaerael Walkeri
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.04 13:17:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Xaerael Walkeri wrote:I'm going to be blunt now.
Sony is crap. Sony fanboys are tunnel vision suffering idiots. Console heyday is over.
FPS is returning to it's home. PC. Where all the greatest FPSes came from. Exactly the biggest reason why i will never play Legion on PC : Pc faggots. The only Online game i play is League of Legends and there is plenty of guys like him, stupid kids. Pc community it is the ONLY THINGS you can show to us ? Stupid faggots "Master Race" ? Seriously, even real Pc Gamer should be ashamed of this kind of person. Pc Community show me there's something else than THAT on PC.
Protip: question marks are like full stops. You don't put a space before them.
Eg: Are you stupid?
Not: Are you stupid ?
This is why PC users are better than console users. We can spell and use grammar and punctuation correctly. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.04 14:20:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:
Would be better for everyone isn't ?
How do you imagine a controller player to persist against a M/KB? I don't see a chance here.
Dust 514 allows Mouse + keyboard, there's plenty of them actually. And how strong is the aim assist with controller, well would be balanced. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.05.04 17:54:00 -
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bump
It was fun till it lasted...
PSN: ogamega
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Major Lee High
Battle Response Organizations
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Posted - 2014.05.04 18:02:00 -
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There will not be enough players to have it on 2 systems. PS4 or its dead.
People need to remember it says right at the top of the page they may not even make Legion, it is still just an IDEA. |
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