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TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 539	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:59:00 - [1] - Quote if legion is released what do you think is going to be the biggest issues? we've never been wrong before. 1. aimbots 2. aimbots 3. wallhacks 4. devs that aren't worth a FI_ICK Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
DozersMouse XIII Inner.Hell 702	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:00:00 - [2] - Quote sounds right n+¼n+»n+¼n+Ñn+ºn+¬n+»n+« ! you have been sold a dream
Leanna Boghin B.O.D.A.S 80	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:06:00 - [3] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: if legion is released what do you think is going to be the biggest issues? we've never been wrong before. 1. aimbots 2. aimbots 3. wallhacks 4. devs that aren't worth a FI_ICK you forgot Mods lol. They will mod their equipment to do very strange things like flying LAVs and tanks that can shoot through walls. Lol Good luck to those that actually play that game i hope you love raging. I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 13915	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:09:00 - [4] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: if legion is released what do you think is going to be the biggest issues? we've never been wrong before. 1. aimbots 2. aimbots 3. wallhacks 4. devs that aren't worth a FI_ICK you forgot Mods lol. They will mod their equipment to do very strange things like flying LAVs and tanks that can shoot through walls. Lol Good luck to those that actually play that game i hope you love raging. I survived two straight years of Halo 2 being modded to the point of insanity, I will survive Legion mods, should they come to light. I'm going to risk being too optimistic here, and I would like to think that the first big problem is that the game will actually be too open, that it won't have enough players to make it feel full, so it will feel kind of lonely at first. So long as there are drones to kill, and corps to run / join, I think it will be fine. LONG LIVE LEGION!
knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1888	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:12:00 - [5] - Quote aww man i can take a crack at that. they will promise the moon and all the stars, they will deliver: a lobby shooter with some odd gimmicks awkwardly shoehorned in. the beta product will have almost nothing in it contentwise voice comms will break with every update balance will be nonexistant the release version will be a polished version of the beta still missing half it's content continued attempts at balance will cause wild swings in the balance of power and role of different classes players will demand respecs because what they see isn't what they got updates will start removing as much as they add the players start to lose hope that the game will ever be as advertised it's now been 2 years since closed beta and content is still missing at fanfest CCP announces EvE centurion for the latest microsoft console EvE centurion will be everything Legion should have been EvE legion is left to hang in limbo for eternity "welp, I think the keynote can be considered a PR disaster at this point." Ko6 scout,
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14670	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:13:00 - [6] - Quote Lag hit detection collision damage draw distance CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8285	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:14:00 - [7] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: if legion is released what do you think is going to be the biggest issues? we've never been wrong before. 1. aimbots 2. aimbots 3. wallhacks 4. devs that aren't worth a FI_ICK You make it seem as if consoles don't have this problem but that's not the case. Consoles and PCs have the same primary issues. Just remember that consoles are actually just downsized versions of the PC. http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 540	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:15:00 - [8] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: if legion is released what do you think is going to be the biggest issues? we've never been wrong before. 1. aimbots 2. aimbots 3. wallhacks 4. devs that aren't worth a FI_ICK you forgot Mods lol. They will mod their equipment to do very strange things like flying LAVs and tanks that can shoot through walls. Lol Good luck to those that actually play that game i hope you love raging. I survived two straight years of Halo 2 being modded to the point of insanity, I will survive Legion mods, should they come to light. I'm going to risk being too optimistic here, and I would like to think that the first big problem is that the game will actually be too open, that it won't have enough players to make it feel full, so it will feel kind of lonely at first. So long as there are drones to kill, and corps to run / join, I think it will be fine. but in halo you didn't lose anything. the modding cod4 days were awesome because when you died only your KDR got hurt. which no one really cared about. could you imagine losing a proto suit/tank or even a planet to a group of people who paid for aimbots? the only people could stand up to them would be getting an aimbot yourself. kinda defeats the purpose of a FPS Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 540	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:17:00 - [9] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: if legion is released what do you think is going to be the biggest issues? we've never been wrong before. 1. aimbots 2. aimbots 3. wallhacks 4. devs that aren't worth a FI_ICK You make it seem as if consoles don't have this problem but that's not the case. Consoles and PCs have the same primary issues. Just remember that consoles are actually just downsized versions of the PC. the only thing i've seen are lag switches in dust. Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
z z top Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:18:00 - [10] - Quote 1 hit detection 2 frame rate 3 gun and movement mechanics 4 weapons balance 5 low player count 6 cheating you know everything you expect from a top notch developer like ccp

xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2671	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:19:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Lag hit detection collision damage draw distance ps4 > *I'm a gamer, not your Guinea Pig*
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8286	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:24:00 - [12] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: but in halo you didn't lose anything. the modding cod4 days were awesome because when you died only your KDR got hurt. which no one really cared about. could you imagine losing a proto suit/tank or even a planet to a group of people who paid for aimbots? the only people could stand up to them would be getting an aimbot yourself. kinda defeats the purpose of a FPS Eve Online players have it worse. To this day, we Eve players have to deal with certain players within our game that use Macro Bots that marginalize our own player-driven efforts. Mining Bots Mission Bots Market Bots and Hauler Bots What these kind of macro bots do is enable a player to tell the computer to do everything for him. Some access the memory of the computer to manipulate data while other literally read the image on your monitor to operate your ship. This effectively enables you to do your dishes, go take a shower, mow the lawn, and even leave your house for the rest of the day while the computer is managing your ship for you. But keep in mind that this is only possible because Eve Online uses a point-to-point system which is completely different from a FPS game. You click on a point in space and the ship moves over there. No joystick needed. http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8286	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:25:00 - [13] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: if legion is released what do you think is going to be the biggest issues? we've never been wrong before. 1. aimbots 2. aimbots 3. wallhacks 4. devs that aren't worth a FI_ICK You make it seem as if consoles don't have this problem but that's not the case. Consoles and PCs have the same primary issues. Just remember that consoles are actually just downsized versions of the PC. the only thing i've seen are lag switches in dust. I'm talking about all games in general. Call of Duty suffered serious aim bot issues even just 5 hours after release. http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2671	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:26:00 - [14] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: if legion is released what do you think is going to be the biggest issues? we've never been wrong before. 1. aimbots 2. aimbots 3. wallhacks 4. devs that aren't worth a FI_ICK You make it seem as if consoles don't have this problem but that's not the case. Consoles and PCs have the same primary issues. Just remember that consoles are actually just downsized versions of the PC. You actually cannot use aimbots and wall hacks on ps3. Oh, well, you could, but it seriously take so much effort that it's not worth trying. > *I'm a gamer, not your Guinea Pig*
Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 604	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:26:00 - [15] - Quote Netcode. Netcode will be **** incarnate. And the skill tree wouldnt work properly. E .· ` ' / ·. F Tear bucket filling quickly
Major Lee High Battle Response Organizations 80	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:27:00 - [16] - Quote Frames Per Second Not to mention like every other problem that switching FPS/most games to consoles fixed.
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 540	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:27:00 - [17] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: but in halo you didn't lose anything. the modding cod4 days were awesome because when you died only your KDR got hurt. which no one really cared about. could you imagine losing a proto suit/tank or even a planet to a group of people who paid for aimbots? the only people could stand up to them would be getting an aimbot yourself. kinda defeats the purpose of a FPS Eve Online players have it worse. To this day, we Eve players have to deal with certain players within our game that use Macro Bots that marginalize our own player-driven efforts. Mining Bots Mission Bots Market Bots and Hauler Bots What these kind of macro bots do is enable a player to tell the computer to do everything for him. Some access the memory of the computer to manipulate data while other literally read the image on your monitor to operate your ship. This effectively enables you to do your dishes, go take a shower, mow the lawn, and even leave your house for the rest of the day while the computer is managing your ship for you. But keep in mind that this is only possible because Eve Online uses a point-to-point system which is completely different from a FPS game. You click on a point in space and the ship moves over there. No joystick needed. my old ceo used to do that. he said as long as he stayed in high sec he could leave his eve client all day without touching it. hes not taking stuff from anybody but he is abusing. we had him reported and he is still banned. 4 year old char banned. Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 13921	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:30:00 - [18] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: if legion is released what do you think is going to be the biggest issues? we've never been wrong before. 1. aimbots 2. aimbots 3. wallhacks 4. devs that aren't worth a FI_ICK you forgot Mods lol. They will mod their equipment to do very strange things like flying LAVs and tanks that can shoot through walls. Lol Good luck to those that actually play that game i hope you love raging. I survived two straight years of Halo 2 being modded to the point of insanity, I will survive Legion mods, should they come to light. I'm going to risk being too optimistic here, and I would like to think that the first big problem is that the game will actually be too open, that it won't have enough players to make it feel full, so it will feel kind of lonely at first. So long as there are drones to kill, and corps to run / join, I think it will be fine. but in halo you didn't lose anything. the modding cod4 days were awesome because when you died only your KDR got hurt. which no one really cared about. could you imagine losing a proto suit/tank or even a planet to a group of people who paid for aimbots? the only people could stand up to them would be getting an aimbot yourself. kinda defeats the purpose of a FPS I've never played a PC FPS, is every single one of them riddled with these? If the game is free, I will be there, and worst case scenario, I simply move on to another game. I was already planning to quit DUST anyways, so it's a win win for me. LONG LIVE LEGION!
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2671	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:31:00 - [19] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: if legion is released what do you think is going to be the biggest issues? we've never been wrong before. 1. aimbots 2. aimbots 3. wallhacks 4. devs that aren't worth a FI_ICK You make it seem as if consoles don't have this problem but that's not the case. Consoles and PCs have the same primary issues. Just remember that consoles are actually just downsized versions of the PC. the only thing i've seen are lag switches in dust. I'm talking about all games in general. Call of Duty suffered serious aim bot issues even just 5 hours after release. Aimbots on CoD? Most of the time it's just good old lag. Told you, to use an aimbot on ps3 you have to downgrade your firmware, install an home-brew manager, find out the game's code, develop an hack, figure out how to make the hack work with the game (considering you cannot launch two applications on ps3/4) etc. Definitely not worth. On PC you may use some workarounds even if you have poor programming skills. > *I'm a gamer, not your Guinea Pig*
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 1194	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:31:00 - [20] - Quote Hacks and exploits aren't as big of a problem as you might think. If you get caught using them, you can and will lose your characters and assets. Your skills, ISK and items are more beneficial to you than an aimbot or wallhack, and they won't get you banned. So why use hacks? What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage is more lethal.

TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 543	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:32:00 - [21] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: if legion is released what do you think is going to be the biggest issues? we've never been wrong before. 1. aimbots 2. aimbots 3. wallhacks 4. devs that aren't worth a FI_ICK you forgot Mods lol. They will mod their equipment to do very strange things like flying LAVs and tanks that can shoot through walls. Lol Good luck to those that actually play that game i hope you love raging. I survived two straight years of Halo 2 being modded to the point of insanity, I will survive Legion mods, should they come to light. I'm going to risk being too optimistic here, and I would like to think that the first big problem is that the game will actually be too open, that it won't have enough players to make it feel full, so it will feel kind of lonely at first. So long as there are drones to kill, and corps to run / join, I think it will be fine. but in halo you didn't lose anything. the modding cod4 days were awesome because when you died only your KDR got hurt. which no one really cared about. could you imagine losing a proto suit/tank or even a planet to a group of people who paid for aimbots? the only people could stand up to them would be getting an aimbot yourself. kinda defeats the purpose of a FPS I've never played a PC FPS, is every single one of them riddled with these? If the game is free, I will be there, and worst case scenario, I simply move on to another game. I was already planning to quit DUST anyways, so it's a win win for me. i just got my gaming pc and every shooter i have tried has about 3 aimbotters in every lobby. thats why i stick to strategy games. starcraft 2, LOL. been trying eve i kinda liked it but once my trial is up thats it. Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 13921	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:35:00 - [22] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: i just got my gaming pc and every shooter i have tried has about 3 aimbotters in every lobby. thats why i stick to strategy games. starcraft 2, LOL. been trying eve i kinda liked it but once my trial is up thats it. <3 Starcraft 2, that is THE single most competitive game I've ever had the pleasure of playing. My hands have nerve damage though, and my naga is busted (literally cannot play SC2 without it) so I set the game down before Heart of the Swarm was released. I really wasn't impressed with that expansion either. I made it to low Diamond and that's where I hit my plateau. LONG LIVE LEGION!
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 543	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:35:00 - [23] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Hacks and exploits aren't as big of a problem as you might think. If you get caught using them, you can and will lose your characters and assets. Your skills, ISK and items are more beneficial to you than an aimbot or wallhack, and they won't get you banned. So why use hacks? because a lot of people dont have the reaction time or precision to play a FPS competitively. to them they suck at the game anyway so they don't really care if they get banned. Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 543	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:38:00 - [24] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: i just got my gaming pc and every shooter i have tried has about 3 aimbotters in every lobby. thats why i stick to strategy games. starcraft 2, LOL. been trying eve i kinda liked it but once my trial is up thats it. <3 Starcraft 2, that is THE single most competitive game I've ever had the pleasure of playing. My hands have nerve damage though, and my naga is busted (literally cannot play SC2 without it) so I set the game down before Heart of the Swarm was released. I really wasn't impressed with that expansion either. I made it to low Diamond and that's where I hit my plateau. **** i didn't know how much people took that game seriously until i saw that south korea documentary. been having fun, still gotta learn all the shortcuts on the keyboard. love talking strategy with my opponents. Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2671	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:40:00 - [25] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Hacks and exploits aren't as big of a problem as you might think. If you get caught using them, you can and will lose your characters and assets. Your skills, ISK and items are more beneficial to you than an aimbot or wallhack, and they won't get you banned. So why use hacks? Because, who can really tell the difference between an aimbot and regular skill shots / lucky shots? > *I'm a gamer, not your Guinea Pig*
DUST Fiend The Wings of Legion 13921	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:41:00 - [26] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: i just got my gaming pc and every shooter i have tried has about 3 aimbotters in every lobby. thats why i stick to strategy games. starcraft 2, LOL. been trying eve i kinda liked it but once my trial is up thats it. <3 Starcraft 2, that is THE single most competitive game I've ever had the pleasure of playing. My hands have nerve damage though, and my naga is busted (literally cannot play SC2 without it) so I set the game down before Heart of the Swarm was released. I really wasn't impressed with that expansion either. I made it to low Diamond and that's where I hit my plateau. ** i didn't know how much people took that game seriously until i saw that south korea documentary. been having fun, still gotta learn all the shortcuts on the keyboard. love talking strategy with my opponents. I watched competitive SC2 religiously. Those kids....are....INSANE. It's obnoxious how talented they are, and how supportive their society is of pro gaming. It amazed me to the point where I was this close to hopping on a plane and moving there, I you not >_< I don't have that level of talent, nor the physical ability, to keep up with them though, so I'm happy just playing casually lol. Maybe when I get my cybernetic hands and memory augmentations, we'll talk ;) I miss refining build orders and my strategy, I got DAMN good at sending my first zealot and stalker to harass players while keeping up with my macro, it's amazing how much you can accomplish so early with so little. LONG LIVE LEGION!**
TrueXer0z DUST University Ivy League 514	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:42:00 - [27] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: if legion is released what do you think is going to be the biggest issues? we've never been wrong before. 1. aimbots 2. aimbots 3. wallhacks 4. devs that aren't worth a FI_ICK you forgot Mods lol. They will mod their equipment to do very strange things like flying LAVs and tanks that can shoot through walls. Lol Good luck to those that actually play that game i hope you love raging. I survived two straight years of Halo 2 being modded to the point of insanity, I will survive Legion mods, should they come to light. I'm going to risk being too optimistic here, and I would like to think that the first big problem is that the game will actually be too open, that it won't have enough players to make it feel full, so it will feel kind of lonely at first. So long as there are drones to kill, and corps to run / join, I think it will be fine. I agree. Mods and hacks are something I am sure will exist, but I really think that if CCP makes the commitment to Legion then we might be surprised. I can't stress enough though that communication with the community and proper product tsting before release are vital. Radical changes and nerf/buff swings need to be a thing of the past. My time in Dust is now only going to be focused on developing a strong foundation of programs surrounding the fundamentals of the game for Legion University. (Or whatever the final name will be.) With Open world PvE and PvP there will be a lot more that can be done with events and full on wars. Are you prepared for a real game that belongs as a part of the Eve Universe? Director, Dust University R.I.P. Dust 514
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8289	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:45:00 - [28] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: if legion is released what do you think is going to be the biggest issues? we've never been wrong before. 1. aimbots 2. aimbots 3. wallhacks 4. devs that aren't worth a FI_ICK You make it seem as if consoles don't have this problem but that's not the case. Consoles and PCs have the same primary issues. Just remember that consoles are actually just downsized versions of the PC. You actually cannot use aimbots and wall hacks on ps3. Oh, well, you could, but it seriously take so much effort that it's not worth trying. That's why there is a market for hacked consoles. http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 545	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:45:00 - [29] - Quote i like watching the older players play against the younger ones. it always looks like the younger ones are going to win then the older ones pull something that looks stupid but ends up being enough to break their opponents strategy Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 545	Posted - 2014.05.04 02:46:00 - [30] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: if legion is released what do you think is going to be the biggest issues? we've never been wrong before. 1. aimbots 2. aimbots 3. wallhacks 4. devs that aren't worth a FI_ICK You make it seem as if consoles don't have this problem but that's not the case. Consoles and PCs have the same primary issues. Just remember that consoles are actually just downsized versions of the PC. You actually cannot use aimbots and wall hacks on ps3. Oh, well, you could, but it seriously take so much effort that it's not worth trying. That's why there is a market for hacked consoles. which means nothing when a game wants you to download a patched client every time you login. Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.



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